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What must happen for the Pacers to not choke away a home game for game 3. Is the third time a charm?

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    What must happen for the Pacers to not choke away a home game for game 3. Is the third time a charm?

    In no particular order.

    Domantas Sabonis can not be shut out of the game by the Boston Big men. He has been completely and totally eliminated as any type of force on offense and he never was the best defender on the planet. Simply put he has to impose his will on them. He has to figure out a way to get some offense going. Hitting some mid range jumpers would probably change the entire complexion of this series, however he goes through spells (like every pacer) where he can't hit water from a boat. But barring becoming an offensive force he absolutely must dominate on the boards. 5 rebounds will not cut it. 10 rebounds or bust. Now a lot of this is because Al Horford is really and truly a great defender, however most of this is because Brad Stevens has crafted a defense designed to eliminate Domas left side. It can't matter, he has to work through it or we won't win a single game.

    Darren Collison has to be an active ball mover. Right now it seems to me that whenever either he or Joseph get the ball the ball stops moving and we end up with either of them trying to go one on one with whoever switches to them like they were Allen Iverson. Neither are Allen Iverson so they need to keep the ball and thus the offense flowing. I don't blame him for defending Irving on defense. He's just so damn good at hitting shots that I don't know if anyone can guard him.

    Myles Turner, for the love of God just be active on the offensive end. I don't know if its Nate or if it's Myles or whatever but there are just times on offense you don't even know he's there. I really would like to see him start roaming down low a little more not so much for post up moves that he doesn't have but for offensive rebounds that he never gets. I need to go back and look at the games but has anyone really spread the floor with him? In other words is he really drawing defenders out there or not? I don't think he is but I can't honestly say I've paid close attention to it. I think I will tonight. Also I know it's a dead horse but I'll beat it again. He has to rebound. 3 rebounds from a center that played 30+ min is not only unacceptable it embarrassing.

    Tyreke Evans needs to just have a repeat of last game. Honestly that is about as good as you can expect from him and if everybody or anybody else for that matter played that well we might have snuck out with a win.

    Thad Young has to rebound. We are getting killed on the glass and a lot of it is because our front court combined may be the worst rebounding starting trio in the NBA, I don't know if that's true or not but it sure feels like it. 8 Board minimum and I want to never see a Thad Young iso post move again.

    Bogey has a hard road ahead because if we are going to win he will have to put up north of 25 points I would guess and not only that but he has to do it efficiently. I know its not his game but also grabbing more than 2 rebounds might not hurt the cause either.

    McDermott has to hit 3 of 5 from three point land and give you a couple of drives with a potential and one. If not then honestly he shouldn't play.

    As to Nate and coaching.

    Well once again are we just going to trot out the same rotations and still use the same exact cookie cutter rotations that are on an egg timer or are we going to change up? My guess is like old faithful we will do the same thing over and over. I give him the benefit of the doubt in that several key players are under performing (Sabonis, Turner, Bogey, etc) but Stevens has switched up his game plan for us and Nate hasn't changed a thing other than we now switch on defense. Same rotations same egg timer substitutions.

    Okay I'm going to go wild and make a bold guess about tonight. If for some reason we can pull this off it is because one of our backups that is rarely used is going to come in and do some surprising work. So tonight's bold guess is that T.J. Leaf will come in and drop 10 points and grab 7 rebounds.


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    Originally posted by Peck View Post

    Okay I'm going to go wild and make a bold guess about tonight. If for some reason we can pull this off it is because one of our backups that is rarely used is going to come in and do some surprising work. So tonight's bold guess is that T.J. Leaf will come in and drop 10 points and grab 7 rebounds.
    It's gonna take foul trouble for Nate to even put him in the game. And then those 10/7 will have to come in one half, because for some stupid reason Nate won't use him the other half of the game. I thought we'd lose the egg timer stuff when Vogel was sent packing but I was dead wrong.
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      Regular season we generated most of our half court offense from pick & roll/pop with Sabo or Myles from the top of the key. In the first two games, Horford has guarded this perfectly and the more we go to it, the more time we lose on the shot clock. It’s proba our best play all season, so hard to change now. We at least need to get Wes and Bojan running off screens off ball while we are trying to get Myles midrange going.

      Defense: Collison and Joseph need to guard Kyrie like he’s Steph. Force him into the paint against Turner.
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      • #4
        Here's what must happen, in addition to what Peck said:
        1.) Play Holiday in the 2nd half
        2.) Refrain from any attempt to run the offense through Thad, like ever.
        3.) Fix the problem where the defenders kept losing track of guys leading to open dunks.
        4.) Never stop moving on offense.
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        • #5
          I'd suggest these things:

          #1 - Make open shots, including FTs
          #2 - Myles and Domas have to contribute a lot more scoring
          #3 - DC and Tyreke must have good offensive games
          #4 - Ball and player movement on offense
          #5 - McDermott has to give us something worthwhile
          #5 - Holiday should see decent minutes in both halves

          My take has been a 5 - game Boston series victory since the beginning. This is our most likely one win. We'll have the crowd/homecourt energy and the revenge factor for two frustrating losses working in our favor. If we don't get this one. game four to stay alive versus a Celts sweep is a dicey proposition.
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          • #6
            Just don't go into huge scoring droughts. It's that simple.

            The Celtics are scoring, but they are exploding and killing the Pacers. They are averaging between 20 to 30 Points a game. This tells me that the Pacers pace and defense are adequate and could keep up with the Celtics IF THEY DON'T shoot like crap.
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            • #7
              Well its all over but the shouting at this point. But let's look and see what we did here.

              Domantas Sabonis can not be shut out of the game by the Boston Big men. He has been completely and totally eliminated as any type of force on offense and he never was the best defender on the planet. Simply put he has to impose his will on them. He has to figure out a way to get some offense going. Hitting some mid range jumpers would probably change the entire complexion of this series, however he goes through spells (like every pacer) where he can't hit water from a boat. But barring becoming an offensive force he absolutely must dominate on the boards. 5 rebounds will not cut it. 10 rebounds or bust. Now a lot of this is because Al Horford is really and truly a great defender, however most of this is because Brad Stevens has crafted a defense designed to eliminate Domas left side. It can't matter, he has to work through it or we won't win a single game.
              Seven rebounds with 12 points on 30% shooting is not going to get it done. He played better than the first two games but overall? Nope. I love Domas don't get me wrong but I saw someone in the game thread said Domas for Jalyen Brown and I would do it in a heartbeat. The sad new is that the Celtics would just laugh at you if you offered that. Not sure what to do here or what to tell him to work on, he simply has been missing and has been missing for most part of the second half of the season open 12-16' jump shots. He was just okay on the boards, seven is not enough to be blunt but its better than three I guess.

              Darren Collison has to be an active ball mover. Right now it seems to me that whenever either he or Joseph get the ball the ball stops moving and we end up with either of them trying to go one on one with whoever switches to them like they were Allen Iverson. Neither are Allen Iverson so they need to keep the ball and thus the offense flowing. I don't blame him for defending Irving on defense. He's just so damn good at hitting shots that I don't know if anyone can guard him.
              10 points and 3 assist from your starting point guard. As a comparison Boston's backup had 9 points and 2 assists and played about 10 less minutes. That stupid foul of Rozier while shooting a three was really a momentum killer for us. We had just trapped Kyrie and forced him into a crappy cross court pass and Rozier was not set when he took it so I don't think he would have made it but it was a moot point as Collison jumps into him for the foul. He also over dribbled a lot again.

              Myles Turner, for the love of God just be active on the offensive end. I don't know if its Nate or if it's Myles or whatever but there are just times on offense you don't even know he's there. I really would like to see him start roaming down low a little more not so much for post up moves that he doesn't have but for offensive rebounds that he never gets. I need to go back and look at the games but has anyone really spread the floor with him? In other words is he really drawing defenders out there or not? I don't think he is but I can't honestly say I've paid close attention to it. I think I will tonight. Also I know it's a dead horse but I'll beat it again. He has to rebound. 3 rebounds from a center that played 30+ min is not only unacceptable it embarrassing.
              13 points and seven rebounds. Sad to say but this may have been his best game of the series so far. He was active on offense for a change and actually drew a couple of fouls. Once again demonstrating Stevens coaching IQ he has neutralized Myles shot blocking ability. Other than the third quarter of game two it hasn't even been an issue at all.

              Tyreke Evans needs to just have a repeat of last game. Honestly that is about as good as you can expect from him and if everybody or anybody else for that matter played that well we might have snuck out with a win.
              Let these words soak in and scare the living crap out of you. Tyreke Evans has been the best and most consistent player in these playoffs for the Pacers. Now to his credit he has been decent but that should tell you the level of craptitude that our team is playing with.

              Thad Young has to rebound. We are getting killed on the glass and a lot of it is because our front court combined may be the worst rebounding starting trio in the NBA, I don't know if that's true or not but it sure feels like it. 8 Board minimum and I want to never see a Thad Young iso post move again.
              Have you ever seen a layup in your life like the one he threw up in the 4th quarter? Sending Thad to the free throw line is like giving the Gleen Gary leads to losers, your just throwing it away. I'm not going to lie. I'm tired of watching Thad Young play. He's a good player but in all honesty good is the enemy of great here. Nate treats him like he is LeBron James and overplays him. We don't really have a great alternative per se but its time to find one.

              Bogey has a hard road ahead because if we are going to win he will have to put up north of 25 points I would guess and not only that but he has to do it efficiently. I know its not his game but also grabbing more than 2 rebounds might not hurt the cause either.
              Yip, they have him bottled up and he isn't helping any by shooting 25% from behind the arc for the game with several of them being wide open. I know we have to re-sign him but man I just hope we do not over pay to much because there has been a lot of me wondering all season long if we aren't getting contract year production from him. I don't fault him because Boston has obviously made it a point to shut him down but I just wonder how good of a second player he is going to be now that he is 30.

              McDermott has to hit 3 of 5 from three point land and give you a couple of drives with a potential and one. If not then honestly he shouldn't play.
              Clown Shoes. At least Nate had the decency to not let him play a minute in the second half.

              As to Nate and coaching.

              Well once again are we just going to trot out the same rotations and still use the same exact cookie cutter rotations that are on an egg timer or are we going to change up? My guess is like old faithful we will do the same thing over and over. I give him the benefit of the doubt in that several key players are under performing (Sabonis, Turner, Bogey, etc) but Stevens has switched up his game plan for us and Nate hasn't changed a thing other than we now switch on defense. Same rotations same egg timer substitutions.
              I completely forgot that we got swept Nate's first year here. I guess I have blissfully put that out of my mind. But if we get swept out on Sunday, and all indications are we will, then that means 2 of the 3 years we were swept out in the first round. Almost any other team that would not give you job security but this is the Pacers and well I think we can expect to see Nate back for at least another 2-3 years. He did throw in a couple of new wrinkles tonight by playing Evans, Matthews & Joseph together and it really worked as well. But beyond that? Basically the egg timer was cooking. But to his credit he did take McDermott out of the second half rotation.

              Okay I'm going to go wild and make a bold guess about tonight. If for some reason we can pull this off it is because one of our backups that is rarely used is going to come in and do some surprising work. So tonight's bold guess is that T.J. Leaf will come in and drop 10 points and grab 7 rebounds.
              More valuable playoff experience for the young players as they sat on the bench watching. I just do not see what Wes matthews brings to the table that Aaron Holiday does not. Also Doug McDermott should be in street clothes while Edmond Sumners and Aaron Holiday split whatever time he has on the floor.


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              • #8
                Last night shows blame on Nate is the absolute lowest on the totem pole.

                Nate used completely different lineups. Was extremely quick to call timeouts. Went small. The fact is you can’t just get creative when you have roster that w/o Dipo doesn’t offer much flexibility. The idea that playing Holiday or Sumner more is somehow a worthy option is ridiculous. I like Holiday, but for any buckets he might create or get he’s giving it up on the other end or even on the offensive end as he leads the point guards in turnovers per 36.

                I get it. People want the coach to eek out everything he can, but what can he do? Nate can’t shoot open shots and free throws in Game 1. Nate can’t inbound the ball or make bogey kick out instead of getting blocked game 2. The chance last night was to start the 3rd when the Celtics went on a fraught and Pacers missed open 3 after open 3. Freaking Thad, perhaps our best players missed free throws and a layup. I mean, the coaching gave the players a chance to beat a far more talented team every game!

                The fact is, even with Dipo, this a regular season roster. Who are the scorers? Sabonis is the second leading scorer with Dipo out! And as much as I love him, there is nothing that screams regular season player like only being able to go left. He’s like Zoolander spinning around out there trying to find a way to get to his spots the only predictable way he knows how.

                Bottom line, the talent is not there. And really even with a healthy Dipo this roster is very much a regular season roster that wouldn’t have been a lock to get out of the first round. And that’s fine! The plan was to build around Dipo selling the success of this season to free agents. The injury and early exit complicates that plan, but they tried to stay the coarse with Wes. It just didn’t work out, but I can’t understand how any of that is on Nate. You can only do so much with a team of predictable scorers and very little in shot creation.
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                • #9
                  A minor point about young players and playoff experience. Simply throwing a guy out there during the playoffs is not always beneficial. If a guy isn’t ready the experience could have adverse effects.

                  Also, I’m pretty sure Wes was the leading scorer for Pacers in the 4th.

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                  • #10
                    Nate doesn't have much to work with and he's not been bad. But I do not like how he uses Collison and Myles Turner

                    He should have Myles Turner setting up outside the 3 point line at all times. That way, he stretches the floor (keeping a big out of the paint). This opens up the middle for good post players like Thad and the PnR for Sabonis. Also, Myles isn't an effective offensive rebounder and he's not powering to the rim. If he's outside the arc especially at the top of the key he's going to get back on D more easily.

                    Darren Collison is our 2nd best 3 point shooter and he's only had 5 attempts in the post season. With the exception of Bojan, Nate isn't focused on getting his best shooters open for 3's.

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                    • #11
                      Here’s the thing about Myles and 3s, he scared to shoot it! He was 1-5 last night on wide open 3s. He’s 25% for the series. He passed up a 3 in game 2 before Wes heaved that prayer.
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                      • #12
                        In the playoffs you won't win if you don't have at least one guy who can just go get you a bucket when you really need it.

                        And we don't right now.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Doug View Post
                          In the playoffs you won't win if you don't have at least one guy who can just go get you a bucket when you really need it.

                          And we don't right now.
                          And to piggyback on this, even lower seeded teams have this. Lou Will, Terrance Ross. We literally do not have a guy that can consistently get buckets off the dribble.

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                          • #14
                            Pacers made the playoffs last year and everyone said Dipo needs help scoring. The Pacers fix for that was Tyreke who literallly has the worst fg % at the rim in the league! I supported the move, but it has be accepted that even with a healthy Dipo this team would have had issues making a deep playoff run,

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by freddielewis14 View Post
                              Here’s the thing about Myles and 3s, he scared to shoot it! He was 1-5 last night on wide open 3s. He’s 25% for the series. He passed up a 3 in game 2 before Wes heaved that prayer.
                              Yeah Myles and Domas have been disappointingly ineffective this series. They're still developing, but this is Myles's 4th series and it's been his worst one overall. Seems he should be showing signs of coming into his own in the postseason about now. And, again, the 3 pointer is supposed to be his calling card offensively, and he continues to be unreliable when we most need scoring. His confidence from downtown looks defeated, which is concerning. Where's the mental toughness?
                              I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

                              -Emiliano Zapata

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