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McMillan to Oladipo: You Don't Have to Do it All

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  • McMillan to Oladipo: You Don't Have to Do it All

    The Pacers are amid a rare four-day break in the schedule, with the opportunity for three consecutive days of practice in advance of Friday's game against Miami.

    They have plenty to of things to practice, to say the least.

    They rank 28th in the NBA in rebounding, pace, and free throw percentage, all vital elements of winning and all points of emphasis in Tuesday's workout at St. Vincent Center. The greatest issue, though, the one that nearly overwhelms all others, explains some of the individual deficiencies and most succinctly relates to game performance is shot distribution.

    Victor Oladipo, their lone All-Star, averages more than twice as many shots per game (20) as any of his teammates. Consider that Oladipo also has the worst shooting percentage (.450) among the starters, and second-worst among all the rotation players, and the reason behind the Pacers' offensive inconsistency becomes obvious, despite coach Nate McMillan's calls for more pace and ball movement.

    "We haven't had a good rhythm or continuity together," Darren Collison said.

    Which is why McMillan broached the subject with Oladipo before Tuesday's practice.

    The disparity of the Pacers' current shot distribution would be historic if allowed to carry out through the rest of the season. No team in franchise history has had one player dominate the offense to the current degree. The closest would be the 1974-75 team on which George McGinnis, the clear star of a rebuilt team and the co-Most Valuable Player of the ABA, 1,934 shots that season (24.5 per game), but Kevin Joyce (curiously) took 1,245 and rookie Billy Knight took 1,087.

    Even the Los Angeles Lakers' 2009 championship team, one that was led by a singular player as much as any in league history, had better balance. Kobe Bryant averaged 20.9 shots that season, while Pau Gasol averaged 12.9.

    The catch here is that nobody on the team is accusing Oladipo of being selfish.

    Oladipo brought up his usage rate, which measures how often he has the ball in the offense, to President of Basketball Operations Kevin Pritchard in their first meeting following the trade with Oklahoma City two summers ago. He's also athletic and ambitious, and has clearly stated his desire to become a great player.

    That doesn't mean he has to dominate the offense, however. Cory Joseph, remember, stated, "there isn't a selfish soul on this team" following last week's homecourt loss to Philadelphia in which Oladipo attempted 30 shots, and none of the other Pacers has uttered a complaint about Oladipo's shot selection. Instead, they speak of a need for better ball movement.

    Oladipo, meanwhile, isn't calling for more shots, or even as many as he's getting.

    "We have to find better ways to attack," he said on Tuesday.



    The best way for the Pacers to attack has been to contain Oladipo's shot attempts, as the following breakdown clearly indicates. Dating back to the start of last season when his Pacers career began:
    • They are 24-3 when he takes 15 or fewer shots. In those games, he has shot 58 percent from the field and averaged 19.7 points per game.
    • They are 22-12 when he takes between 16-20 shots. In those games, he shot 46 percent.
    • They are 10-18 when he takes 21 or more shots. In those games, he shot 42 percent.

    The Pacers are 3-0 this season when Oladipo has taken 15 or fewer shots, with the victories coming over Memphis, San Antonio, and Cleveland. It's highly unlikely they would continue to win 24 of every 27 games if he did so the rest of the season, but they likely would win far more frequently than while compiling their current 8-6 record.

    Is the burden on Oladipo to shoot less, or on his teammates to get open for good shots?

    "It's both," McMillan said. "We talk about execution, and execution is working to get a good shot. It is on Victor...when he feels he has a good shot, we want him to take that - but also create opportunities for other guys when that defense is committed to him. Part of this process of establishing our style is trusting each other; recognizing a matchup and trying to take advantage of that and get those guys the ball.

    "When you're a young team and one guy is taking 30 shot attempts, all it takes is one guy to start thinking (you're selfish). That's not him. I know that's not him. I also know what he's trying to do. But if we continue to play the game the right way and play together, the results will come. We might lose this one. We might lose the next one. But eventually you're starting to win."

    McMillan's conversation with Oladipo Tuesday morning focused on one word: efficiency. He wants Oladipo to focus on taking good shots within the flow of the offense and utilize his athleticism to create easy shots for teammates.

    Oladipo has an ability to take over a game offensively, as he did after the Pacers fell behind 13-2 to Philadelphia last Wednesday. He brought them back to a five-point lead in the second quarter and a tie at halftime, with an outstanding individual performance. But that approach was unsustainable. He missed seven of his final eight shots and the Pacers faltered down the stretch in a six-point defeat.

    Sunday's loss at Houston followed a similar dynamic. The Pacers fought back from an early 12-point deficit to lead 28-26, but didn't finish well. Over the final 6 1/2 minutes of the fourth quarter he hit just 1-of-5 shots and committed a turnover, an uncharacteristic finish for one of the league's better clutch players. He wound up taking 24 shots, hitting seven. Bogdanovic had the second-most shot attempts, 11, and hit six.

    It wasn't efficient. Nor was it necessary, as McMillan told Oladipo Tuesday morning.

    "You don't have to do it," he said. "It looks bad on you. You continue to play the game the right way and trust your teammates. Don't put that on you, that you have to do something. You don't. Taking 30 shots is not (what will win games). That's going to make you look bad.

    "I know what you're trying to do, but that's not what works."

    What works has been proven. When Oladipo limits his shot production, the offense flows like a river and the Pacers are practically unbeatable. When he shoots a lot, the offense becomes a stagnant pond and the Pacers are a losing team. But the responsibility for making the offense work, just like the ball, has to be shared.

    "He's trying to get us involved; we have to take it upon ourselves to be more aggressive, too," Collison said. "With the shot disparity, you don't want him to have that early in the season. He'll wear down. Everybody has to take it upon themselves to help him out. And he'll do a better job distributing as well."
    The Pacers are amid a rare four-day break in the schedule, with the opportunity for three consecutive days of practice in advance of Friday's game against Miami. They have plenty to of things to practice, to say the least.
    Sittin on top of the world!

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    Me to McMillan: Stop trying to match up with opponents. Make them match up with you. Play the twin towers

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    • #3
      Yes, if we want to do anything other than just make the playoffs then Vic IS going to have to do it all, and more. Until this organization prioritizes building a superior talented team with a legit 2nd option and more overall talent instead of settling for bargain bin balanced teams, he is going to have to do it all. Him and Sabo.

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      • #4
        From nba.com and the Indystar......"According to NBA.com, the Pacers are dead last in the league in 3-point attempts taken that are considered open (4-6 feet of space between shooter and defender), and 24th in the league 3s taken that are considered wide open (6-plus feet of space). " https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ce/1989897002/
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        • #5
          I think the Pacers are not practicing to take those open threes.
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          • #6
            They should have Myles out beyond the arc launching 3's and Domas in the paint dunking on people. I don't get the coaching. Myles was supposed to be the "modern 5" able to shoot darts from 20+ feet. What happened to that? I think he is coordinated enough to be a catch and shoot guy. Not so much a play maker, PickNRoll, etc.

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            • #7
              This really needs to be approached gingerly. The last thing I want to see is Dipo become hesitant.
              #LanceEffect

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              • #8
                In my opinion, our offense changed after that Cavs game.

                This is what I see us doing offensively this season: Oladipo is not aggressive at all to start the game. He is deferring to the rest of the team as we're trying to get everyone else into a rhythm. If it works then great. Everyone is on a rhythm and with a rested Dipo coming into the second half we have a very high chance of winning the game. In such a case, Dipo is quite likely to not take a lot of shots since those games are blowouts (it's not a surprise that he mentioned the Memphis, SA and Cleveland games which were all blowouts). He doesn't have to carry a heavy offensive load when we're already winning by a lot.

                But what happens when this doesn't work? Well, that's what we have been witnessing ever since the Portland game. We get into big deficits and Dipo has to press to bring us back in the game. We usually do succeed to come back into the game but we cannot always get over the hump.

                At this point, I'd like to direct your attention at Dipo's shooting splits. I think that they can shed some light into this situation. This are this year's shooting splits -> https://stats.nba.com/player/203506/...n&Split=ingame

                As you can see, Dipo is indeed shooting more in the second half than he does in the first. But the difference isn't that big. He takes 9.2 shots in the first half and 10.8 shots in the second half. If we look at the per quarter splits, we'll see that he takes 4.5 shots in the first quarter, 4.7 in the second quarter, 5.4 in the third quarter and 5.4 in the fourth quarter.

                But let's check those last 8 games -> https://stats.nba.com/player/203506/...e&LastNGames=8

                Dipo's shots in the first half are about the same. 9.3 per game.But in the second half there's a significant spike. He goes from 10.8 (for the season) to 12.8 shots. That's a pretty big uptick. If we look at the per quarter splits that's the picture we get: 4.9 shots in the first, 4.4 in the second, 5.3 in the third, 7.5 in the fourth.

                What's the reason for this spike in second half and especially 4th quarter shots? It's quite simple. Those games weren't blowouts in our favor. We were either losing or the score was close.

                We were down 2 points against the Blazers when the 4th quarter started (71-69). Down 6 when Vic returned to the game (77-71).

                We were down 4 points against the Knicks when the 4th quarter started (77-81). Up 2 when Vic returned to the game (87-85).

                We were up 7 points against the Bulls when the 4th quarter started (87-80). Up 2 when Vic returned to the game (92-90).

                We were tied up with the Celtics when the 4th quarter started (72-72). Up 3 when Vic returned to the game (84-87).

                We were down 1 point against the Rockets in BLF when the 4th quarter started (71-72). Up 4 when Vic returned to the game (75-79).

                We were down 7 points against the Sixers when the 4th quarter started (78-71). Down 11 when Vic returned to the game (84-73).

                We were up 4 points against the Heat when the 4th quarter started (84-80). Up 2 when Vic returned to the game (86-84).

                We were down 21 points against the Rockets when the 4th quarter started (81-102). Down 17 when Vic returned to the game (87-104).

                I do agree that Dipo sometimes tries to do too much on his own. But he only does it when the team really, really needs him. He is our best player. He is probably the only player we have that can take over a game on his own on the offensive end. So, when the game is close or when we're down big and we need to score points quickly to come back to the game then yes, we'll rely on Dipo. It's the natural thing to do. The only thing I don't like in these situations is that sometimes he settles too much for the pull-up long 2. But he hasn't done that in the last few games so I'm cool with it.

                I'm way more concerned about our offense as a whole than I am about Dipo. The way our offense has stalled and the complete lack of player movement off the ball is very concerning. I do believe that this team has enough talent to make a deep playoff run (6-7 games in the second round, to be precise). But to do that we need to play to our strengths and we're not doing it right now.

                We have a very fast backcourt. We need to run. Instead, we're playing at one of the slowest Paces in the league.

                We have shooters but we don't have plays to get them open. It's very telling that Domas does a much better job at getting Doug open looks (especially when he's passing out of the post) than our set offense does.

                We could also punish teams inside with Domas even more if we played him alongside Myles but we don't do that a lot either.

                The point I'm trying to make is this. We have talent. We have weapons. We're just not using them correctly.

                Originally posted by IrishPacer
                Empty vessels make the most noise.

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                • #9
                  I think three things are happening. The player and ball movement is less than last year. The Pacers are passing up open shots at the three more than anyone else in the league.
                  And number three the ball pressure by the team seems reduced as the deflections which lead to easy offense is down.
                  I suppose a 4th could be not using the players in their best position but other than Myles are do not have a lot of complaints
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                  • #10
                    In Oladipo's defense, other other than Sabonis, the rest of the team is playing like ****

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                    • #11
                      I swear they are reading my mind (or my posts)... I just talked about those Dipo stats yesterday in the post game thread. One guy taking all of the shots absolutely takes the rest of team out of the offensive rhythm and focus. Of course the other teammates are going to look bad to you guys. While casual fans solely blame turner and tyreke, at least some of the calmer heads see the bigger picture and know what's really going on...

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                      • #12
                        #1 Top priority: More ball & player movement

                        Also important: More open 3s out of #1, please look to run more (at least situationally), find a way to get a legit #2 offensive option, move Thad to the bench unless he picks up his play drastically, get Tyreke to at least look interested out there
                        I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

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                        • #13
                          I counter this by saying in so many of the games where Vic has begun passive, the Pacers have gotten destroyed early. Then he becomes over aggressive to get the team back in the game.

                          It's fine to say he needs to share the ball, but other people have to start making plays and we need to be more creative in our play calling that doesn't feature Vic because so far if it's the starters and it's play where Vic is not involved, it's a Bojan iso on the perimeter, a Thad iso in the post or a DC pick and roll that usually ends in a mid range jumper.


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                          • #14
                            Last years team was so fun to watch because players moved and shared the ball. It rarely happens this year. What is going on? Coaching? Players not getting along?
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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
                              I counter this by saying in so many of the games where Vic has begun passive, the Pacers have gotten destroyed early. Then he becomes over aggressive to get the team back in the game.

                              It's fine to say he needs to share the ball, but other people have to start making plays and we need to be more creative in our play calling that doesn't feature Vic because so far if it's the starters and it's play where Vic is not involved, it's a Bojan iso on the perimeter, a Thad iso in the post or a DC pick and roll that usually ends in a mid range jumper.
                              I think the point is that Victor should be looking to be a bit more of a playmaker for his teammates and make the game a bit easier for them.offensively.

                              His shot selection has been iffy in a few games imo. It’s a testament to his talent that he’s able to convert at a decent percentage a lot of the time. (Though he’s been struggling to be efficient the last 8 games or so)

                              At the same time, Victor is at his best when aggressively causing defenses to collapse in the paint. None of us want to see him being less aggressive, just tone down on the unnecessary tough shot attempts when an extra pass can be made.

                              I kind of like Nate challenging Vic, as I’m sure he will respond with what the coach wants to see. Hopefully it translates to better offensive production from the team as a whole.

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