Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

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  • Gamble1
    Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 7257

    #91
    Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

    I would of preferred Corey Joseph but this will do for one year and he is tradeable with that cap number so not a bad signing.

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    • CableKC
      Member
      • Mar 2005
      • 36689

      #92
      Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

      The only thing that I can say that may show a "light at the end of the tunnel" is that DC put up very efficient #s in the last 3 seasons as the Kings Starting PG:

      Last 3 seasons:

      MPG - 30 mpg
      FG% - Above 47.3% averaging 10 FGA per game
      3pt% - 37% first Season and 40+% last 2 seasons on 3+ APG
      APG - 4.3 assists per game
      ToPG - 1.7 to 2.5 turnovers per game
      PPG - 13 to 16 ppg over the last 3 seasons
      FT% - 80% on 2.5 to 4 FTA per game

      Statistically, this is pretty good for a Starting PG playing that many minutes. Sure, that's on a crappy Kings Team....but honestly, we are not that far off now.

      Find me a Starting PG that can put up those type of Numbers. He's not a high volume scorer and ( on the surface ) appears to be an efficient/effective one when given the chance.
      Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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      • I Love P
        Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 4065

        #93
        Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

        Originally posted by CableKC
        For those wondering if we are going to re-tool or re-build....the answer is clear. We are re-tooling.

        The problem is that this move is a mediocre Re-tooling move AT BEST since it doesn't ( as cdash often posts ) "move the needle".

        What's next?

        My guess is that the reason we didn't pursue any FAs that could be signed up for up to $22 mil is because we are keeping the Cap Hold to re-sign CJ Miles. It wouldn't surprise me if we end up seeing that CJ Miles is re-signed as our Starting SF or a key rotational Player for the next 4 seasons at $13+ mil a year.

        I assume we can let Brooks go to clear his Cap Space....so we'd have about $2.5 mil in Cap Space with CJ's Cap hold?

        Eff me.....
        People wondered if they were retooling or rebuilding? Did you not hear KP's press conference 1.5 months ago or whenever it was? When was the last time this team rebuilt? It's always a retool & hope to get lucky @ pick 10-16.

        This team is destined for the 9th seed.

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        • 3rdStrike
          Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 1903

          #94
          Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

          So with this Joe Young and Monta have to go. I mean they have to go regardless, but now you can at least know that you have the point guard duties covered if you strike out with whatever trades/free agent discussions you're having.

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          • BobbyMac
            Most optimistic member!
            • Aug 2006
            • 3565

            #95
            Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

            As usual I'll wait til about 1/3 of the season to opine on the team. Last year I thought, like Slick, that the team would win 50+ and changed my mind after about 30 games. Hope this team is better. Time will tell.
            Go Pacers!

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            • Nuntius
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 35969

              #96
              Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

              I loved DC when he was here. I always thought that he was underrated (most of our PGs tend to be underrated). So, I'm glad to have him back on the team. The contract seems ok as well. 10 million is bench player money under the new CBA.

              That said, I don't really see the reasoning behind this move. I thought that the intention was to go young and rebuild around a young core. DC doesn't really fit that but I guess that he can be a good veteran influence to have in the locker room. We really have to find a trade for Monta and Thad, though.
              Originally posted by IrishPacer
              Empty vessels make the most noise.

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              • iogyhufi
                Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 370

                #97
                Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                Originally posted by Nuntius
                I loved DC when he was here. I always thought that he was underrated (most of our PGs tend to be underrated). So, I'm glad to have him back on the team. The contract seems ok as well. 10 million is bench player money under the new CBA.

                That said, I don't really see the reasoning behind this move. I thought that the intention was to go young and rebuild around a young core. DC doesn't really fit that but I guess that he can be a good veteran influence to have in the locker room. We really have to find a trade for Monta and Thad, though.
                Yeah, if this means Monta's on the way out, I'll be much happier. Free up the young guys this year and see what we have. I trust DC to take a back seat more than I trust Monta to do so.

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                • kent beckley
                  Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 5029

                  #98
                  Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                  Originally posted by Foul on Smits
                  This team is starting to lose me. It really is. I already didnt think their was any hope of competing in the NBA, but then this signing? I just cant do this.
                  I thought we already lost you? Weren't you done after the trade?

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                  • LA_Confidential
                    The Nite Owl
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1821

                    #99
                    Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                    Welcome back DC. He's a solid point guard who will be able to play good basketball off the bench and in spot duty in case of injury. The money isn't bad for a player like him.

                    Lance is our starting point guard IMO until I see a no brainer move that proves he isn't. Adding DC changes nothing except the fact that we may have gotten lucky enough to dump Monta on someone.

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                    • crunk-juice
                      Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 1731

                      Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                      On the surface I'm fine with it. I just have no clue what the hell Pritchards plan is at the moment.

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                      • McKeyFan
                        Intuition over Integers
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 15104

                        Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                        Not a big DC fan. Bad court vision. Mediocre to bad defender.

                        But he'd be okay coming off the bench. We need a scorer off the bench. He can score. And he can create his own shot. I don't love it, but I don't totally hate it if he's in the second unit.
                        "Look, it's up to me to put a team around ... Lance right now." —Kevin Pritchard press conference

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                        • Grimp
                          Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 12423

                          Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                          Originally posted by LA_Confidential
                          Welcome back DC. He's a solid point guard who will be able to play good basketball off the bench and in spot duty in case of injury. The money isn't bad for a player like him.

                          Lance is our starting point guard IMO until I see a no brainer move that proves he isn't. Adding DC changes nothing except the fact that we may have gotten lucky enough to dump Monta on someone.

                          Wouldn't be surprised if Monta got traded to the Knicks or Lakers. Teams trying to land Derrick Rose or George Hill are gonna come up short and go looking for cheap stop gappers.

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                          • jrwannabe
                            Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 5077

                            Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                            Originally posted by Deadshot
                            Also on the Pacers radar right now:

                            Britton Johnsen
                            Luther Head
                            Magnum Rolle
                            Rawle Marshall
                            Loved Rawle. Too bad he couldn't put the pot down.

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                            • cdash
                              Whale Shepherd
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 32259

                              Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                              Originally posted by LA_Confidential
                              Welcome back DC. He's a solid point guard who will be able to play good basketball off the bench and in spot duty in case of injury. The money isn't bad for a player like him.

                              Lance is our starting point guard IMO until I see a no brainer move that proves he isn't. Adding DC changes nothing except the fact that we may have gotten lucky enough to dump Monta on someone.
                              I think DC starts over Lance.

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                              • Nuntius
                                Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 35969

                                Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                                Originally posted by iogyhufi
                                Yeah, if this means Monta's on the way out, I'll be much happier. Free up the young guys this year and see what we have. I trust DC to take a back seat more than I trust Monta to do so.
                                If we don't trade Monta then I have no idea what we're doing.
                                Originally posted by IrishPacer
                                Empty vessels make the most noise.

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