Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

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  • BlueNGold
    Banned
    • Aug 2005
    • 32249

    Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

    I am not a DC fan, but if this ensures that Joe Young never sees a minute, I'm in.

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    • vnzla81
      Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 68281

      Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

      Originally posted by Jose Slaughter
      To me it's not "forward thinking." I don't see anything remotely close to team building by bringing in this type of player on this type contract to be your starting point guard.

      If a signing is not helping the long term growth of the team then it's hurting it.

      This signing is clearly not a move to help move this team forward.
      This 100%
      @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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      • cdash
        Whale Shepherd
        • Jun 2009
        • 32259

        Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

        I think he will be a good fit next to Dipo.

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        • Pacergeek
          Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 9051

          Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

          Originally posted by crunk-juice
          There was nothing wrong with that trade and there's nothing wrong with Thad. The only reason to trade him now is because we clearly need to start building for the future. That wasn't the idea a year ago.
          Trade sucked. Plenty of good players were at 20. McCaw and Dejounte Murray for example. The dude the Nets drafted, Lavert, can also play
          Being unable to close out a game in which you have a comfortable lead in the 4th Q = Pulling a Frank Vogel

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          • BlueNGold
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            • Aug 2005
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            Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

            They are clearly going for quickness. I could see Lance moving to SF. It would be a tiny lineup though.

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            • diamonddave00
              Long time fan
              • Aug 2004
              • 1991

              Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

              Collison is an decent point guard and the 10 mil a year is only 1.5 mil above the minimum

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              • LA_Confidential
                The Nite Owl
                • Jul 2010
                • 1821

                Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                Originally posted by I Love P
                The 20th pick was our pick & we traded it for Thad Young...which is my least favorite move Larry ever made. I think I'd be able to name the player with 1 try without Google. Not to mention the player was drafted by Indiana & wore a Pacers cap. I think several fans would be able to name him.
                Honestly, at this point, I still wouldn't believe you because I have no proof that you didn't google it before you replied to me. Oh well.

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                • cdash
                  Whale Shepherd
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 32259

                  Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                  Originally posted by Pacergeek
                  Trade sucked. Plenty of good players were at 20. McCaw and Dejounte Murray for example. The dude the Nets drafted, Lavert, can also play
                  Only in hindsight. I want you guys who all of a sudden hate that trade to bump the draft thread when it happened. Bet you guys loved it then.

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                  • Grimp
                    Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 12423

                    Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                    Originally posted by diamonddave00
                    Collison is an decent point guard and the 10 mil a year is only 1.5 mil above the minimum
                    Not to mention his salary does down in year 2. Half of the $10 mil if that much.

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                    • LA_Confidential
                      The Nite Owl
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1821

                      Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                      Under no circumstances should DC be our starting pg. We got hammered by the Cavs because Teague and Monta were too small and DC is even smaller.

                      Lance and VO is the way to go as our starting back court.

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                      • beast23
                        Member
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4842

                        Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                        Originally posted by Jose Slaughter
                        To me it's not "forward thinking." I don't see anything remotely close to team building by bringing in this type of player on this type contract to be your starting point guard.

                        If a signing is not helping the long term growth of the team then it's hurting it.

                        This signing is clearly not a move to help move this team forward.
                        I'm not sure. Let's look at the salaries on the books beyond the 2018-2019 season. There is VO, the renovated salary for Turner, then very little else of much consequence. Is it possible that we think we can attract multiple decent free agents by being the team with most cap space to accommodate their desire for playing together. After all, that is the new personnel model that has been established in the league.

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                        • cdash
                          Whale Shepherd
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 32259

                          Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                          Originally posted by LA_Confidential
                          Under no circumstances should DC be our starting pg. We got hammered by the Cavs because Teague and Monta were too small and DC is even smaller.

                          Lance and VO is the way to go as our starting back court.
                          They were also abusing Lance every chance they got.

                          It doesn't matter, though. We aren't trying to beat the Cavs. We probably aren't trying to beat anyone. Get good guys who work hard and fit well with the building blocks and go from there. Lance/Dipo backcourt is problematic. Plus Lance is the perfect 6th man.

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                          • Major Cold
                            Gone to Twitter. Done he
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 11491

                            Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                            Originally posted by Nuntius
                            No one's saying that DC is the future. It's just 20 million. That's bench player money under the current CBA.
                            Since the second year is partial it is basically a cheaper Rose and Reddick player. One year bet that doesn't hurt next offseason. Larry could never learn to do this.

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                            • Tom White
                              Member
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 5705

                              Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                              Originally posted by I Love P
                              20th pick for Thad might be Larry's worst trade he made here. That trade did not work out at all. Now we're trying to deal him.
                              Where are you hearing that they are trying to trade Thad? I'm gonna guess not from any reliable source. Just what someone on the forum (maybe you) suggested, and you're gonna run with it.

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                              • BlueNGold
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 32249

                                Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

                                Originally posted by cdash
                                They were also abusing Lance every chance they got.

                                It doesn't matter, though. We aren't trying to beat the Cavs. We probably aren't trying to beat anyone. Get good guys who work hard and fit well with the building blocks and go from there. Lance/Dipo backcourt is problematic. Plus Lance is the perfect 6th man.
                                Not like they were steam rolling the tiny guys. They dared Lance to shoot 3's and he just about hit 40%. Not sure when he's going to get love.

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