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IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

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  • IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

    I think I finally got it all set up at I tried to keep the number consistent last time and in trying to skip picks, the software got confused, forcing a reset. As long as the roster and order are accurate, we shouldn't have a problem. Thanks everyone for your infinite patience and understanding!

    Hi everyone!

    I still have one last 9-man roster that needs to get in, so I'm giving everyone one last chance to make adjustments to their protected lists before the final version is posted tomorrow.

    We will be drafting on right here is this draft thread. Any player that has been drafted by an NBA team, has played in an NBA game, is in a training camp or has signed an NBA contract is eligible to be drafted. You may not draft a protected player or a player who is not an NBA player (NO NCAA FRESHMEN).

    To balance the need for everyone to sort through their choices AND the need to move things along, we'll be starting the draft immediately after the protected list deadline - but don't worry - there will be no clock through the weekend. Starting Monday, we'll begin a 24-hour clock. That means that if an owner has stalled the draft for 24 hours, that person will be skipped until they return, at which point they can select from the remaining available players. As long as everyone is checking in to PD once a day or so, we should get through the draft in no time.

    If we aren't done before Sunday, October 17th at 12:00 noon eastern time, the draft clock will go to a 5-minute clock. So whatever draft picks are left will need to be tied up on Sunday the 17th. At the end of the draft on Sunday night, I will load up all rosters onto When that's done, I'll say "GO" - the season will begin and you can drop and add players directly on

    If you are going to be gone throughout the week, please don't hesitate to give me a contingency list of your top prospects. I'll be more than happy to announce your pick for you based on who is available on your list and keep things moving.

    In the mean time, here's the current draft order and a preliminary protected list. You have 24 hours to make changes before it gets locked in and the draft gets under way.

    Thanks everyone!


    - - - - -

    Latest draft chart:

    1 Viet Nam Pandas, Trader Joe - JOHN WALL
    2 Utrecht Lions, Mourning - EVAN TURNER
    3 Utrecht Lions, Mourning - DeMARCUS COUSINS
    4 Viet Nam Pandas, Trader Joe - TRADED TO DC DREAMERS - DERRICK FAVORS

    5 Tasmanian - WESLEY JOHNSON
    6 Bombay Banshee - JEFF TEAGUE
    7 Philadelphia Clown Babies - GREG MONROE
    8 Las Vegas Venom - TIAGO SPLITTER
    9 Nacogdoches Flying Pigs - TRADED TO DC DREAMERS - WESLEY MATTHEWS
    10 Riley Russian Blues - GREIVIS VASQUEZ
    11 Gobias Illusion - JORDAN CRAWFORD
    13 Indianapolis Magic Rats - PAUL GEORGE
    14 Groningen Geezers - AL-FAROUQ AMINU
    15 Hoopstown Hoopers - CHASE BUDINGER
    17 Funk Seoul Brothers - RODRIGUE BEAUBOIS
    18 Venice Vandals - TIMOFEY MOZGOV
    19 Red Angels - MIKE DUNLEAVY
    21 Anderson Packers
    22 Baltimore Bulldogs - TRADE TO GRONINGEN

    23 Tasmanian
    24 Bombay Banshee
    25 Philadelphia Clown Babies
    26 Las Vegas Venom
    27 Nacogdoches Flying Pigs
    28 Riley Russian Blues
    29 Gobias Illusion
    30 DC Dreamers
    31 Indianapolis Magic Rats
    32 Groningen Geezers
    33 Hoopstown Hoopers
    35 Funk Seoul Brothers
    36 Venice Vandals
    37 Red Angels
    38 Enfield Howling Fantods - TRADED TO RILEY RUSSIAN BLUES
    39 Anderson Packers
    40 Baltimore Bulldogs - TRADED TO GRONINGEN

    41 Tasmanian
    42 Bombay Banshee
    43 Philadelphia Clown Babies
    44 Las Vegas Venom
    45 Nacogdoches Flying Pigs
    46 Riley Russian Blues
    47 Gobias Illusion
    49 Indianapolis Magic Rats
    50 Groningen Geezers
    51 Hoopstown Hoopers
    52 Young Turks
    53 Funk Seoul Brothers
    54 Venice Vandals
    55 Red Angels
    56 Enfield Howling Fantods - TRADED TO UTRECHT
    57 Anderson Packers
    58 Baltimore Bulldogs - TRADED TO YOUNG TURKS
    59 Utrecht Lions, Mourning - TRADED TO ENFIELD
    60 Viet Nam Pandas, Trader Joe

    - - - - -
    PRELIMINARY PROTECTED LISTS - please review - (Released players are at the bottom)


    Ben Wallace
    Carlos Boozer
    Lamar Odom
    Kenyon Martin
    Andrei Kirilenko
    Andre Iguodala
    Baron Davis
    Mike Miller
    Brad Miller
    Spencer Hawes

    Venice / Los Angeles

    Kobe Bryant
    Jason Kidd
    Tony Parker
    Andrew Bogut
    Marcus Camby
    Amir Johnson
    Taj Gibson
    Nazr Mohammed
    Jordan Farmar


    Andrew Bynum
    Zach Randolph
    Anthony Randolph
    Tyreke Evans
    Jameer Nelson
    Brandon Roy
    Wilson Chandler
    J.J. Hickson
    Dorell Wright


    Al Horford
    LeBron James
    Joakim Noah
    Rudy Gay
    Shawn Marion
    Russell Westbrook
    Jamal Crawford
    Jason Terry
    Chris Duhon

    Scott_H / Skaut Ech

    Greg Oden
    Kevin Love
    Serge Ibaka
    JaVale McGee
    Jordan Hill
    Deron Williams
    J.R. Smith
    Jason Richardson
    Jrue Holiday


    Samuel Dalembert
    Roy Hibbert
    Dwight Howard
    David Lee
    Paul Pierce
    Richard Hamilton
    Ben Gordon
    Jarrett Jack
    Corey Brewer


    Brook Lopez
    Carl Landry
    Yi Jianlian
    Channing Frye
    Darren Collison
    Aaron Brooks
    Brandon Rush
    Hasheem Thabeet
    Ray Allen


    David West
    Danny Granger
    Gilbert Arenas
    Andrea Bargnani
    Shaquille Oneal
    Anderson Varejao
    Mo Williams
    Jonny Flynn
    Hedo Turkoglu

    newman8r / N8R

    Chris Bosh
    Tyrus Thomas
    Derrick Rose
    Nate Robinson
    Devin Harris
    Louis Williams
    Ersan Ilyasova
    Charlie Villanueva
    Ronny Turiaf


    Marc Gasol
    Elton Brand
    Hakim Warrick
    Joe Johnson
    Luol Deng
    Kevin Martin
    Stephen Curry
    Will Bynum
    Boris Diaw


    Chris Kaman
    Nene Hilario
    Chris Andersen
    DeJuan Blair
    Gerald Wallace
    Monta Ellis
    Rodney Stuckey
    Ty Lawson
    Austin Daye


    LaMarcus Aldridge
    Troy Murphy
    Josh Smith
    Corey Maggette
    Ryan Gomes
    Brandon Jennings
    Kyle Lowry
    Raymond Felton
    Mike Conley


    Dirk Nowitzki
    Jason Thompson
    Chauncey Billups
    Trevor Ariza
    James Harden
    Rudy Fernandez
    D.J. Augustin
    Tyler Hansbrough
    Tracy McGrady


    Andris Biedrins
    Al Jefferson
    Goran Dragic
    Rajon Rondo
    Andray Blatche
    Thaddeus Young
    Caron Butler
    Travis Outlaw
    James Posey

    avoidingclowns / avoidingtheclowns

    Chris Paul
    Andre Miller
    Eric Maynor
    Antawn Jamison
    Kendrick Perkins
    Jeff Green
    Omri Casspi
    Yao Ming
    Michael Redd

    jose slaughter / joseslaughter

    Amare Stoudemire
    Marreese Speights
    Emeka Okafor
    Michael Beasley
    Robin Lopez
    Blake Griffin
    Jerryd Bayless
    Ricky Rubio


    Carmelo Anthony
    Kevin Durant
    Manu Ginobili
    Kevin Garnett
    Al Harrington
    Stephen Jackson
    Vince Carter
    Brendan Haywood
    David Andersen


    Tim Duncan
    Pau Gasol
    Paul Millsap
    Dwyane Wade
    Jose Calderon
    Anthony Morrow
    Steve Nash
    Danilo Gallinari
    Marcin Gortat


    OJ Mayo
    Mehmet Okur
    J J Redick
    Kelenna Azubuike
    DeMar DeRozan
    Drew Gooden
    Luke Ridnour
    Ramon Sessions
    AJ Price


    Eric Gordon
    Terrence Williams
    Nicolas Batum
    Josh Howard
    John Salmons
    Marcus Thornton
    Ryan Anderson
    Jermaine O’Neal
    Luis Scola


    Chase Budinger
    DeAndre Jordan
    Jonas Jerebko
    Rasheed Wallace
    Juwan Howard
    Peja Stojakovic
    Marvin Williams
    Mike Bibby
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    Glen Davis
    Carlos Delfino
    Francisco Garcia
    Chris Douglas-Roberts
    Chuck Hayes
    Louis Amundson
    Randy Foye
    Kris Humphries
    Martell Webster
    Earl Watson
    Chris Wilcox
    Josh Boone
    Allen Iverson
    T.J. Ford
    Erick Dampier
    Kirk Hinrich
    Shane Battier
    Antonio McDyess
    Nenad Krstic
    Ron Artest
    Rashard Lewis
    Mike Dunleavy Jr.
    Richard Jefferson
    Udonis Haslem
    Grant Hill
    Craig Smith
    Leandro Barbosa
    Last edited by Los Angeles; 10-13-2010, 08:44 AM.
    “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill

    “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird

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    Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

    I've changed my mind on my dropped player. I want to keep Ray Allen and Drop Z. Of course that is no guarantee that Ray makes the cut down after the draft.


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      Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

      Originally posted by SycamoreKen View Post
      I've changed my mind on my dropped player. I want to keep Ray Allen and Drop Z. Of course that is no guarantee that Ray makes the cut down after the draft.
      Got it!
      “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill

      “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird


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        Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

        Lets get this thing GOING!!! Come on last person to submit stop being so slow.


        • #5
          Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

          Originally posted by N8R View Post
          Lets get this thing GOING!!! Come on last person to submit stop being so slow.
          2012 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion,

          2011 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion,

          2006 PD ABA Fantasy League runner up,


          • #6
            Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

            So do we have a time today, when we're actually planning to start this?


            • #7
              Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

              I have a request to load the protected rosters onto so that the available players can be sorted.

              Given that I'm on the job, it might take a while to do that - maybe into the evening. Would you guys like to wait until that's done, or do you want to get started right away?
              “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill

              “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird


              • #8
                Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

                Um, it doesn't matter to me. Whatever is easier, I already know who I'm taking number 1.


                • #9
                  Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

                  Well, the protected list deadline was midnight last night and the last issue (other than the request to load up teams on was the expansion teams' released players issue. That vote has been turned down by the league.

                  Ladies and gentlemen, the draft has begun. Good Luck to everyone!

                  Trader Joe, you're up.
                  “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill

                  “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird


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                    Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

                    With the number 1 pick in the 2010 IKL Draft, the Vietnam Pandas select, John Wall, G, Washington Wizards.

                    John is thrilled to get out of Washington after fearing for his life playing with Gilbert Arenas for the past month.

                    Our head coach, Tugg Speedman, is thrilled to have John on board. This was him receiving the news that Wall would be his new PG

                    Mr. Wall couldn't be reached for comment on the selection directly, but we're told his reaction was to bust out his classic dance in celebration
                    Last edited by Trader Joe; 10-09-2010, 04:25 PM.


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                      Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

                      Mourning you are up for two picks buddy.


                      • #12
                        Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

                        with the 2nd pick of the 2010 International Keeper League Draft the Utrecht Lions pick Evan Turner (GF, PHI).
                        2012 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion,

                        2011 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion,

                        2006 PD ABA Fantasy League runner up,


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                          • #14
                            Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

                            Not like mourning to drop the ball like that. Anyway, we have plenty of time.
                            “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill

                            “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird


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                              Re: IKL 2010 DRAFT THREAD - Here we go!

                              With the 3rd pick of the 2010 International Keeper League Draft the Utrecht Lions pick DeMarcus Cousins (C, SAC).
                              2012 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion,

                              2011 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion,

                              2006 PD ABA Fantasy League runner up,