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Old 01-16-2010, 08:31 PM   #1
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Default Post-Game #40 - Pacers lose tight one to Hornets

Subtitle: 0 Minutes for McRoberts

We let it slip away a little in the third quarter, when our offense dried up and our defense followed suit, but otherwise it was a well-contested game. New career-high for Roy Hibbert was the highlight for me, but the system play was solid enough, I thought, to give us a chance to win. We just didn't hit enough shots or get enough defensive boards to do so.

Disappointing end to the streak, but certainly not a game worthy of a "fire O'Brien" or "blow it up, blow it all up!" discussion in my opinion.

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Default Re: Post-Game #40 - Pacers lose tight one to Hornets

It's hard to win when your big three are wayyy off the mark. With that said we played hard and made it competive.
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Default Re: Post-Game #40 - Pacers lose tight one to Hornets

27 Pts for Roy I say thats a win no matter what the final score. Hopefully we can use this and build on it.
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Default Re: Post-Game #40 - Pacers lose tight one to Hornets

The better sign for Roy is his play is becoming more consistent. First time since the infamous, historic 5 game winning streak that he's scored in double figures 3 straight games. Obviously, this dude is a little better than David Harrision....lol.

Also, I love the way he is beginning to adapt to smaller front-lines. I think Phoenix was a good sign...
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27 Pts for Roy I say thats a win no matter what the final score. Hopefully we can use this and build on it.
Amen to that
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Watson v. Price in the airball derby...details at 11.
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Default Re: Post-Game #40 - Pacers lose tight one to Hornets

One thing I noticed is that Hibbs doesn't get very many boards in traffic. West and Okafor were tough on the boards. But Roy was very active in the post. He just didn't get much help from the perimeter guys.
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We let it slip away a little in the third quarter, when our offense dried up and our defense followed suit, but otherwise it was a well-contested game. New career-high for Roy Hibbert was the highlight for me, but the system play was solid enough, I thought, to give us a chance to win. We just didn't hit enough shots or get enough defensive boards to do so.

Disappointing end to the streak, but certainly not a game worthy of a "fire O'Brien" or "blow it up, blow it all up!" discussion in my opinion.
seems like this is pretty much spot on
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I was very impressed with Roy and AJ for a couple of reasons. Roy because on the second night of a back to back he played with energy, enthusism and effort - usually his play falls off in the second of a back to back. Price - I was impressed with his defense, he defended Paul better in the fourth quarter than Watson did.

Overall, the Pacers while they played hard, they didn't seem to have their legs, and that was a huge reason why the shooting was so poor.

I still was encouraged by the Pacers tonight
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Default Re: Post-Game #40 - Pacers lose tight one to Hornets

I don't get to see many games mostly depend on this board and highlights how often if ever does Hibbert have help in the post? Does Murphy ever play in the post on either end? What about when Hans or anyone else in there?
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I don't get to see many games mostly depend on this board and highlights how often if ever does Hibbert have help in the post? Does Murphy ever play in the post on either end? What about when Hans or anyone else in there?
I think Murph's allergic to the post on offense. His post defense has been better as of late, though.

Hansbrough doesn't have much of a post up game either. He's better at facing up and attacking his defender, usually resulting in some flip shot or a foul. His mid-range isn't too bad either.

Neither are much of a post threat. Roy's the best we have right now.
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The better sign for Roy is his play is becoming more consistent. First time since the infamous, historic 5 game winning streak that he's scored in double figures 3 straight games. Obviously, this dude is a little better than David Harrision....lol.

Also, I love the way he is beginning to adapt to smaller front-lines. I think Phoenix was a good sign...
That was the most significant moment of his career, IMO. That's when O'Brien realized Hibbert isn't a surefire liability against smaller, faster teams.
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I find it really funny that Hibbert seems to have his best games against the best defensive Centers in the NBA.
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Default Re: Post-Game #40 - Pacers lose tight one to Hornets

They played hard throughout the game. Mainly Roy did. They got sloppy in the second half and didn't shoot well.

Gold: Roy Hibbert
No explanation needed.

Let's hope to get road in win Miami and give them some pay back.
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I find it really funny that Hibbert seems to have his best games against the best defensive Centers in the NBA.
I think he rises to the level of competition.

In the same way, he doesn't have the killer instinct to dominate when he is against a lesser defensive player.
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I think he rises to the level of competition.

In the same way, he doesn't have the killer instinct to dominate when he is against a lesser defensive player.

I can see this developing as he gets older.
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I think he simply plays better when the other team doesn't double him. That happens to be when the other team has a strong defensive C they are used to relying upon. Basically, there is not a C in the league Roy cannot score on one-on-one. As a result, more and more he will be doubled...and his passing game to a perimeter shooter should be the #1 point of emphasis in practice. JMHO.
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They played hard throughout the game. Mainly Roy did. They got sloppy in the second half and didn't shoot well.

Gold: Roy Hibbert
No explanation needed.

Let's hope to get road in win Miami and give them some pay back.

I DEFINITELY think Dahntay Jones deserves the silver

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AJ the Bronze.... AJ would have at LEAST had 8 assists of the receiver of the pass, actually MADE the bucket.
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That was the most significant moment of his career, IMO. That's when O'Brien realized Hibbert isn't a surefire liability against smaller, faster teams.
All JOb needs to do is find an athletic PF to set next to Hibbert. Shawn Marion would be absolutely perfect on this team.

Imagine this:

Price
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Great defense to help the big fella
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Default Re: Post-Game #40 - Pacers lose tight one to Hornets

Ok it was amazing seeing roy play with such force and power and with such great awarness. The first half looked great!!! good solid basketball....well minus murphy.

What was up with danny tonight and why does murphy continue to push is own team mates out of the way to get a board????
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Not suprising they lost.

The Pacers are very perimeter paced. Back to backs and perimeter game is not generally a good mix.
Is this Danny's first back to back since coming back from injury? I think people really gotta give him a bit of a break. There's a healing time on the court that he needs to go through. He's looked more like himself, but just might not have been in game shape or completely "well" in order to succeed tonight.

Also, I'm happy to see that after getting killed by Nash, AJ had a pretty good game against Paul.

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Hadn't been to a game in around a month or so and I must say that Roy looked much more nimble/mobile. He always looks like Gumby to me, almost clumsy, but tonight he had some really nice moves and one reverse layup I actually did a double-take as I couldn't believe it was him that made the move. Very impressed.

AJ also was impressive, didn't at all look like a rookie and played pretty good D vs CP3. JOB has this fascination with putting two PGs in (JJ and TJ last year, AJ and Earl this year) and I really don't think it works, I thought AJ was doing just fine. For a late 2nd round pick, this kid really has a certain confidence about him. If we got a shot at John Wall I'd take it, but in the likely event we don't, AJ really looks like he could take the starting PG position down the road.
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Jim's rotations (or lack thereof) were awful tonight. Other than fatigue, I blame him most for this loss.
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All JOb needs to do is find an athletic PF to set next to Hibbert. Shawn Marion would be absolutely perfect on this team.

Imagine this:

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Great defense to help the big fella
Except that Marion is a small forward, and he spends most of his time guarding wings.
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Jim's rotations (or lack thereof) were awful tonight. Other than fatigue, I blame him most for this loss.
I say two games less than a day apart, playing really hard both nights caught up with us. You just can't see past your dark-tinted glasses.
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