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  • #76
    Re: Colts-Broncos

    http://www.indystar.com/interactive/...ng-Oct-20-game

    Colts will pay tribute to Peyton Manning at Oct. 20 game




    When Peyton Manning returns to Indianapolis in 11 days for a prime-time showdown against his former team, he can expect a hero’s welcome at Lucas Oil Stadium.
    And that will include a gracious reception from the Indianapolis Colts.
    The Colts are planning a tribute for Manning to acknowledge his remarkable contributions during 14 seasons with the franchise, team owner Jim Irsay told USA TODAY Sports.
    Details — including the extent of the tribute, which will likely occur during pregame festivities for the nationally-televised Sunday night game — are still being finalized.
    “We’re going to have a great tribute to him,” Irsay said while in Washington for NFL owners meetings. “It’s going to be something where you go into it wanting to have a lot of fun, where you love Peyton as a Colt fan, but now we’re competing against him.”


    The game would have been big enough simply with the Denver Broncos quarterback, a four-time NFL Most Valuable Player, returning to face his former team.
    Yet the game has added value, given the success of the respective franchises.
    It could be a preview of the AFC Championship Game.
    With Manning off to the best start of his career, the Broncos (5-0) head into Sunday’s game against the Jaguars as overwhelming favorites to remain unbeaten. The Colts (4-1), with second-year franchise quarterback Andrew Luck, lead the AFC South and are a legitimate contender as they play at San Diego on Monday night.
    “For this one day, we’re competitors,” Irsay said. “You look for a great game and that’s the main thing.”
    Paying tribute to an opponent comes with an element of risk.
    The Philadelphia Eagles paid homage to former coach Andy Reid when he returned with the Kansas City Chiefs for a Thursday night game in Week 3, and the video tribute and standing ovation set the tone for a huge Kansas City victory.
    Nonetheless, Irsay said that a tribute for Manning is appropriate.
    He can envision the reception.
    “It’ll be tremendous,” Irsay said. “They will cheer, as deserved. When he comes back on the field, I think there will be a boisterous standing ovation, as there should be. He means so much to our franchise.
    “It’s going to be crazy, but mostly it’ll be fun. I hope it’s just a great game.”
    There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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    • #77
      Re: Colts-Broncos

      I predict that Trent Richardson will breakout in this game.

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      • #78
        Re: Colts-Broncos

        Well hopefully we do not have to many douche fans who boo Peyton. Thankfully we are not like Eagle fans or Bulls fans for the most part.

        The worst thing is I will be flying in from Texas right before this game so I will have to be in blackout mode once the flight lands and book it home and catch it on my DVR. This game is going to be nuts and I have no clue how it will turn out.

        I could see Peyton just going nuts and dropping 7 touchdowns on us or I could see our team going nuts and just beating the crap out of them.

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        • #79
          Re: Colts-Broncos

          Originally posted by thewholefnshow31 View Post
          Well hopefully we do not have to many douche fans who boo Peyton. Thankfully we are not like Eagle fans or Bulls fans for the most part.

          The worst thing is I will be flying in from Texas right before this game so I will have to be in blackout mode once the flight lands and book it home and catch it on my DVR. This game is going to be nuts and I have no clue how it will turn out.

          I could see Peyton just going nuts and dropping 7 touchdowns on us or I could see our team going nuts and just beating the crap out of them.

          They'll boo him during the game.

          I mean really the Eagles fans applauded for McNabb before the game and then booed him during the game.

          Same thing will happen here.

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          • #80
            Re: Colts-Broncos

            Originally posted by Basketball Fan View Post
            They'll boo him during the game.

            I mean really the Eagles fans applauded for McNabb before the game and then booed him during the game.

            Same thing will happen here.
            1) Philly fans suck. This is known.
            2) McNabb != Manning
            There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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            • #81
              Re: Colts-Broncos

              Originally posted by TheDon View Post
              I predict that Trent Richardson will breakout in this game.
              It would be a lovely time to do so. I rather hope he continues to build on his nice second half against Seattle against the Chargers, and then we are really going to need him against Denver. There is no stopping that offense, so we have to control the clock and grind out those long, 10 play 76 yard type of drives that eat up 8 or so minutes. We cannot kick the ball to Trindon Holliday under any circumstances, and we need to try to create a few turnovers, especially when they run the ball.

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              • #82
                Re: Colts-Broncos

                Interesting stat - Denver has the #1 rush defense and the 32nd pass defense.

                I'm sure it's because teams are trying to catch up. Kind of makes sense that you'd want to get a lead on them early. They'll need to be successful with the run from the start.

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                • #83
                  Re: Colts-Broncos

                  [QUOTE=Kid Minneapolis;1715894]http://www.indystar.com/interactive/...ng-Oct-20-game
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                  Man the Colts are so good at this stuff. Well played pre-emptive strike in case the place is filled with Bronco/Manning fans. I would imagine Pete Ward and Craig Kelly have been working on this for awhile.
                  You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

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                  • #84
                    Re: Colts-Broncos

                    Originally posted by PacerDude View Post
                    Interesting stat - Denver has the #1 rush defense and the 32nd pass defense.

                    I'm sure it's because teams are trying to catch up. Kind of makes sense that you'd want to get a lead on them early. They'll need to be successful with the run from the start.
                    Yeah when you think about it, it only makes sense. Denver is jumping all over teams so quickly that they really don't have any choice but to throw the ball to catch up.

                    Weird question to pose but: What would you do if we won the coin toss? Would you want the ball first so that your offense could set the tempo and (with any luck, no pun intended) grab an early lead? The risk there is that we all know Peyton is the master of the two minute drill before halftime, and if he successfully completed that and then they got the ball to start the second half it could put us in a hole. The other side is to defer and let Manning and the offense go out first, hope they are sluggish and you can get a stop, but run the real risk of going down 7-0 and then having to worry about the offense playing with a sense of urgency to score because they know Denver is going to pile on the points.

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                    • #85
                      Re: Colts-Broncos

                      Of course there will be a bunch of Manning fans there. I'm a Colts fan, but I also love me some Manning. I'd say this is true of a huge portion of the fan base.
                      There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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                      • #86
                        Re: Colts-Broncos

                        Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis View Post
                        1) Philly fans suck. This is known.
                        2) McNabb != Manning


                        I meant in how this is going to go its not going to be like Grandpa Favre when he returned to Green Bay he was booed throughout

                        He'll be cheered at the beginning before the game begins and then during the game they'll boo/root against him like they do every other QB. I think people overestimate that fans are going to suddenly cheer for Denver because Manning is QB unless they were either Manning fans first or Denver fans (and there's a lot that actually do live here before Peyton came to their team) who came to Indy to watch their team.

                        As for the tribute I guess you can't really win either way if he does it its considered being soft with the competition and it should wait till after he retires (and I do agree with that) and if he doesn't do something he's being a dick.

                        At least this makes more sense than putting Marshall Faulk and Eric Dickerson in the Ring Of Honor... that is absurd.

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                        • #87
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                          Originally posted by cdash View Post
                          Yeah when you think about it, it only makes sense. Denver is jumping all over teams so quickly that they really don't have any choice but to throw the ball to catch up.

                          Weird question to pose but: What would you do if we won the coin toss? Would you want the ball first so that your offense could set the tempo and (with any luck, no pun intended) grab an early lead? The risk there is that we all know Peyton is the master of the two minute drill before halftime, and if he successfully completed that and then they got the ball to start the second half it could put us in a hole. The other side is to defer and let Manning and the offense go out first, hope they are sluggish and you can get a stop, but run the real risk of going down 7-0 and then having to worry about the offense playing with a sense of urgency to score because they know Denver is going to pile on the points.

                          Ugh, that's a tough call.

                          You really don't want to give Peyton Manning the ball at the beginning of the game and allow him to immediately grab the momentum in such a big game.

                          OTOH, he is the master of the two minute drill at the end of the half, so if he gets the ball first after the half, then you are potentially allowing him the opportunity to hang 14 consecutive points on you.

                          That's a tough call. If you put a gun to my head, I'd say give them the ball first and pray that you get a stop. It would be nice to play the first half under the peace of mind that we're getting the ball back at the start of the second half. That way we don't have to worry about him hanging 10 or 14 straight points on us.

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                          • #88
                            Re: Colts-Broncos

                            Originally posted by Basketball Fan View Post
                            At least this makes more sense than putting Marshall Faulk and Eric Dickerson in the Ring Of Honor... that is absurd.

                            I'm OK with Dickerson. He was the first "big star" in our Indy era and brought us attention that we desperately needed.

                            Faulk though? No way. Stud running back here, but there's just not enough on the resume' to justify it, IMHO. We're really starting to lower the standards with him. I don't mean that in a nasty way, but I think it should be reserved for the elite of the elite. Aren't we going to be adding like eight or so names from the Manning era?

                            Harrison is already there (no brainer)
                            Edge is already there (no brainer)
                            Dungy is already there (no brainer)
                            Peyton will obviously get in
                            Saturday will get in
                            Wayne will get in
                            Freeney and Mathis will get in
                            Tarik Glenn should get in

                            Who else? All of these guys played here longer than Faulk's five.
                            Last edited by Sollozzo; 10-10-2013, 01:07 PM.

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                            • #89
                              Re: Colts-Broncos

                              Originally posted by Sollozzo View Post
                              That's a tough call. If you put a gun to my head, I'd say give them the ball first and pray that you get a stop. It would be nice to play the first half under the peace of mind that we're getting the ball back at the start of the second half. That way we don't have to worry about him hanging 10 or 14 straight points on us.
                              Yeah, that's kind of where I am leaning too.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Colts-Broncos

                                Originally posted by cdash View Post
                                Yeah, that's kind of where I am leaning too.

                                Another thing to consider is that our offense starts out slow sometimes. The last two weeks are a perfect example. It would suck to come up empty handed after receiving first. I think we'd have a better chance of doing something coming out of halftime than we would at the very start. Yeah, the more I think about it, kick off to him and hope that you can get a stop or at least hold them to 3. The peace of mind of getting the ball back to start the half would be very very nice.

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