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Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:

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Title of the Article
Author's Name
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Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

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We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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  • #91
    Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

    Reminds me of these classic posts from r/nba (NSFW language):

    I'm just speaking on some real ****. The NBA hoe game is a literal profession for a lot of chicks. All Star Weekend is their Super Bowl. There's literally an entire subculture of women who's main objective is to ****/get pregnant from/marry an NBA player (if you're lucky you might even get a reality show; that's like the Balon D'Or for basic *****es). Like that's their life mission, and they execute that **** with stunning precision. So honestly, I can understand how someone like Dwight Howard has 8 illegitimate kids. I'm surprised these guys don't have more the way the girls are on them.

    These ain't your regular gapped tooth shoeless running make up dive dar basic *****es either, these hoes is professionals. You ever see them girls on Instagram that are so bad that you just be thinkin to yourself like "man I'd get that **** pregnant **** it". Okay, imagine if you weren't just a thirsty nigga on Instagram and hoes of that caliber were on your dick 24/7. You wouldn't know what to do with all that booty. That's the NBA.

    These the "poke a hole in the condom" type chicks (these days they don't even have to do that, you just convince the dude that you're on the pill and hope that the prospect of going raw is more enticing than common sense). But the players that do that are stupid, you can spot a thot a mile away. So honestly its just pretty much mostly the players' fault for getting caught up in an obvious con game in the name of getting laid.
    these young bucks don't know. You gotta remember a lot of these NBA players aren't even old enough to drink when they get in the league; they're still babies. They've been coddled their entire life, all through school and college, and now they get out in the real world with a pocket full of cash and every type of girl you could imagine trying to pull your sweatpants off. See, before you got that contract, while you were in school, you were just a prospect. You probably got a lot of attention from women, but your success wasn't a guarantee. Once you start pulling in them bucks, the type of women you encounter drastically change. Straight up jaw droppers wherever you turn. That's not an accident.

    These kids don't understand that once you're in the real world, sex becomes a business move, for both parties. Even for us mortals, money is a big factor in your sex life. I don't care who you are, you know that **** is important. (Protip from Uncle Snuggie: if you got money, just don't **** broke *****es. Just don't, change your phone number if you have to. Move to the other side of the country to somewhere broke *****es cant afford to go. They will ruin everything I don't care how pretty they are get a ***** with some capital. That's real ****. Get a Kim Kardashian. She stupid and probably can't read but she got money and won't take that much from you in divorce proceedings because of that. Be with someone who can throw in the pot too.)

    The Dwight Howard's of the world don't understand that there's a price tag hanging off his nutsack. Dwight Howard is easily shelling out 6 figures a year per baby mama. (The **** you need 100k a year to raise a baby? I could raise my whole hood 6 times with that kind of paper all babies need is somethin to rattle and someone to wipe they ***) That's more money than most of us will ever make in our lives, even those of us with professional and graduate degrees. 18 years, 18 years, she got one of yo kids, got you for 18 years.

    I think every citizen, NBA or not, should know how divorce/family laws work, especially if you ever **** around and get paid. You find out how much Uncle Sam will take out of your pocket cause you wanted to **** raw and it'll turn you into a nun; keep your dick on a leash kid.

    When you're young and naive if you believe in **** like the purity of "love" and all that other liberal hippie crap Disney shoves down your throat as a child you can fall victim to a big butt and a smile quite easily.
    That's real ****

    edit: I see this post got crossposted to /r/bestof, but more disturbingly /r/theredpill, and let me tell you trenchcoat wearing neckbeards something before yall try to crown me the king of you dry dick mother ****ers. For all the colossal ******** I just did on hoes in this post, this is not in any way representative of the female population at large. I'm simply speaking on a small, super super small, minority subculture. I would never imply or suggest that all women, not even a majority, are out here throwin the pussy like a boomerang hoping to catch some rich dude sperm. I still put ladies above everything. That's still your mama, that's still your sister, that's still the mother of your children. This post is not meant to be critical of women; rather, its meant to be critical of money and the economy (created by dudes) that women are forced to live in. It's not because women are manipulative, its because men are ****ing retarded, I stated that from the jump. Cons come in all genders, if men could get a cozy 18 year stipend from ****ing Hillary Clinton there would be a line of thirst wrapped around the white house. Even though I ***** on these hoes, I still respect them like they my own family, because they are. I'm familiar with TRP, yall the most salty, confused, sexually depraved group of misogynistic no pussy gettin dudes I ever seen, that's real. Ain't no need to start a war on women cause you ugly and you ain't got no money and you fell for the sweet smell of that vaginal lining. That's on you dude; blaming the pussy for this is like blaming video games for school violence. At some point you took the stupidity into your own hands. That ain't the wave yall
    You Got The Tony!!!!!!

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    • #92
      Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

      Originally posted by QuickRelease View Post
      I miss CJ Cregg

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      • #93
        Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

        Protip from Uncle Snuggie


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        • #94
          Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

          PG with the And One!

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          • #95
            Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

            The Thirst? She's thirsty..... I hear this term all the time now. Hilarious what people will come up with to describe things these days.
            You can't get champagne from a garden hose.

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            • #96
              Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

              It means they're desperate basically.

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              • #97
                Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

                No source.. lol

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                @Coupe460

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                • #98
                  Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

                  Not that this confirms or denies anything, but didn't Paul say he spent a week in Miami after the playoffs were over last year to decompress?
                  “Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                  • #99
                    Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

                    I don't see what the big deal is. I imagine this kid will be born into a better financial situation than 99% of stripper babies.

                    And to those questioning the morality of stripping as a profession, I would suggest you head on back to the puritanical commune from whence you came. Get a grip.


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                    • #100
                      Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

                      Originally posted by TOP View Post
                      Is it the place to call women pretty? Would that post get deleted too?

                      What is happening... can post pics of half naked women and talk about abortion, pregnancy etc. but I can't call a girl, not even person, but a girl, ugly. Yay feminism?

                      I'm not trying to be a jerk but I'm just trying to figure out how and why a line is drawn at "calling a woman ugly".
                      I'm not huge on people drooling over them here, either, and even that can only go so far here (this isn't the place) but at least that is mostly positive. But when it comes to the negative side of that coin, I just find it a very ugly, distasteful thing to do, and I'm not having it here. I'm just not.

                      As for the part in bold... holy ****, dude.

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                      • #101
                        Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

                        so now we at PD can talk about sticking "d*ck" .... but still cannot say the word a-s-s ?

                        wow



                        note: cdash, in no way am I pinpointing you out.. just the censorship thing
                        "Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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                        • #102
                          Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

                          I'm more disappointed that this has now (sort of) brought the Pacers back under a dark cloud if you will (This thread will go on and on) than the fact the PG maybe did this.

                          If he did, he's an idiot. But he'll have to deal with making a major mistake. It isn't the end of the world though.

                          Come to think of it, I can already see the negative effect Bynum is having /green
                          Stop quoting people I have on ignore!

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                          • #103
                            Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

                            Originally posted by Kemo View Post
                            so now we at PD can talk about sticking "d*ck" .... but still cannot say the word a-s-s ?

                            wow



                            note: cdash, in no way am I pinpointing you out.. just the censorship thing
                            We probably need to re-evaluate what words are or aren't *'d out.

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                            • #104
                              Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

                              agreed :thumbs up.. also context is EVERYTHING IMO
                              "Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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                              • #105
                                Re: Paul George got a stripper pregnant?

                                Originally posted by Kemo View Post
                                so now we at PD can talk about sticking "d*ck" .... but still cannot say the word a-s-s ?

                                wow



                                note: cdash, in no way am I pinpointing you out.. just the censorship thing
                                Yeah, I went back and edited it. Truth be told, I wrote that like I wrote most profanity: Assuming the filter would get it.

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