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Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

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  • #46
    Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

    Originally posted by CableKC View Post
    I have a question......it sound like Ike had a decent game. With one of the best defending Big Men in the league playing.....did he and the rest of the Spurs double team Ike?

    If so.....how did he react to it?

    Was Ike able to make a shot around Duncan?

    or

    Was he able to pass the ball out on double-teams?

    I'm more curious as to learn how Ike did so well and what he did against one of the best defensive teams in the league.
    The Spurs rarely doubled Ike at all; he mostly went 1-on-1 against Duncan. I'd say it was a push for the most part except Ike did seem to frustrate Duncan somewhat.

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    • #47
      Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

      Originally posted by NuffSaid View Post
      The Spurs rarely doubled Ike at all; he mostly went 1-on-1 against Duncan. I'd say it was a push for the most part except Ike did seem to frustrate Duncan somewhat.
      I'm glad that he did very well against one of the better defensive big Men in the league, but I'm really surprised that they didn't double-team Ike. Someone must have forgotten to read their scouting report on Ike cuz everyone and their Grandmother knows that he has troubles passing out of double-teams.
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      • #48
        Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

        Originally posted by BlueNGold View Post
        I really don't get this at all. I can understand people wanting the team to lose this year, but not next year. Who wants two seasons of garbage?

        As for the draft, we could draft a big stud this year and trade assets for a back court player or another pick. People seem to forget that this is like a double draft. The quality is likely to be higher than next year. I know we are loaded in the front court, but what better time to unload JO for a solid back court player or two. Ike seems to handle the PF position pretty well and if we draft another big, we should be set and ready to send JO on his way...or keep JO and package up Foster and Williams or Granger for an upgrade in the back court.

        In any event, I want to win it all next year...unless Tinsley is our PG.

        I don't know about this... one thing to keep in mind this year from what I have heard on radio espn ect.. Oden and Durrant coming out is not set in stone... Durrant enjoyed the tournament and might want to due it again next year.. loves his coach.. how knows. and Oden most likely will come back if his teams looses to Florida Monday... the main idea is this year really will not have a draft that suits our needs as much as next year. Even if we make the playoffs next year and IMO we will probably still get a better player that suits our needs then we would get this year out of the top four or five Especially if Oden and Durant both stay.
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        • #49
          Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

          Excellent. This should help Tinsley's trade value.
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          • #50
            Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

            Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
            I have a confession to make. During the timeout right before Tinsley hit the game winner, I said, I don't care who shoots it as long as it isn't Tinsley. Oh well.

            Tonights game was all about Ike. It is obvious that when he gets the inutes he gets things doen. But when he just plays 10 minutes or so backing up JO, he does nothing. What I liked best tonight was that I saw Ike really playing hard, he battled and mentally he was into it. I know he can score, I know he can shoot, but sometimes he looks lost - but not tonight. Whether we want to admit it or not - Ike might just be the Pacers most important player - in the future and as they decide how to rebuild this team.
            I have been giving IKE props since day one and saying he needed more time on the floor, he is a starter, I don't care about his size. I'm glad to see RC give him some mins. Tonight he had no choice with your boy Foster hurt. Would still like to see him paired with JO, probably not enough room in the paint though. Bottom line, play IKE!
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            • #51
              Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

              Originally posted by BlueNGold View Post
              I really don't get this at all. I can understand people wanting the team to lose this year, but not next year. Who wants two seasons of garbage?

              As for the draft, we could draft a big stud this year and trade assets for a back court player or another pick. People seem to forget that this is like a double draft. The quality is likely to be higher than next year. I know we are loaded in the front court, but what better time to unload JO for a solid back court player or two. Ike seems to handle the PF position pretty well and if we draft another big, we should be set and ready to send JO on his way...or keep JO and package up Foster and Williams or Granger for an upgrade in the back court.

              In any event, I want to win it all next year...unless Tinsley is our PG.

              Amen!!!

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              • #52
                Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

                Originally posted by indy0731 View Post
                I've just always thought that Tins is a pretty clutch player. I do feel he attempts to step up and help the team when he is asked to. Meh, I'm a Tins lover at heart I guess.
                He's easily the most willing to attempt, but I'm not sure if he's ever hit a game winner for us. I'm guessing tonight was the first time, unless someone can remember another.

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                • #53
                  Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

                  BTW,

                  Did anyone catch Shawne Williams doing the "Marbles" Dance (from the movie Major League II) after Tinsley's layup? And then he went up to Joe Crawford a few moments later, with Tinsley standing next to him and listening, and told Joey how good that play was? It almost matched his comment to David Harrison after SJax hit that three against Golden State ("we're going to be on SportsCenter").

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                  • #54
                    Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

                    Originally posted by OnlyPacersLeft View Post
                    it's on espn?I think it's only on NBA tv...:-/
                    but wowwowowowo! I went to the magic game tonight vs the wolves and i thought for sure the wolves were dead in the water...trailing by 5 with just over a minute to go...Then they win in OT! woot! thank u ricky davis!
                    1 1/2 games out now! wow...just amazing! LETS DO THE DAMN THING!
                    hmm...Indiana wants to win....Detroit wants Indiana to win....

                    Somehow I think we'll both be disappointed.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

                      this win felt so weird. i wanted to be happy, but i couldn't although i knew i was deep inside but i wasn't quite sure. is this really a good win? i wanted us to win, but i wanted us to lose to. huh? have the Pacers completely messed up my mind? i'd talk smack with u Kstat, but this simply isn't the Pacers team I'd die for. Your Pistons are going down on the second round though. BELIEVE THAT!
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                      • #56
                        Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

                        Originally posted by indy0731 View Post
                        May I ask why? In my mind I have always thought Tins to be a pretty clutch player. He has probably hit more game winning shots than anyone else on the team at this point.
                        I don't think he's hit a single one till tonight. I just called him ANTI-clutch in another thread before this game. His problem has been finishing out, and this season alone he probably has 5-6 really horrible 4th quarters, like 0-5 or worse situations. Typically those come after he's had a great first half or even 3/4 of a game.

                        In the "Wells- effort" thread I said this even
                        That's what I mean about Tins dialed in. He's struggling to MAKE shots at times, especially in the 2nd halves of games. But he is getting good looks almost at will.

                        Right now I find myself HOPING for Mel Mel, enjoying Mel Mel, because it's the good version (if the shots were falling). I saw him do something he hasn't been doing recently, catch a pass at the arc, FAKE and then dribble in to a closer look.

                        Stuff like that and other plays look like MelMel in good form, trying to take over and make something out of just nothing. He's not playing out of control angry like bad MelMel, the one that gets baited into one-upmanship.
                        Good MelMel finally got one to fall for him. If he could drop those shots more often he'd be an Indy favorite for sure. He gets free about as easily as Quis, he just doesn't TYPICALLY finish like Quis.

                        It was freaking beautiful to see it happen tonight, glad he put it in my face just after I'd decided that his problem was 4th quarters. Go figure.

                        Not to mention that he then made a monster defensive play at the other end to basically kill any chance the Spurs might have had to steal it back. Brilliant effort by Tins.


                        Of course it helps when Dun and Troy are hitting their jumpers. Scrap points don't pressure the defense even if they make your box look modestly okay.


                        I and several others said even after the ORL loss, it didn't look like they quit on us. The effort has been there, just not the results. Hard to figure the ORL loss followed by the SA win, but I'll take 1-1 out of the pair. Of course beating ORL would have helped their playoff situation more.

                        It would be nice if they could make a statement vs DET to go with the playoff run. Unfortunately I can't help but feel this might be another fleeting moment of success, not unlike the MIA game.

                        Consistant execution has been their downfall, especially since the trade.


                        Wasn't it nice to enjoy a win though, so much better than hoping for a draft pick. I don't care if wins like this keep them out of the draft, the wins are so much more fun.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

                          Originally posted by Naptown_Seth View Post
                          I don't think he's hit a single one till tonight. I just called him ANTI-clutch in another thread before this game. His problem has been finishing out, and this season alone he probably has 5-6 really horrible 4th quarters, like 0-5 or worse situations. Typically those come after he's had a great first half or even 3/4 of a game.

                          In the "Wells- effort" thread I said this even

                          Good MelMel finally got one to fall for him. If he could drop those shots more often he'd be an Indy favorite for sure. He gets free about as easily as Quis, he just doesn't TYPICALLY finish like Quis.

                          It was freaking beautiful to see it happen tonight, glad he put it in my face just after I'd decided that his problem was 4th quarters. Go figure.

                          Not to mention that he then made a monster defensive play at the other end to basically kill any chance the Spurs might have had to steal it back. Brilliant effort by Tins.


                          Of course it helps when Dun and Troy are hitting their jumpers. Scrap points don't pressure the defense even if they make your box look modestly okay.


                          I and several others said even after the ORL loss, it didn't look like they quit on us. The effort has been there, just not the results. Hard to figure the ORL loss followed by the SA win, but I'll take 1-1 out of the pair. Of course beating ORL would have helped their playoff situation more.

                          It would be nice if they could make a statement vs DET to go with the playoff run. Unfortunately I can't help but feel this might be another fleeting moment of success, not unlike the MIA game.

                          Consistant execution has been their downfall, especially since the trade.


                          Wasn't it nice to enjoy a win though, so much better than hoping for a draft pick. I don't care if wins like this keep them out of the draft, the wins are so much more fun.
                          I agree. Let's just hope for playoffs. Worst case scenario they blow it up this summer and we get a top 10 pick next year where we'll have a bigger selection of player to draft. Best case scenario, we get a decent PG, some shooters, and a chance to gel...and presto we got a good team again...yeah...I know.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

                            BTW, credit given where due. I've been ripping on DA's shot selection. Tonight he was 0-1. It was a 3 of course, but at least he only took 1. And instead we got 6 assists from him. Very nice Army, that's a lot more helpful.

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                            • #59
                              Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

                              Originally posted by BlueNGold View Post
                              I really don't get this at all. I can understand people wanting the team to lose this year, but not next year. Who wants two seasons of garbage?

                              As for the draft, we could draft a big stud this year and trade assets for a back court player or another pick. People seem to forget that this is like a double draft. The quality is likely to be higher than next year. I know we are loaded in the front court, but what better time to unload JO for a solid back court player or two. Ike seems to handle the PF position pretty well and if we draft another big, we should be set and ready to send JO on his way...or keep JO and package up Foster and Williams or Granger for an upgrade in the back court.

                              In any event, I want to win it all next year...unless Tinsley is our PG.
                              2 seasons? In my mind, everyone better strap in, because we're taking a relatively longterm pluge and the forseeable future may very well look like the 1980's. Depending on a lot of factors, it might take 3-4 years for the Pacers to contend again.
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                              • #60
                                Re: Pacers vs. Spurs Post-Game Thread: Do you believe in miracles?

                                Originally posted by OnlyPacersLeft View Post
                                it's on espn?I think it's only on NBA tv...:-/
                                but wowwowowowo! I went to the magic game tonight vs the wolves and i thought for sure the wolves were dead in the water...trailing by 5 with just over a minute to go...Then they win in OT! woot! thank u ricky davis!
                                1 1/2 games out now! wow...just amazing! LETS DO THE DAMN THING!
                                My bad...I thought they said on TNT at the end of last night's Suns/Mavs broadcast (not even ESPN)...but espn.com still says NBATV so I'm not sure. But they did it last week, no?

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