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Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

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  • Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

    Are More Moves Likely In Near Future?


    Monday, Sept. 25, 2006


    QUESTION OF THE DAY
    Conrad Brunner



    Q. Earlier, it was reported that the Pacers were not yet done wheeling and dealing before the start of the season, especially given the fact they already have more players signed than the maximum of 15 they can have on the official roster by the time the 2006-07 season opens.

    With all of the changes in personnel, do you anticipate any significant moves being made before the start of the season begins or will they more than likely just cut players or trade them for draft picks if they don't work out in camp? With a short period of time that training camp will provide for new players and a new style to be implemented, wouldn't it make more sense to try and stabilize the roster as quickly as possible, or will they try to change and possibly upgrade even more knowing that this team won't like come together until later in the season? (From B.J. in Sullivan, Ind.)


    A. Typically, the closer a team gets to training camp, the less likely a deal becomes. Though this has been anything but a typical summer for the Pacers, I suspect that is the case. Having made the numerous moves that have brought 11 new faces onto a roster that currently stands at 18 names, the time has come to see exactly how everything fits together. The players also need some time to learn one another both from a personal and professional standpoint so that the necessary bonding can take place. Combine all of that newness with the implementation of a different offensive system, and you can see why training camp and the preseason will be exceptionally important for the players and coaches.

    From a need standpoint, there are a couple of areas Donnie Walsh and Larry Bird would like to address. Another big body would help, and 3-point shooting is an area of high priority.

    But as it stands the Pacers are pretty well-stocked at the two post positions with Jeff Foster, David Harrison and John Edwards at center and Jermaine O'Neal, Maceo Baston, Al Harrington, Josh Powell and ultimately Shawne Williams at power forward.

    As for 3-point shooting, there's less certainty beyond Sarunas Jasikevicius but guys like Danny Granger, Williams and Snap Hunter could help fill the void.

    If another significant move is to be made, it seems much more likely it would come during the February pre-trade-deadline period. By then, the front office and coaching staff will have had time to sort through the new players in order to better establish the Pacers' true strengths and ultimate needs.

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    Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

    Just cut some people; we definitely cannot have five point guards on the team. If we cut a halfway decent deal for a backup C, this was the best summer ever . He has a lot of faith in Saras which is strange. No more moves till camp; focus on getting the new guys acclimated to the system of Pacer basketball.
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      Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

      Originally posted by AesopRockOn View Post
      Just cut some people; we definitely cannot have five point guards on the team. If we cut a halfway decent deal for a backup C, this was the best summer ever . He has a lot of faith in Saras which is strange.
      Maybe to you it's strange but most Pacer fans have a lot of faith in Sarunas. You're one of the very few who hasn't. and for what reason I may ask?
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        Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

        Originally posted by Alpolloloco View Post
        Maybe to you it's strange but most Pacer fans have a lot of faith in Sarunas. You're one of the very few who hasn't. and for what reason I may ask?
        He doesnt have faith in him because Saras is bad at basketball. He had a whole season to play last year and he proved nothing. Dont be suprised if by the 10-15th game Queezey is backing up Tins.

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          Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

          Originally posted by Jermaniac View Post
          He doesnt have faith in him because Saras is bad at basketball. He had a whole season to play last year and he proved nothing. Dont be suprised if by the 10-15th game Queezey is backing up Tins.
          And don't be surprised if by the 10-15th game Queezy is backing up Saras, while Tins sits on the bench injured or pouting.

          Each scenario is as likely as the other. I'm still a little miffed that we traded our lone dependable PG and kept two question marks (Saras and Tins), and our lone back-up plan is a SG/SF who can play some point but hasn't cracked a rotation in the last 2 years.
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            Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

            Originally posted by Jermaniac View Post
            He doesnt have faith in him because Saras is bad at basketball. He had a whole season to play last year and he proved nothing. Dont be suprised if by the 10-15th game Queezey is backing up Tins.
            What did JO prove last season?
            That he isn't clutch and is injury-prone?

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              Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

              Originally posted by bulldog View Post
              ...our lone back-up plan is a SG/SF who can play some point but hasn't cracked a rotation in the last 2 years.
              It is more than a little deceptive to say that Quis hasn't been in the rotation for 2 years.

              He did fail to crack the tightened PLAYOFF rotation this year, but he played in almost 80% of the Mavs regular season games this year (62 games, 29 starts) and averaged 28.4 min/g, which is more minutes per game than AJ, by the way. He has more starts in his 3-year career than AJ had combined in the 7 years immediately before last season.

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                Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

                I personally like the idea of keeping as many of these guys as we can for as long as we can. If we have like 8 guys all fighting for the last 5 spots, that can only bring a lot of energy, competitiveness and fire to practice. It's like a bunch of JV kids trying out for the varsity squad. Because let's face it, a lot of these dudes are pretty JV.

                But hopefully a spirit of competitiveness will permeate it's way up to the top and JO/Al/Granger/Harrison/Foster/Tinsley and all the other guys with defined roles will be affected by the young'ns and cast-offs.
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                  Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

                  Originally posted by pacertom View Post
                  It is more than a little deceptive to say that Quis hasn't been in the rotation for 2 years.

                  He did fail to crack the tightened PLAYOFF rotation this year, but he played in almost 80% of the Mavs regular season games this year (62 games, 29 starts) and averaged 28.4 min/g, which is more minutes per game than AJ, by the way. He has more starts in his 3-year career than AJ had combined in the 7 years immediately before last season.
                  Fine, fine, you got me. Still, is he a PG? I doubt it, who knows.
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                    Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

                    Originally posted by bulldog View Post
                    And don't be surprised if by the 10-15th game Queezy is backing up Saras, while Tins sits on the bench injured or pouting.

                    Each scenario is as likely as the other. I'm still a little miffed that we traded our lone dependable PG and kept two question marks (Saras and Tins), and our lone back-up plan is a SG/SF who can play some point but hasn't cracked a rotation in the last 2 years.
                    Nah, Al is back, we are running a new offense. Tins is good.

                    Better luck next time.

                    Originally posted by Beowulfas View Post
                    What did JO prove last season?
                    That he isn't clutch and is injury-prone?
                    I dont even know this dude, so I'm gonna pass on this post.

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                      Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

                      I really don't understand how absolutely everyone is ignoring the big huge gaping weakness at PG. Does everyone have their head buried in the sand or what??

                      Tinsley is not going to stay healthy/happy, and then we got Saras and a few guys that couldn't even play in the NBA last year. Yeah I don't see how anyone with a brain in their skull thinks this is gonna work out....

                      EDIT: Whats more frustrating is the so called areas that everyone thinks we need to improve in are another big man and 3 pt shooting. Those don't even compare in the least little bit to the importance of good play from the PG position. And like he even said, we already have enough post players so why anyone is asking for another big is beyond me.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

                        Originally posted by Mr.ThunderMakeR View Post
                        I really don't understand how absolutely everyone is ignoring the big huge gaping weakness at PG. Does everyone have their head buried in the sand or what??

                        Tinsley is not going to stay healthy/happy, and then we got Saras and a few guys that couldn't even play in the NBA last year. Yeah I don't see how anyone with a brain in their skull thinks this is gonna work out....

                        EDIT: Whats more frustrating is the so called areas that everyone thinks we need to improve in are another big man and 3 pt shooting. Those don't even compare in the least little bit to the importance of good play from the PG position. And like he even said, we already have enough post players so why anyone is asking for another big is beyond me.

                        Heads in the sand....
                        You're not a Darrell Armstrong believer?

                        But yeah.....I agree. It seems as though a bunch of people are considering Quis or "never-played-a-minute-in-the-league-or-hardly-any-PG-anywhere" James White as legit options at the point. I don't see it.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

                          We only have one legit option at point, until we can do something different roster wise (other than sign overhyped, overwhelmed backups) we have to hold our collective breath and hope he stays healthy and happy.

                          This team still needs to improve in the backcourt, which has had far worse professionalism/ chemistry than our (now overhauled) frontcourt ever had.
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                            Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

                            Pacers point guard position is probably the worst of any team that has a chance of making the playoffs.

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                              Re: Are More Moves Likely In Near Future? {Pacers.com 9.25.06}

                              i wish people would get off Sarus's back...sure he had a lackluster rookie nba season but man...everyone seems to want to send out the lynch mob on the guy. give him a chance!
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