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2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

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  • Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

    Originally posted by CableKC View Post
    What about Earl Watson?

    He's with the Jazz as well
    I've always liked Earl but seems like this has been the year the wheels finally fall off, he really shouldn't be getting NBA minutes anymore.

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      Originally posted by CableKC View Post
      We need a PG that can effectively run the offense in a half-court set.....are there any Guards out there that can do that?
      Calderon has been fairly available ever since they got Lowry. His agent was given green light to search for trade offers.
      I'm just not sure what we could offer. Tyler + DJA expirings + a pick?

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        Originally posted by hackashaq View Post
        Calderon has been fairly available ever since they got Lowry. His agent was given green light to search for trade offers.
        I'm just not sure what we could offer. Tyler + DJA expirings + a pick?
        I wouldn't send that for Calderon especially when there is a good chance that he will bolt after this season. Also...just because DJ sucks it up....I don't think that ANY PG would fit into the offense that we run.....well, just because he is not named DJ. I keep on getting back to this whole notion that the main reason why DJ isn't working is because he's not a good fit for the half-court offense that the Pacers run. Getting a PG like Calderon ( who EQUALLY sucks on the defensive end ) but I thought ( and I could be wrong here ) is more of an up-tempo PG...wouldn't solve any of our problems. Same goes for PGs like Ridnour and Barea.

        I suggested this before....but would Bayless be a better fit...in the same vein that GH is a good fit in that he's more of a Combo Guard that has some PG skills?

        Does the Grizzlies run a half-court offense?

        What other Teams currently run a half-court offense that we can maybe poach a PG from?
        Last edited by CableKC; 12-24-2012, 06:22 PM.
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          Orlando's still sort of in make the playoffs mode but I don't expect that to last too long. Wonder how cheap E'Twaun Moore'd come.

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            So Kobe, Lebron, and Durant could all top Kareem's career scoring record. Kobe's the only one close enough to put any kind of odds on it or anything, but it's pretty wild to think about, three current players could beat a mark I used to think was pretty close to untouchable.

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              And to think Kareem was still contributing at the age of 41. I don't see these guys playing that long but they all started earlier than he did. Lebron also started off averaging a better PPG than Kobe and Kobe also has been through 2 NBA lockouts as opposed to Lebron's 1. Could be a very interesting storyline for years to come.
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                Kobe "only" has to put up ~26 a night for the next 3 years. I can absolutely see him being able to do that.

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                  Originally posted by dal9 View Post
                  With the Beverly signing maybe Toney Douglas is expendable. Don't know too much about his game though. Can't even remember where he went to college.
                  Douglas has been good for the Rockets. He is a good shooter and can defend. He is not a great creator, though. I don't think that he's a good fit for a pick and role offense.
                  Originally posted by IrishPacer
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                    http://www.nba.com/bulls/community/p...christmas.html

                    Pippen's no Scrooge when it comes to Christmas
                    Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen recently joined seven-year old La’Ren Kimble on stage for the Goodman Theatre’s production of A Christmas Carol in conjunction with Make-A-Wish Illinois

                    Bulls legend Scottie Pippen and La’Ren Kimble, a young beneficiary of Make-A-Wish Illinois, recently joined the cast of Goodman Theatre’s A Christmas Carol for a one night only performance.
                    By Adam Fluck | 12.23.2012

                    In Charles Dickens’ novella A Christmas Carol, first published in 1843, Ebenezer Scrooge is visited by Ghosts of Christmas Past, Present and Yet to Come in an effort to change his outlook on the holiday and life in general. It took an extraordinary journey for the wealthy but cynical businessman to come around, but in the end, he did.

                    This event marked the 6th consecutive year that the Goodman and Make-A-Wish Illinois have brightened the life of child battling a life-threatening medical condition.
                    A similar effort was not necessary when it come to convincing Scottie Pippen to take part in the Goodman Theatre’s 35th annual production of the timeless classic, especially given it involved sharing the stage with a Make-A-Wish child.

                    “I’ve worked with the Make-A-Wish Foundation many times over the years, so when I was contacted about being in A Christmas Carol with someone who had a wish, it was an easy decision,” said Pippen.

                    For the last six years, Chicago’s Goodman Theatre and Make-A-Wish Illinois have joined forces to brighten the life of child battling a life-threatening medical condition by pairing them with a local celebrity. Last year, Chicago White Sox manager Robin Ventura took part, and in 2010, Chicago Blackhawks ambassador and Hall of Famer Bobby Hull graced the stage with his presence.

                    This fall, the theatre approached the Bulls to see if Pippen would be interested in following suit and joining seven-year old La’Ren Kimble of Rockford, Ill. in this year’s edition of A Christmas Carol.

                    “The Goodman Theatre has been bringing in different athletes and celebrities over the year for cameos like mine, so this year was my year,” said Pippen, who serves as Special Advisor to the President & C.O.O. for the Bulls. “To be able to work with La’Ren, a beautiful young lady, was what it was all about for me.”

                    The process began the week after Thanksgiving, when Pippen first visited the theatre for his wardrobe fitting and more importantly, to meet La’Ren, along with her mother, Alicia Hagie and stepfather, Joseph Quayson.

                    “I wanted to be on TV,” said La’Ren of her wish. “They couldn’t do that for me, but this is like a bonus round and it’s better. I’m on a stage and I still get to be on camera.”

                    La’Ren was diagnosed with Beckwith-Wiedemann syndrome when she was just three weeks old. That condition led to the existence of a rare kidney cancer called Wilms' tumor. Regular appointments and a proactive approach have paid dividends for La’Ren and as she gets older, the risk of the cancer returning will significantly decrease. Still, life hasn’t always been easy for her with far more trips to the hospital than any child should endure. Though, as Pippen noted, you’d never know after meeting her.

                    “For someone who has faced so much adversity, she couldn’t be more upbeat and energetic,” said Pippen. “La’Ren is truly inspiring.”

                    Before leaving the theatre that afternoon, Pippen surprised La’Ren and her family with tickets to that evening’s Bulls game. They happily accepted and enjoyed sitting in the owner’s suite with Bulls President & Chief Operating Officer Michael Reinsdorf.

                    “It was a great day,” said Pippen. “We spent most of it together with her and her parents. It was a lot of fun for me and I think she had a lot of fun at the game. She got the opportunity to be in an arena where there’s a lot of excitement. There’s no better place than going to the United Center with the entertainment and the fact that there is always something going on during a game.”

                    Pippen and Kimble donned costumes tailored especially for them and appeared in select scenes of the 35th annual production of a Chicago holiday tradition.
                    La’Ren agreed. And though she didn’t know much about the Bulls before that night—she wasn’t even aware of Benny the Bull’s existence—all of that has changed. As for her favorite part of the evening?

                    “Seeing the Bulls win,” said La’Ren. “I couldn’t believe how much shouting there was.”

                    While throughout 17 seasons in the NBA, Pippen performed on several big stages, whether at home at the Chicago Stadium or the United Center, New York’s Madison Square Garden, or the Forum in Los Angeles, on Dec. 14 a different kind of stage awaited.

                    Pippen’s acting resume is limited to say the least. Aside from various commercials during his playing career and more recently, a quick visit on the Conan O’Brien show during their week of shooting at the Chicago Theater, most of the time he’s been on camera has either been as a player or former player in a setting which surrounded the game of basketball. He joked with La’Ren, an aspiring actress, that she would have to help guide him while on stage.

                    On the night of the play, Pippen arrived at the Goodman Theatre a little over two hours before the 8 p.m. performance to catch up with La’Ren and her family. The two then sat down for a round of interviews before heading to their dressing rooms to get into their respective wardrobes.

                    As for their roles, Pippen and La’Ren appeared on stage several times throughout the evening as natives of London, most notably at the end of the play when Christmas morning was celebrated and a Scrooge with a considerable change of heart made his way through the crowd.

                    When it came time for their lines, they were ready: “Merry Christmas, Mr. Scrooge!”

                    While La’Ren had a small cheering section of family and friends in attendance at the sold out performance, Pippen did too, with his wife, Larsa, and his children, Scotty, Preston, Justin and Sophia, as well as his sister, Sherron, on hand for the show.

                    “The sentimental value behind this is very different that what I accomplished as a player,” said Pippen of the experience. “This has been a lot of fun. I had never even been to a play. You have to adjust to a different kind of audience and how they cheer. It’s definitely not like playing in a sports arena. I was interested to see the different mix.

                    “To be a part of this with Christmas coming up, plus the Make-A-Wish element, makes it very special,” added Pippen. “As a player, you try to do what you can to be a part of the kids’ lives in the Make-A-Wish events that I’ve done in the past. But this is different than what I’ve done in the past. We’ve really had an opportunity to interact. The weight to perform was on both our shoulders. But we held each other up and it was a lot of fun.”

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                    • Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

                      Originally posted by CableKC View Post
                      I wouldn't send that for Calderon especially when there is a good chance that he will bolt after this season. Also...just because DJ sucks it up....I don't think that ANY PG would fit into the offense that we run.....well, just because he is not named DJ. I keep on getting back to this whole notion that the main reason why DJ isn't working is because he's not a good fit for the half-court offense that the Pacers run. Getting a PG like Calderon ( who EQUALLY sucks on the defensive end ) but I thought ( and I could be wrong here ) is more of an up-tempo PG...wouldn't solve any of our problems. Same goes for PGs like Ridnour and Barea.

                      I suggested this before....but would Bayless be a better fit...in the same vein that GH is a good fit in that he's more of a Combo Guard that has some PG skills?

                      Does the Grizzlies run a half-court offense?

                      What other Teams currently run a half-court offense that we can maybe poach a PG from?
                      Calderon is mainly a P&R point guard and a spot up shooter. He's not a runner, he's more like Jason Kidd these days. Toronto in general is a slow half court team (and that's one of their problems imo -- too many mid range chuckers in half court, they should try to run more).
                      Calderon is bad defensively, but there are bright spots. He's been better the last few years and he's decent defending most 2s, he just can't guard smaller quick guys. So that's something that separates him from DJA. If used in a Kidd-type role next to someone who can defend point guards, he could be hidden in many situations.
                      Overall, I think he'd be a big improvement from DJA. But as you said, if we aren't going to resign him, it's rather pointless to give anything good. And I don't think they'd give him up without at least a pick or prospect.

                      Bayless I think is a pretty bad basketball player. I'd rather just sign Nate Robinson, if I had to choose between those two.

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                        Gasol attempts for 3 and he makes it. The D'Antoni effect is well established.
                        Never forget

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                          Dwight hits 2 big ones from the line in crunch time to push it out to a 4 point lead... crowd goes wild!

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                            Lakers are looking good, Nash makes a big difference.
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                              Nash is awesome, they look better on both ends.

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