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  • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

    Originally posted by Pacer Fan View Post
    What's the point of having a thread if you can't talk about the rumors? The other rumor thread shouldn't had been locked, maybe then we could talk in that one and leave this one for non talking. Post only rumor thread as it was designed to be in the first place.
    I agree, we need to be able to discuss legit trade rumors and the players involved. It's different when someone starts posting fantasy trade ideas.
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    • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

      Kaman would get some really solid playing time here. Not what he gets now, but Roy could use the break from time to time and we could afford to give it to him if we had Kaman here. I would love to have him if it was just for money or a 2nd rounder.

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        Originally posted by spreedom View Post
        I do think it's an awesome game. To get a near triple double from a center is impressive. To chalk it up to being a product of playing the whole game is stupidity.
        I gave his credit on the assists several times already that new career high is no doubt sweet from a center. But the 18-11 in 46 isn't something all that impressive. Tyler's top burn is 31:47 this year he got 15-13 in the game and in the 17 games he's broke the 30 min mark in his career he's at 20.3 and 8.3 and he's only got to or past the 38 min mark once and that game was just 40:16 and it was a 29 point game.

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        • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

          Originally posted by spreedom View Post
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          I've heard speculation that the Rockets may be willing to trade Lowry/Scola for Pau. I wonder if we'd get in the Gasol sweepstakes.
          From what I have read, the Rockets would part with anyone not named Lowry to get Gasol.

          This is likely one of the main reasons why no trade has happened. The Lakers want Lowry and th Rockets don't want to give him up.
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          • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

            Originally posted by CableKC View Post
            From what I have read, the Rockets would part with anyone not named Lowry to get Gasol.

            This is likely one of the main reasons why no trade has happened. The Lakers want Lowry and th Rockets don't want to give him up.
            Doesn't every team want the one player the other team refuses to give up?

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            • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

              Top Ten Stars Most Likely To Be Traded

              Impact Players Most Likely To Be Moved
              (Ranked from most likely to least likely to be traded)


              1. Rajon Rondo, G, Celtics
              I know the Celtics are saying Rondo isn't going anywhere. But there are two problems with that. (1) It doesn't jibe with what a number of NBA GMs are saying based on conversations they've had with Celtics president Danny Ainge. (2) Ainge isn't stupid. He doesn't want to trade Rondo, but Rondo is the best chip he has to play right now.

              If Ainge waits and does nothing, the Celtics will be a middling lottery team without much hope next season -- in the same spot where Ainge inherited them a few years ago. He doesn't want to go back there. If he can get two pieces back for Rondo, I think he'll do it. Atlanta, Portland and Indiana are interesting destinations if they are willing to pay.



              2. Josh Smith, F, Hawks
              Again, I know what the Hawks are saying. "We're not shopping anyone ... yada, yada, yada." The truth is, Rick Sund has been exploring possible Josh Smith deals for the past few years. If he could get a legit point guard and a credible forward to replace Smith, he'd do it. If the Celtics would offer Rondo, I think they'd have a deal. Ditto if the Suns would offer Steve Nash.



              3. Chris Kaman, C, Hornets
              It's no secret that Kaman is on the block. Given that the Hornets really don't want much in return, I'm surprised he hasn't found a home already.

              The Warriors, Rockets and Heat have shown a lot of interest. And with Jeff Foster still out in Indy, Kaman could be a great fit with the Pacers as well. He has no long-term future in New Orleans. This one is a no-brainer.



              4. Monta Ellis, G, Warriors
              Ellis is a dynamic scorer, but it just isn't working in Golden State and probably never will as long as Ellis and Stephen Curry are in the backcourt together.

              The Warriors really need a big man, which makes a deal tough because most GMs aren't willing to trade big for small. But if the Warriors would be willing to take back Amare Stoudemire from the Knicks or if the Hawks were willing to swap Smith for Ellis, I think there's a deal to be had.



              5. Pau Gasol, F, Lakers
              Gasol is playing better and so were the Lakers, until this week. That's got to hurt the chances that the Lakers move him for anyone other than Dwight Howard before the deadline. But the Lakers have to be looking at the Celtics and sweating a bit. They don't want to be the team that is on the verge of plummeting into lottery hell next season.

              Kobe Bryant won't be playing at this level forever, and neither will Gasol. Gasol can fetch the Lakers some good young assets now. In another year, I'm not sure we'll be able to say the same.



              6. Gerald Wallace, F, Blazers
              The Blazers balked a bit at moving Wallace at the start of the season, but they seem more open to it now. Nicolas Batum is their long-term answer at the small forward position, and they aren't really competing for a title.

              A few long-term assets might be all that's required to pry Wallace from Portland. I could see the Magic making a big push in this direction.



              7. Eric Gordon, G, Hornets
              Gordon was supposed to be the centerpiece of the Hornets' new rebuilding effort, but injuries have kept him out of the lineup for all but two games this season. With Gordon hitting restricted free agency this summer and preferring to play elsewhere, do the Hornets cut their losses and try to make a deal now while they can?

              The team has coveted New Orleans native Danny Granger in the past, and the Pacers would love to bring back one of Indy's own as well. It would be a risky move for the Pacers, as Gordon is still several weeks away from being ready to play. But it could be a great move long term.



              8. Dwight Howard, C, Magic
              Howard should be atop this list. All signs point to his leaving Orlando this summer if he makes it to unrestricted free agency, where the Nets and Mavs will throw money at him, and the Knicks and Lakers could find ways to get involved, too. Alas, Magic GM Otis Smith thinks he has a shot at keeping Howard and is telling GMs he won't move the All-Star big man before the deadline.

              While the offers the Lakers and Nets have put together for Howard won't blow anyone away, they are better than the zero Howard could leave the Magic with this summer.



              9. Deron Williams, PG, Nets
              If Dwight Howard makes his way to New Jersey, all is well. The Nets would re-sign both Williams and Howard, and suddenly have the best point guard-center combo in the NBA. But if Howard doesn't end up in New Jersey, the Nets will be in danger of losing Williams for nothing. After all they gave up to get him, that has to keep Billy King up at night.

              The problem for the Nets is they are paralyzed until they know what's happening with Howard. If the Magic move him to the Lakers or Bulls, Williams moves to the top of this list. If Howard isn't traded and remains on track to become a free agent, Williams will stay put.



              10. Steve Nash, PG, Suns
              The Suns continue to insist they're not trading Nash, which might be true. That's why Nash is at the bottom of the list. They even believe they have a chance at re-signing him this summer, which is a pipe dream.

              The Suns are no longer a playoff team and are on the verge of a major rebuilding project. While Nash has publicly supported the Suns, it doesn't make much sense for either party to keep the marriage alive. Nash is still playing like an All-Star and could have a chance at winning a title elsewhere.

              At this point, the Suns won't get much for him. His contract expires in a few months, and Nash has made it clear he'll shop the market. But if the Suns lose him for nothing? They would join the Cavs and Raptors as teams that let their fantasies get in the way of reality.
              Bolded the parts most interesting to Pacer fans.

              Danny+AJ for Kaman+Gordon+Vasquez or something would be interesting.

              Personally, too much risk. At least with Danny you know you're getting a guy that plays almost every game every season, and really stepped up against the Bulls in the playoffs. Gordon doesn't have much playoff experience, and is always hurt. Total gamble.

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              • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

                I don't see why Rondo made this list, Ainge went out and said last week that they are not trading him......

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                • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

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                  Three #NBA deals that make sense: Kaman to #Pacers, Hinrich to #Lakers, Crawford to #Twolves/#Grizzlies. Video: http://bit.ly/yCAq9v
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                  • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

                    The Kaman to Pacers thing seems so obvious that I think I'll actually be a little disappointed if we don't actually make that come true.

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                    • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

                      Originally posted by Hibbert View Post
                      I don't see why Rondo made this list, Ainge went out and said last week that they are not trading him......
                      That was addressed:
                      I know the Celtics are saying Rondo isn't going anywhere. But there are two problems with that. (1) It doesn't jibe with what a number of NBA GMs are saying based on conversations they've had with Celtics president Danny Ainge. (2) Ainge isn't stupid. He doesn't want to trade Rondo, but Rondo is the best chip he has to play right now.

                      If Ainge waits and does nothing, the Celtics will be a middling lottery team without much hope next season -- in the same spot where Ainge inherited them a few years ago. He doesn't want to go back there.
                      From what they say publicly, Rondo isn't available. Yet people involved say eh certainly is. And at this point they'll be lucky to get to the second round of the playoffs, no way they get any farther. Ergo, makes sense to capitalize on his value if you could sucker a team like Indy to give DC+PG+Pick.

                      Not saying I agree.

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                      • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

                        http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

                        Raymond Felton, Jamal Crawford and a few other Blazers have seen their names in the rumor mill and Crawford thinks the speculation could be affecting some of the players.

                        "I think at the end of the day, we're only human," said Crawford. "So no matter what somebody says, I'm sure it's in the back of their heads. They hear about the rumors and stuff. But we have to be professional and go out and do the best job we can."

                        Crawford's name has been linked with the Indiana Pacers and Minnesota. Portland could get Luke Ridnour back if Crawford is sent to the Wolves.

                        The Blazers are now 19-20 after losing at Minnesota on Wednesday and they have six more games on this road trip.
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                        first thing i've heard about us and crawford since his name started coming up in trade rumors.
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                        • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

                          I love the Kaman trade, BUT wouldn't this trade just for the remainder of this season. We aren't going to sign both Kaman & Hibbert next season. Kaman is a starter and will want starter money, as well as Hibbert. So what you give up now to get him is key. If I had to compare them, I would give Kaman the edge, but Hibbert is younger.

                          I like Gordon as well, but his injury history makes me say pass, too much history there to give up Danny for him now. I might try to sign him this Summer though. Thoughts?
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                          • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

                            Originally posted by PaulGeorge View Post
                            http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

                            Raymond Felton, Jamal Crawford and a few other Blazers have seen their names in the rumor mill and Crawford thinks the speculation could be affecting some of the players.

                            "I think at the end of the day, we're only human," said Crawford. "So no matter what somebody says, I'm sure it's in the back of their heads. They hear about the rumors and stuff. But we have to be professional and go out and do the best job we can."

                            Crawford's name has been linked with the Indiana Pacers and Minnesota. Portland could get Luke Ridnour back if Crawford is sent to the Wolves.

                            The Blazers are now 19-20 after losing at Minnesota on Wednesday and they have six more games on this road trip.
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                            first thing i've heard about us and crawford since his name started coming up in trade rumors.
                            I wanted Crawford this Summer and I would love to have him now. He can score and we need that. He can also play the point, but that's not where I want him ... but it's another option.
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                            • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

                              Originally posted by odeez View Post
                              I wanted Crawford this Summer and I would love to have him now. He can score and we need that. He can also play the point, but that's not where I want him ... but it's another option.
                              I really don't like having to send a player to portland just to sign him and watch him become a FA again. Could of signed him outright last summer and could sign him outright after this season. If we just send Lance or AJ I guess I could live with that as long as he signs an extension with us.
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                              • Re: Trade RUMOURS and NEWS thread March 2012

                                Call me crazy but I would not mind getting Boris Diaw, him coming off the bench could be perfect, his ability to move the ball and pass it could help the second unit offense, his is in an expiring contract so there wouldn't be that much of a risk, it would also leave the Pacers open to make other trades.

                                Yeah I was just looking at his numbers for the year:

                                7.7ppg 5.6rpg and 4.4apg not bad for a backup, if he can get him for free I think we should go get him.
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