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  • Re: Luck so far

    Originally posted by BlueCollarColts View Post
    Luck is on pace for 4,000+ passing yards, 23 TD's and 16 ints, along with a 56% completion percentage he is having a fine rookie season
    He is actually online for 18 passing TDs and 18 INTs. That is a fine season for a rookie QB but not for the number one pick and most "NFL ready QB in history."

    Looked at your way, RGIII is on pace for 28 TDs and 6 INTS, 67% completion percentage and 4518 total yards. That is why RGIII, not Luck will be the rookie of the year and it is why there really is no comparison of the two QBs. RGIII is far better right now. I think that gap will widen. I think Lucks numbers will come down and RGIII will stay on this pace or even a little better. Luck gets passing yards because he is chucking it more than any rookie QB in history..... He should get yards. RGIII is by far the more efficient QB...

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    • Re: Luck so far

      Originally posted by bunt View Post
      So those stats are fine and dandy but the stats from the NYTimes article aren't? Lol gotcha. Your credibility continues to go down (we've got to be close to the bottom) with you picking and choosing stats and lying about other things.

      I'm not picking or choosing anything. I quoted the NFL's stats and I think those are official....

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      • Re: Luck so far

        Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis View Post
        No, I watched the drops in slow motion, most of those "drops" were thrown behind them and they credited two "drops" when the receivers got blown up. That's not a drop; that's a standard incompletion. You could even argue that RG3 didnt "throw" them open enough, and thats why they got blown up. He has work to do, man, he's not this demi-God that the media is making him out to be. Been saying this.
        No. I watched the game. I listened to the broadcasters who marvelled at how RGIII kept making these perfect passes and his receivers kept dropping them. He didn't throw behind them. Sure he has work to do but he is exactly what everyone has been saying, a superstar. Been saying this...... RGIII will get better as the year goes on playing a tough scedule. Luck is going to back up some when he starts playing good defenses.....

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        • Re: Luck so far

          Originally posted by OlBlu View Post
          No. I watched the game. I listened to the broadcasters who marvelled at how RGIII kept making these perfect passes and his receivers kept dropping them. He didn't throw behind them. Sure he has work to do but he is exactly what everyone has been saying, a superstar. Been saying this...... RGIII will get better as the year goes on playing a tough scedule. Luck is going to back up some when he starts playing good defenses.....
          Chicago and Green Bay aren't good defenses?

          In case you really aren't a troll (bull***), I suggest you read this: http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8...rt-griffin-iii.

          Luck plays in the most vertical offense in the NFL -- and, no, that isn't his fault. He's "chucking it" because he has the ability to and because it will speed up his development -- and Arians knows this (it worked out pretty well for Peyton). That's not even to mention the abysmal line play and run game. If RGIII could throw 35-40 times a game, his stats would nosedive. And they may just yet. Even though ESPN's QBR backs up the statistical argument in Luck's favor, I'll suggest to anyone who still doubts to watch the Green Bay game again. The young man passes the eyeball test with flying colors, and it wouldn't exactly be a leap of faith to say he will be a top-three QB for a long, long time.

          By the way, wasn't it the consensus that Washington had the *much* better team going into this season? Yeah, about that record...

          I won't take away from RGIII, but there's no way in hell I regret the Colts' choice.

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          • Re: Luck so far

            Originally posted by kidthecat View Post
            Chicago and Green Bay aren't good defenses?

            In case you really aren't a troll (bull***), I suggest you read this: http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8...rt-griffin-iii.

            Luck plays in the most vertical offense in the NFL -- and, no, that isn't his fault. He's "chucking it" because he has the ability to and because it will speed up his development -- and Arians knows this (it worked out pretty well for Peyton). That's not even to mention the abysmal line play and run game. If RGIII could throw 35-40 times a game, his stats would nosedive. And they may just yet. Even though ESPN's QBR backs up the statistical argument in Luck's favor, I'll suggest to anyone who still doubts to watch the Green Bay game again. The young man passes the eyeball test with flying colors, and it wouldn't exactly be a leap of faith to say he will be a top-three QB for a long, long time.

            By the way, wasn't it the consensus that Washington had the *much* better team going into this season? Yeah, about that record...

            I won't take away from RGIII, but there's no way in hell I regret the Colts' choice.

            Green Bay is not a good defense. I had them in fantasy league and quickly dumped them. They are a bit better than last year but that is the biggest problem Green Bay has, the defense. Chicago is a good defense and you saw how they ate Luck up. I think RGIII would have better stats than Luck no matter how often they throw it because he adds a different dimension with his ability to run and he is just a more accurate passer with a much stronger arm than Luck. QBR is a ******** stat that is the only one you can find that ranks Luck high. I have seen no one but ESPN use it and announcers and television analysts do not use it. You have to be a top three QB once to be there for a long time. Luck has to be a top 25 QB first. RGIII is already in the top five. Yes, Washington has the much better team and they play in a tough division. I don't regret the Colts choice. I wouldn't want to have to see RGIII play behind that miserable line knowing it will take years to get better. Luck is not the choice that I regret. Bad franchises and the Colts are a bad franchise except for the Peyton years, always break down the team to rebuild. Good franchise just don't do that. They may come down a little for a year or two and then they are right back chasing a Super Bowl. Teams like New England, Green Bay, Pittsburgh and Baltimore stay close to the top all of the time. The reason is management. The Giants always tend to field a good team. The Colts are a mess right now and it is going to be years to rebuild it. By the time they get a defense and a line and replace the 25 or so players they need to replace, Luck will be long gone from the scene (and so will I) to be replaced by the next "sure thing".

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            • Re: Luck so far

              Originally posted by OlBlu View Post
              He is actually online for 18 passing TDs and 18 INTs. That is a fine season for a rookie QB but not for the number one pick and most "NFL ready QB in history."

              Looked at your way, RGIII is on pace for 28 TDs and 6 INTS, 67% completion percentage and 4518 total yards. That is why RGIII, not Luck will be the rookie of the year and it is why there really is no comparison of the two QBs. RGIII is far better right now. I think that gap will widen. I think Lucks numbers will come down and RGIII will stay on this pace or even a little better. Luck gets passing yards because he is chucking it more than any rookie QB in history..... He should get yards. RGIII is by far the more efficient QB...
              So RG3 is just going to get better and better while Luck will only get worse and worse, because Olblu says so. Lol, gotcha. The redskins team will only get better and better, despite having a mostly incompetent front office the past decade, because Olblu says so. And the Colts team will only get worse and worse because Olblu says so and because Jimmy Irsay hurt olblus feelings. Lol, gotcha.

              With all your lies and make believe you provide in these threads, you'll have to excuse us for taking zero stock in what you say. Now if you try to back yourself up with a radio show that nobody else in the world heard, or link us to articles that don't even mention what you say they do, or you link us to other anonymous blogs, that doesn't help your case Blu. Lol

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              • Re: Luck so far

                Originally posted by bunt View Post
                So RG3 is just going to get better and better while Luck will only get worse and worse, because Olblu says so. Lol, gotcha. The redskins team will only get better and better, despite having a mostly incompetent front office the past decade, because Olblu says so. And the Colts team will only get worse and worse because Olblu says so and because Jimmy Irsay hurt olblus feelings. Lol, gotcha.

                With all your lies and make believe you provide in these threads, you'll have to excuse us for taking zero stock in what you say. Now if you try to back yourself up with a radio show that nobody else in the world heard, or link us to articles that don't even mention what you say they do, or you link us to other anonymous blogs, that doesn't help your case Blu. Lol
                I am no longer going to respond to you after this post because of your name calling. What you are saying here is not true. I have supplied plenty of information for all of you. I don't give a rat's behind what you put stock in. I didn't even say what you quote. I was talking about this year. Luck has played some very weak defensive teams while RGIII has gotten his numbers against some very good ones. I think they will both improve but for this year, I think Luck's stats are going to slide when he plays Houston twice, Detroit and New England. RGIII will have some tough games but he is already used to that. The stats overwhelmingly show how much more efficient RGIII is.

                Mods: This poster is talking me from thread to thread disrupting those threads. He continues to call me a liar when it isn't true. I have stayed civil with him through it all. I am a tough old bird but this calling names is out of hand and it is against the forum rules. I try hard to stay in those rules. This poster does not. Please do something about it..

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                • Re: Luck so far

                  Originally posted by kidthecat View Post
                  Chicago and Green Bay aren't good defenses?

                  In case you really aren't a troll (bull***), I suggest you read this: http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8...rt-griffin-iii.

                  Luck plays in the most vertical offense in the NFL -- and, no, that isn't his fault. He's "chucking it" because he has the ability to and because it will speed up his development -- and Arians knows this (it worked out pretty well for Peyton). That's not even to mention the abysmal line play and run game. If RGIII could throw 35-40 times a game, his stats would nosedive. And they may just yet. Even though ESPN's QBR backs up the statistical argument in Luck's favor, I'll suggest to anyone who still doubts to watch the Green Bay game again. The young man passes the eyeball test with flying colors, and it wouldn't exactly be a leap of faith to say he will be a top-three QB for a long, long time.

                  By the way, wasn't it the consensus that Washington had the *much* better team going into this season? Yeah, about that record...

                  I won't take away from RGIII, but there's no way in hell I regret the Colts' choice.
                  I have about given up on the forum (around and around and around we go) but just for the record

                  1. We have played some good teams. Even if the teams aren't very good, like I have said for years "when you are having problems in any facet of your game just play the Redskins". Having an 0-fer season like Detroit? Play the Redskins and get your first win. Having problems with your defense? Play the Redskins like the Giants did a few years back when they won the SB and turn your season around. Having problems with your QB? Play the Redskins and they will make your QB look like a HOF player!

                  Of course a lot of this is changing with a new front office and a new coaching staff, but change takes time. Half of our roster is scrubs.

                  Which takes me to point 2.

                  2. We have lost half of our defense to injuries or suspensions. This especially hurt us with the loss of Orakpo and Kerrigan.

                  3. Lastly, we still have a rookie QB. He has done a lot better then I think anyone here in DC could have predicted, but he still has made mistakes. Oh yeah, and he has an OC who is hell bent on running a GD triple option

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                  • Re: Luck so far

                    Originally posted by vapacersfan View Post
                    I have about given up on the forum (around and around and around we go) but just for the record
                    As I'm sure you know, most of us don't really feel that way but are making these crazy RG3 hating arguments just for the sake of getting through Ol Blu's head. I wouldn't take any of it seriously.
                    Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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                    • Re: Luck so far

                      Originally posted by OlBlu View Post
                      I am no longer going to respond to you after this post because of your name calling. What you are saying here is not true. I have supplied plenty of information for all of you. I don't give a rat's behind what you put stock in. I didn't even say what you quote. I was talking about this year. Luck has played some very weak defensive teams while RGIII has gotten his numbers against some very good ones. I think they will both improve but for this year, I think Luck's stats are going to slide when he plays Houston twice, Detroit and New England. RGIII will have some tough games but he is already used to that. The stats overwhelmingly show how much more efficient RGIII is.

                      Mods: This poster is talking me from thread to thread disrupting those threads. He continues to call me a liar when it isn't true. I have stayed civil with him through it all. I am a tough old bird but this calling names is out of hand and it is against the forum rules. I try hard to stay in those rules. This poster does not. Please do something about it..
                      Lol. Well if I've done anything right on the interweb it is successfully getting on olblu's nerves.

                      You see the difference in you trolling this entire forum and me trolling you, is that I don't make up blatant lies that are so easily proven or disproven. Other than my comments that were obviously facetious, not me swearing by them as facts. Me going from thread to thread is just to get some clarity on some things you said...

                      - where are the hundreds of articles predicting MVPs and Super Bowls for RG3, not the ones that merely say he's playing great so far
                      - where is this radio show that had a coach make such denigrating remarks about Luck
                      - where are these betting lines that fluctuate so greatly from any other source that enables you to be up 5-2 on picking against the Jags each week
                      - why do your cherry pick stats count and others don't (QBR, NYTimes)
                      - you keep telling the few that are still paying attention around here that EVERYBODY thinks RG3 is the better player, the rookie of the year, and yet there have been more articles posted on here favoring Luck.

                      Yeah the moderators could do something about it, but there's only one way to get more posters to come back to the Colts forum and ultimately not leave PD altogether. I'll give you a hint, it ain't getting rid of me. Lol.
                      Last edited by bunt; 11-03-2012, 01:07 PM.

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                      • Re: Luck so far

                        For the record, and for me to post on topic without agenda...

                        I liken the real Luck-RG3 debate (not the one on here but for general fans) to the debate that always went on with Manning-Brady. Neither Luck or RG3 can hold Manning or Brady's jock yet. But when debating who's better, you couldn't really go wrong saying one or the other. The Manning argument was all the stats, for Brady it was the Super Bowls.

                        With Luck and RG3, the same principles apply yet because they're only 7 and 8 games into their careers, surrounded by completely different circumstances, teams, coaches, divisions, conferences and on and on, it's even harder to say one or the other. Just like the stats and Super Bowl arguments, you can pick the style, the flash, the stats of RG3, or you can pick the guy whose play and command of a team with 60% of the players that are new to the team that completely revamped their front office, coaching staff, and offensive and defensive systems. So even the 40% of holdovers are having to learn new schemes new positions. And on top of that, their leader is battling leukemia. Not a lot of precedent out there for this years Colts. And yet they're 4-3 in the thick of a playoff spot, regardless of how many games are left to play, which very few fans or experts would have imagined at any point this season.

                        So arguments can be made for Manning-Brady and Luck-RG3. The only way someone would be wrong is saying "without question, so and so is better than the other." Because there are A LOT of questions in this debate.
                        Last edited by bunt; 11-03-2012, 01:04 PM.

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                        • Re: Luck so far

                          Originally posted by bunt View Post
                          Lol. Well if I've done anything right on the interweb it is successfully getting on olblu's nerves.
                          For that, we thank you. OlBlu crying for the mods is priceless.

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                          • Re: Luck so far

                            He's asking for mods help, really?

                            Ugh, if they aren't doing anything about his retarded *** they aren't going to do anything about bunt, that's for sure. I haven't went off like travmil did, but to be honest I've been milling about the idea of just abandoning PD. I can't avoid this complete ****ing idiot even on ignore. It's so abudantly blatant what he's doing and nothing is done, for MONTHS.

                            SOMEONE needs to grow a nutsack and do what's necessary to keep people from jumping ship. It's already happened to one contributor who's been on the site for years. Can't imagine how many people stopped reading this place that never bother to say anything.

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                            • Re: Luck so far

                              Originally posted by xBulletproof View Post
                              He's asking for mods help, really?

                              Ugh, if they aren't doing anything about his retarded *** they aren't going to do anything about bunt, that's for sure. I haven't went off like travmil did, but to be honest I've been milling about the idea of just abandoning PD. I can't avoid this complete ****ing idiot even on ignore. It's so abudantly blatant what he's doing and nothing is done, for MONTHS.

                              SOMEONE needs to grow a nutsack and do what's necessary to keep people from jumping ship. It's already happened to one contributor who's been on the site for years. Can't imagine how many people stopped reading this place that never bother to say anything.
                              What they need to do is put people like you out of your misery for calling another poster an idiot. I don't care that you don't like my posts, hell, I don't like yours either.... But name calling should be out of bounds. It has not been easy for me to avoid responding in kind but I have not..... There is no reason for me to be suspended, I do not break the forum's rules..... I try my best to stay in bounds. You don't kick people out because they say things you don't agree with. You do remove them for being abusive or disrespectful or at least that is what should happen....

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                              • Re: Luck so far

                                Originally posted by xBulletproof View Post
                                He's asking for mods help, really?

                                Ugh, if they aren't doing anything about his retarded *** they aren't going to do anything about bunt, that's for sure. I haven't went off like travmil did, but to be honest I've been milling about the idea of just abandoning PD. I can't avoid this complete ****ing idiot even on ignore. It's so abudantly blatant what he's doing and nothing is done, for MONTHS.

                                SOMEONE needs to grow a nutsack and do what's necessary to keep people from jumping ship. It's already happened to one contributor who's been on the site for years. Can't imagine how many people stopped reading this place that never bother to say anything.
                                Exactly. And once they leave, it's very unlikely they come back. If they want this to be the premier Pacers forum, and they want to keep it that way, they need to do something besides sitting on their hands. Banning me or having others like yourself or travmil leave will come back and bite the moderators hard.

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