Dungy says he wouldn't hire Rex Ryan

[Basketball Fan]

get not wanting kids to see that but really its HBO a "Grown" network anyways.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/16/tony-dungy-disappointed-with-rex-ryans-profanity

Tony Dungy says he wouldn't hire Rex Ryan
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 16, 2010 12:14 PM ET
Jets coach Rex Ryan showed on the first episode of Hard Knocks that he can drop "F" bombs with the best of them. Tony Dungy would like to remind Ryan that just because the show is on HBO, that doesn't mean he needs to talk like Tony Soprano.

Dungy, who in 13 seasons with the Buccaneers and Colts was one of the most mild-mannered head coaches in NFL history, said on The Dan Patrick Show that he thinks Ryan ought to watch his mouth.

"I'm disappointed with all the profanity," Dungy said. "I think Rex can make his points without all that."

Asked if he would hire a coach who talks the way Ryan does, Dungy answered, "I would not. I personally don't want my players to be around that. I don't want to be around that. . . . It's hard for me to be around that, and if I were in charge, no, I wouldn't hire someone like that. Now, I've been around 'F' bombs, so it's not like it's new. I just don't think that has to be part of your every-minute, everyday vocabulary to get your point across."

Dungy thinks NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell would be wise to give Ryan a call and ask him to think about how he's representing the NFL.

"I would hope that he does," Dungy said of the possibility of Goodell getting involved. "I don't know that he will or not but I hope that he does because I just don't think the league needs that. I don't think our young people need to hear that that's what's done to be successful. Because it doesn't have to be that way."

Between Dungy and his own mother, Ryan may have been sufficiently chastened that he'll watch what he says even if he doesn't hear from Goodell. Or at least save his "F" bombs for when the microphones aren't around.

[Trader Joe]

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Why should the guy have to change the way he operates because of some cameras? If the NFL actually chastised him for swearing, shame on the NFL.

[Hoop]

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F Tony Dungy.

I've not heard many coaches over the years that didn't drop a lot of F bombs. Just nouns, verbs and adjectives, who really gives a F.

[Stryder]

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They're called sentence enhancers.

When using those words, your tongue begins to tingle. And it's great.

I drop F-bombs everyday while at work performing maintenance on analytical chemistry instrumentation. You'd be surprised at what comes out of a chemist's mouth sometimes, far worse than what you would hear Rex Ryan say.

[travmil]

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If Rex Ryan has the right to act like a blowhard *** on TV why does Dungy not have the right to voice his displeasure about it?

[Mr_Smith]

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F Tony Dungy.

I've not heard many coaches over the years that didn't drop a lot of F bombs. Just nouns, verbs and adjectives, who really gives a F.

F Rex Ryan and anybody like him

[Stryder]

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If Rex Ryan has the right to act like a blowhard *** on TV why does Dungy not have the right to voice his displeasure about it?

I'm not sure anyone (I'm not at least) arguing that he doesn't have the right to voice his opinion on the matter. I think the problem lies in that he is saying the league should step in and say something to Ryan.

[Basketball Fan]

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I'm not sure anyone (I'm not at least) arguing that he doesn't have the right to voice his opinion on the matter. I think the problem lies in that he is saying the league should step in and say something to Ryan.

Yep that to me is the crux of the issue here I mean if Tony doesn't like profanity people can respect that its him saying the NFL needs to step in and do something about it that I find bizarre.

[Bball]

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Tony has his way of coaching and Rex Ryan has his way of coaching... While each has the right to their opinions of the other, and even the right to express it, perhaps Tony should simply acknowledge Ryan's way isn't right for him and move on.

And the NFL should absolutely NOT influence Ryan's style at all, profane as it may be. When he's addressing the media... sure... they can have a talk with him if he doesn't maintain certain standards. But on the sidelines for reality TV? If they don't like what the mics are hearing and the cameras are seeing... get the mics and cameras away from the team.

[Since86]

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Yep that to me is the crux of the issue here I mean if Tony doesn't like profanity people can respect that its him saying the NFL needs to step in and do something about it that I find bizarre.

I don't know about you, but I can't cuss at work. I also have a dress code. The NBA can, and has, told players what they can and can't wear to and from the arenas. They also fine players for foul language.

It's nothing new.

[Basketball Fan]

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I don't know about you, but I can't cuss at work. I also have a dress code. The NBA can, and has, told players what they can and can't wear to and from the arenas. They also fine players for foul language.

It's nothing new.

Except that's not a good comparison. Because I'm sure your work place wouldn't allow people who have tested positive for drugs, been arrested, or charged with any felonies to continue working there either. Yet you still see it.

Rex was cursing a storm on an HBO TV show a show on cable that has adult content chances are the "F" word will be lobbied around. If the NFL didn't want that they wouldn't agree to a "Hard Knocks" show which really is about wanting the "gritty" aspect of a team. And foul language is usually a part of it. "Hard Knocks" would never want a team coached by Dungy because its too vanilla for their tastes.

Tony asking Goodell to step in and say its bad that he uses foul language to me is crossing the line especially since he's doing it on a TV show and not in front of kids or anything and its not even against the rules just against personal sensibilities. Nobody ever told Tony to stop reference God and that could be considered offensive as well after all religion and politics aren't allowed to be discussed in the work place either.

[Since86]

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Except that's not a good comparison. Because I'm sure your work place wouldn't allow people who have tested positive for drugs, been arrested, or charged with any felonies to continue working there either. Yet you still see it.

That's all true, but I wasn't making a point that all work places are the same and should have the same standards. I was saying that it's not uncommon, and actually is a very common practice.

There's a difference in "can" they and "should" they.

Tony asking Goodell to step in and say its bad that he uses foul language to me is crossing the line especially since he's doing it on a TV show and not in front of kids or anything and its not even against the rules just against personal sensibilities. Nobody ever told Tony to stop reference God and that could be considered offensive as well after all religion and politics aren't allowed to be discussed in the work place either.

See this is what is so interesting. We should have tolerance for Rex, but not for Tony.

It's a disagreement. Goodell will either act on Tony's advice or he won't. Tony isn't going "over the line" because, quite frankly, there is no line.

If Goodell thinks that the cursing is hurting the NFL, the Jets, or Ryan's image he will ask (or tell) him to knock it off. If he thinks it is but doesn't think it's a big concern, then he won't. Or if he just doesn't think anything of it, he won't.

Tony has every right to disagree with Ryan's choice of words. He has every right to think it should be restricted. Rex has every right to use those words, until or unless Goodell say's otherwise. Goodell has every right to choose who's right, between Tony and Rex.

I just think it's ironic that you want Tony to curb his thoughts/feelings because you don't agree with him that Rex should curb his thoughts/feelings.

[Basketball Fan]

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See this is what is so interesting. We should have tolerance for Rex, but not for Tony.

It's a disagreement. Goodell will either act on Tony's advice or he won't. Tony isn't going "over the line" because, quite frankly, there is no line.

If Goodell thinks that the cursing is hurting the NFL, the Jets, or Ryan's image he will ask (or tell) him to knock it off. If he thinks it is but doesn't think it's a big concern, then he won't. Or if he just doesn't think anything of it, he won't.

Tony has every right to disagree with Ryan's choice of words. He has every right to think it should be restricted. Rex has every right to use those words, until or unless Goodell say's otherwise. Goodell has every right to choose who's right, between Tony and Rex.

I just think it's ironic that you want Tony to curb his thoughts/feelings because you don't agree with him that Rex should curb his thoughts/feelings.

Uh no I think Tony should actually respect the fact that Rex has his own approach to coaching just like Tony has to his. You don't see Rex telling others what he feels may be inappropriate do you?

Nor is he asking the NFL commish to look into it either. Of course if Rex did he'd have more of a standing to do so than Tony since Rex is still an NFL coach Tony OTOH is not.

Tony's entitled to his opinion on not liking profanity I just don't think he should lobby TPTB of the NFL to step in.

[Slick Pinkham]

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I personally dislike Rex Ryan for being an arrogant lowdmouthed blowhard, but if he had been coaching the Colts for the past decade, then I think that they would have more than one SB ring.

[travmil]

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I personally dislike Rex Ryan for being an arrogant lowdmouthed blowhard, but if he had been coaching the Colts for the past decade, then I think that they would have more than one SB ring.

Wow. Maybe we should wait until Rex wins at least one as a HC before we throw out ridiculous "what ifs" about what he may or may not have accomplished with another team. Here's my ridiculous "what if" scenario. I think that if Rex Ryan had been coaching the Colts instead of Dungy, the Colts would have imploded under his leadership and missed the playoffs 6 times while all of their veteran leaders tuned him out and demanded trades. See? Mine holds just as much water as yours.