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Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

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  • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

    Would anyone with insider be able to post Ford's combine results?

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...Ford-Big-Board


    It would be appreciated.
    Why do teams tank? Ask a Spurs fan.

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      Draft WCS and Christmas and I'm a happy man.

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        Can you guys PLEASE get over Kaminsky?! PLEASE?!?

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          Originally posted by 31Since1990 View Post
          Can you guys PLEASE get over Kaminsky?! PLEASE?!?
          Why?

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            Originally posted by owl View Post
            I have been watching some of his video and I am intruiged.
            Why's that?

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              Who worked out for the Pacers today, and who is scheduled in the coming days?

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                Rakeem Christmas and Andrew Harrison has moved up into the top 6 of the 2nd rd out of the Pacers reach.

                Michael Qualls dropped into the Pacers 2nd rd range.

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                  Originally posted by Really? View Post
                  Yeah but I don't think there are many players in the NBA today that can shoot anywhere close to as good as Danny Green, I think there are way better comparisons that can be made as far as do it all players he could be like.
                  Well the other side of that comparison is that Danny Green was overlooked by a lot of people and I always said he would be a key player on a good NBA team. I feel the same way about Tokoto.

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                    Originally posted by Justin Tyme View Post
                    Rakeem Christmas and Andrew Harrison has moved up into the top 6 of the 2nd rd out of the Pacers reach.

                    Michael Qualls dropped into the Pacers 2nd rd range.
                    Why post movement in mocks? Kind of pointless, you can always say a player is on the rise...
                    Why so SERIOUS

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                      Originally posted by Dr. Awesome View Post
                      Well the other side of that comparison is that Danny Green was overlooked by a lot of people and I always said he would be a key player on a good NBA team. I feel the same way about Tokoto.
                      Yeah, I can understand that, only thing with Tokoto is the inconsistent scoring, wonder how much patience a coach will have with him, atleast Green's long range scoring and solid D out of college are not going to be a hindrance.

                      I hope Tokoto makes it though, he is a fun player to watch... Him with a shot could be pretty nice for a contending team, he is still only 21 and actually has shown to shot okay in small runs.
                      Why so SERIOUS

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                      • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                        Darrun Hilliard is already like Danny Green without a risk of needing to develop. I honestly have no idea why he's so lowly regarded in this draft.

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                        • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                          Chad Fords top 15 as of today

                          1 Karl-Anthony Towns COLLEGE: Kentucky
                          HT: 6-11 WT: 250 POS: C
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 10.3 RPG 6.7 BPG 2.3

                          Towns didn't show up to the combine. No interviews, no medical, no measurements, nothing. And his absence won't do anything to hurt his draft stock. In fact, of the roughly 100 NBA front-office people and scouts I spoke with over the past week in Chicago, all but a small handful of them had Towns as the No. 1 pick. Barring a late injury (see Joel Embiid last year) he's looking more and more like a lock to be the No. 1 pick.
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 1 | PLAYER CARD

                          2 Jahlil Okafor COLLEGE: Duke
                          HT: 6-11 WT: 275 POS: C
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 17.3 RPG 8.5 BPG 1.4

                          Okafor also skipped the combine completely. It was a small surprise given feedback from his camp that he's in the best shape of his life (an ongoing concern for scouts) and that he could've at least shown off a slimmed-down physique in testing. The scouts who still had Okafor No. 1 felt there was one team that might lean Okafor over Towns -- the Minnesota Timberwolves. Given that they have the best shot (25 percent) of landing the No. 1 pick on Tuesday, there's a chance that Okafor could still end up No. 1. Okafor will hold a workout for NBA teams in Santa Barbara, California, on Thursday. If he's really in great shape and shows more explosiveness, he'll help himself. I'll be in Santa Barbara to give a full report.
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 2 | PLAYER CARD

                          3 D'Angelo Russell COLLEGE: Ohio State
                          HT: 6-5 WT: 193 POS: PG
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 19.3 RPG 5.7 APG 5

                          Russell was the highest-ranked player on our Big Board to show up in Chicago. He did interviews with a couple of teams, went through the medical testing and did the measurements portion, where he measured an impressive 6-foot-5 with a 6-9.75 wingspan. Those are very good numbers for a point guard. And despite all the hand- wringing about his position, virtually every team I spoke with has him ranked as a point guard. "He's the most creative passer in the draft," one GM said. "The way he sees the floor is special. I have no doubt he'll be a point guard in our league." Russell is also one of the more impressive people you'll meet in the pre-draft setting. He's going to nail the interview portion. The Russell-Emmanuel Mudiay debate is still raging, by the way, but based on dozens of conversations I had with NBA front offices, it sounds like the majority (roughly a 60-40 split) have Russell ranked ahead of Mudiay. Thus, he's moved up one spot on our Big Board and depending on how the draft order falls Tuesday night, could go as high as No. 2.
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 4 | PLAYER CARD

                          4 Emmanuel Mudiay COLLEGE: China
                          HT: 6-5 WT: 195 POS: PG

                          Mudiay was actually the first player to announce he'd be completely skipping the draft combine. While GMs generally shrugged off the decision from Okafor and Towns, they were much more agitated about Mudiay. Why? Most of the key decision-makers in the NBA haven't seen him live. While he never was going to do 5-on-5, having the medical testing, measurements and interviews would've been really helpful. His decision clearly is affecting his draft stock as more than one GM asked how they could have him higher than Russell when Russell has done and proved so much more. There are still a handful of trusted, high-profile scouts who argue Mudiay is the second-best player in this draft. Said one, "Mudiay was regarded by everyone as a much better prospect than Russell this time last year. Russell went to Ohio State, was put into a lead role on a high-profile team, and wowed us. He's improved and we all saw it. But I suspect Mudiay improved too and we just didn't see it. We're judging Russell now versus Mudiay one year ago. This is such a huge developmental time for everyone; I suspect he's gotten better. When teams in the top five see him in workouts, their decision will get much harder."
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 3 | PLAYER CARD

                          5 Kristaps Porzingis COLLEGE: Latvia
                          HT: 6-11 WT: 220 POS: PF

                          10.8 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 32 percent 3-PT FG% | 21 MPG

                          Porzingis continues to be the wild card in this draft. Some teams have him ranked as high as No. 2 and No. 3 on their boards, while others have him in the eight to 10 range. The teams that have him high point to his unique combination of size, athleticism and skill. It's rare to find a 7-footer who can protect the rim, shoot the 3 and make high-IQ basketball plays. Teams that have him ranked lower worry about his thin frame and lack of rebounding in Spain. Porzingis will be coming to the U.S. in early June and will hold an NBA workout in Las Vegas on June 12. Once teams get to see him up close, in both this workout and in individual ones, I expect his draft status to firm up in the top five.
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 5 | PLAYER CARD

                          6 Justise Winslow COLLEGE: Duke
                          HT: 6-6 WT: 222 POS: SF
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 12.6 RPG 6.5 APG 2.1

                          Winslow drew rave reviews from NBA scouts for his interviews in Chicago. "He's one of the most impressive young men you'll meet in any draft," one GM said. His measurements, however, left a lot to be desired. Winslow measured just 6-foot-4.5 in socks (translates to 6-5.75 in shoes) -- that's a bit undersized for the position he's most well-suited for, small forward -- and could make him vulnerable to a late surge by Mario Hezonja. "You're drafting Winslow based more on what kind of kid and player he is and less on a particular basketball skill," one NBA GM told me. "And you're hoping the skill part comes based on his work ethic. It reminds me of Michael Kidd-Gilchrist a few years ago. The intangibles are outweighing some red flags on his game. The only difference is that Winslow is a better spot-up shooter than MKG. But the similarities are there."
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 6 | PLAYER CARD

                          7 Mario Hezonja COLLEGE: Croatia
                          HT: 6-7 WT: 200 POS: SF

                          4.7 PPG | 2.0 RPG | 39 percent 3-PT FG% | 15 MPG

                          After speaking with NBA scouts and GMs it's still very possible that Hezonja could end up being taken ahead of both Porzingis and Winslow. But will they draft him without the ability to work him out and interview him? Hezonja probably is stuck in Spain through the rest of the draft process because of his commitments to FC Barcelona. It's going to take a GM who is willing to take a risk to draft him above those two. But he has elite size and athleticism for his position, is a terrific shooter and plays with an intensity that few can match in this draft. "He's crazy," one GM said. "But I think it's a good crazy. The type of crazy confidence that elite players need. If he can keep that competitiveness under control and be patient, he's got a good shot to be one of the two or three best players in this draft in five years. He has that 'it' factor that several guys ahead of him don't."
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 7 | PLAYER CARD

                          8 Willie Cauley-Stein COLLEGE: Kentucky
                          HT: 7-1 WT: 242 POS: C
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 8.9 RPG 6.4 BPG 1.7

                          "He's different, man," one NBA GM said. "And I don't know we know what to do with that." That statement was repeated over and over again this weekend by NBA scouts and GMs after sitting with Cauley-Stein in interviews. That talent? NBA teams, almost universally, believe he has the chance to be a transcendent defender in the NBA. "He could be the best defender the league someday. He has abilities, both physically and the way he reads the defense, that I've never seen in a prospect." But his personality isn't that of your typical jock and NBA teams are trying to come to grips with it. He was grilled on why he dyed his hair blonde, why he legally changed his name to TRILL, whether he loved art more than he loved the game. Cauley-Stein was passionate in interviews that he loves the game and it's the most important thing to him. But virtually all the teams I spoke with had reservations. Sometimes serious ones. "The potential's there for him to be one of the two or three best players in the draft. The potential's also there for him to be Larry Sanders. From day to day, we keep going back and forth between the two." It will be fascinating to see where he lands. I could see him going as high as No. 6 to the Kings or as low as No. 11 to the Pacers.
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 8 | PLAYER CARD

                          9 Myles Turner COLLEGE: Texas
                          HT: 6-11 WT: 239 POS: PF
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 10.1 RPG 6.5 BPG 2.6

                          Turner showed up at the combine and nailed his interviews. "He's a highly intelligent, thoughtful guy," said one GM, and spent much of his time, along with his camp, quieting concerns about his biomechanical issues. NBA doctors got a look at him this weekend and if they say the same thing that Turner's doctors are saying (that his knees are fine, and that his running issues are pretty easily corrected), he's going to rise. I think he's the last player on the board who could end up cracking the top five. "He's a long 7-footer who can stretch the floor and really protect the rim," one GM said. "He was up-and-down as a freshman. He's not ready, etc. But the upside? It's big. People forget he was ranked No. 2 [in high school] for a reason. He has time to get better. But what Turner has you can't teach. I think there's some risk there, but the upside is tremendous." Turner will work out alongside Porzingis in Vegas on the June 12. A clean bill of health and a new, improved running gait should do wonders for his stock, according to multiple NBA GMs. "If that's all clean, he's a top-five guy for us."
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 10 | PLAYER CARD

                          10 Stanley Johnson COLLEGE: Arizona
                          HT: 6-6 WT: 242 POS: SF
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 13.8 RPG 6.5 APG 1.7

                          Johnson is the highest player on the board to hit the "safe" category. He has an NBA body and toughness, plays with aggressiveness and possesses an adequate jump shot. His lack of explosive athleticism and his struggles finishing at the rim this year are points of concern, but nothing that suggests he'll fail in the NBA. "He's not as good as we thought he'd be coming into things," one GM said. "But he's not as bad as I think we've made him out to be either." He'll work hard and if he improves, he'll be a very good value pick here.
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 11 | PLAYER CARD

                          11 Cameron Payne COLLEGE: Murray State
                          HT: 6-2 WT: 183 POS: PG
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 20.2 RPG 3.7 APG 6

                          Payne continues to draw serious interest to the point that he's getting several looks in the lottery according to multiple team sources. He was the highest-ranked player on our Big Board to go through athletic testing and shooting drills at the combine and tested well on both accounts. His length, solid athleticism and craftiness with the ball, combined with terrific interviews have him ranked as the third-best point guard in the draft by about 80 percent of the NBA folks I spoke with. Two teams I've heard are especially high on him in the lottery -- the Hornets and Pacers. The Jazz (if they decide to move Trey Burke) and Thunder also are possibilities in the lottery.
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 15 | PLAYER CARD

                          12 Trey Lyles COLLEGE: Kentucky
                          HT: 6-10 WT: 242 POS: PF
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 8.7 RPG 5.2 BPG .4

                          I was surprised by how consistently teams had Lyles ranked in the lottery (many in the top 10) this week. Especially when you ask them why and their answers sound a lot like this: "I'm not sure how good he can be," one NBA scout said. "But at his size and abilities, I think you have to seriously think about gambling on him earlier rather than later. He comes with more risks, but he's a sexier pick than Bobby Portis, I think." I get the feeling that teams aren't exactly sure what they have in Lyles, but as they look over the rest of the board, his upside is more appealing than anything that's left.
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 16 | PLAYER CARD

                          13 Devin Booker COLLEGE: Kentucky
                          HT: 6-6 WT: 206 POS: SG
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 10 RPG 2 APG 1.1

                          With the Splash Brothers continuing to shoot their way through the Western Conference playoffs, the need for shooting was a major point of emphasis from scouts this week. The NBA is a trendy league and right now the ability to stretch the floor is trending in NBA scout circles. Booker is widely seen as the safest bet to to do that, so much that a few teams told me he was in their top 10. Teams aren't necessarily sure that he'll be more than a terrific spot-up shooter, but his high basketball IQ and solid defense give them hope that he can be more -- especially after posting the best scores at the combine in both the lane agility (10.2 seconds) and shuttle run tests (2.75 seconds). But even if he isn't more than just a shooter, Booker's shot is so picture perfect that he should find his way into the lottery. Several teams -- including the Pistons, Hornets, Pacers, Jazz, Suns and Thunder -- are all looking for shooting. That gives Booker a lot of bites at the lottery apple.
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 19 | PLAYER CARD

                          14 Frank Kaminsky COLLEGE: Wisconsin
                          HT: 7-1 WT: 231 POS: C
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 18.8 RPG 8.2 BPG 1.5

                          Kaminsky didn't play at the combine, but he drew a lot of attention anyway for two reasons. One, he's a great interview. Everyone he spoke with came away impressed with his intelligence and personality. Second, he was the only player in the combine to measure with a shorter wingspan than height. His T-Rex status (big stature, little arms) is one of the reasons teams worry about him defensively in the NBA. While he was the tallest player (height-wise) of the players measured, a number of big men were taller when standing reach was measured. Some significantly. Nevertheless, if Kaminsky went to Miami, Indiana or Utah in the lottery it would surprise no one. If he slid down to the Bucks, I don't think that would be a strange outcome either. No. 10 to 17 seems like a very clear range for him.
                          PREVIOUS RANK: No. 13 | PLAYER CARD

                          15 Sam Dekker COLLEGE: Wisconsin
                          HT: 6-9 WT: 219 POS: SF
                          2014-15 STATS
                          PPG 13.9 RPG 5.5 APG 1.2

                          Dekker's athleticism shined in the lateral quickness drills at the combine. He ended up with the sixth-fastest time among the participants there. His vertical jump was a little disappointing (and no one was more disappointed than Dekker, who was begging to do it again), but I don't think it matters. It takes 10 minutes in the gym with him to know he's an elite athlete. The big question marks center on his shooting (see my scouting report on it from a workout I attended in Chicago here) and confidence. Was his lack of assertiveness a Bo Ryan issue or does Dekker think too much? The psych tests teams will give him over the next few weeks will get to the bottom of it.

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                          • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                            Chad Ford's latest Big Board is great. Seriously, he lists like half the guys in the 8-20 range as someone he wouldn't be surprised if the Pacers picked. Willie Trill (8), Cameron Payne (11), Devin Booker (13), Frank Kaminsky (14), Bobby Portis (16), Jerian Grant (17).

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                            • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                              So did everyone have a good to great interview or what?

                              I'm so glad I don't pay for ESPN insider anymore

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                              • Re: Official 2014-2015 NBA Draft Prospect Thread

                                Originally posted by Pacergeek View Post
                                Yes. He wasn't asked to score while at Kentucky, and he didn't mind not scoring points. People thought Anthony Davis might have problems scoring in the NBA because he wasn't much of a scorer in college. WCS isn't on AD's level, but don't assume that he cannot score

                                Just like don't assume Kaminsky can't play defense.

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