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    Just heard on ESPN that the Bulls are making a push to get Love. The Bulls are extremely deep now and might have some pieces to get it done if Minny wants to compete sooner rather than later. Gibson, Butler, Mirotic, Dunleavy would be enticing trade pieces. Can you imagine a Bulls roster of Noah, Gasol, Rose, and Love? They would immediately become favorites in the East.

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    I don't see why the Bulls offer could be any better than a potential Celtics or Cavs one. What is a rebuilding team gonna do with Taj Gibson or Mike Dunleavy? The Celtics can offer a bunch of draft picks (and don't even need to space them over two years because they have so many 1st rounders from other teams) and Kelly Olynyk, Jared Sullinger, or even Marcus Smart. The Cavs have four young top 5 picks to package together.

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    Just heard on ESPN that the Bulls are making a push to get Love. The Bulls are extremely deep now and might have some pieces to get it done if Minny wants to compete sooner rather than later. Gibson, Butler, Mirotic, Dunleavy would be enticing trade pieces. Can you imagine a Bulls roster of Noah, Gasol, Rose, and Love? They would immediately become favorites in the East.
    They seem to always have great teams on paper. Lets see if they can stay healthy for a week.

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    Just heard on ESPN that the Bulls are making a push to get Love. The Bulls are extremely deep now and might have some pieces to get it done if Minny wants to compete sooner rather than later. Gibson, Butler, Mirotic, Dunleavy would be enticing trade pieces. Can you imagine a Bulls roster of Noah, Gasol, Rose, and Love? They would immediately become favorites in the East.

    Only three of those guys can be on the floor at a time. You rolling with Snell and Hinrich in crunch time?

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    I don't see why the Bulls offer could be any better than a potential Celtics or Cavs one. What is a rebuilding team gonna do with Taj Gibson or Mike Dunleavy? The Celtics can offer a bunch of draft picks (and don't even need to space them over two years because they have so many 1st rounders from other teams) and Kelly Olynyk, Jared Sullinger, or even Marcus Smart. The Cavs have four young top 5 picks to package together.
    Didn't know the Celtics had even contacted Minnesota. Are they even interested?

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    Only three of those guys can be on the floor at a time. You rolling with Snell and Hinrich in crunch time?
    None of this is MY opinion. I just know the media will anoint then favs in the East if this goes down.

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    Butler is pretty much their only decent wing, Dunleavy is ok at best, and will be 34 when the season starts, Snell isnt that good, and i'm not in love with McDermott. Their wing situation is worse than ours.

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    Butler is pretty much their only decent wing, Dunleavy is ok at best, and will be 34 when the season starts, Snell isnt that good, and i'm not in love with McDermott. Their wing situation is worse than ours.
    Way too early to call on McDermott. He has been destroying Summer league although I know that doesn't always mean much.

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    at that offer. Come on.

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    They also have a good coach in Thibodeau yeah this could be bad for us.

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    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...-as-wednesday/

    Report: Cavaliers to sign Andrew Wiggins as early as Wednesday

    We passed along the report a couple of days ago that the Cavaliers were expected to sign Andrew Wiggins to his rookie contract sometime this week, and discussed at the time how that may or may not impact any trade talks Cleveland has going with the Timberwolves on a potential deal for Kevin Love.

    The only thing that’s changed since then is that we may have a firm date for Wiggins to be signed, and it could be as early as Wednesday.

    From Tom Withers of The Associated Press:

    A person familiar with the negotiations says the Cavs will sign the No. 1 overall pick to his deal, an agreement that would prevent any potential trade involving the small forward from being completed for 30 days.

    Wiggins has been linked to a possible trade with Minnesota for All-Star forward Kevin Love. The person familiar with the talks says Wiggins will sign with Cleveland as early as Wednesday. The person spoke to The Associated Press on Tuesday on condition of anonymity because the team is not commenting on its plans.

    Signing Wiggins wouldn’t necessarily take him out of trade talks for Love; it would merely delay the earliest date when the transaction could be completed. But a trade for Love involving Wiggins could still be agreed to before then, just as free agent signings are during the moratorium period in the early days of July.

    Reports have conflicted on whether or not Wiggins has been made available in a deal for Love — we’ve heard that both he and Anthony Bennett could be dealt, and we’ve heard Cavaliers head coach David Blatt say that Wiggins is “not going anywhere,” as well.

    Obviously, it remains to be seen whether Wiggins might be traded, or even if the Cavaliers are able to put together a strong enough package to entice Minnesota to part ways with Love at all — especially now that the Bulls have re-entered the picture. But either way, it looks like Wiggins will be under contract with Cleveland beginning this week.

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    Jimmy Butler and Taj Gibson are real nice players, but neither one is a bonafide star. I'd rather take the chance that Cavs' Wiggins could be.

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    None of this is MY opinion. I just know the media will anoint then favs in the East if this goes down.
    Sorry, wasn't saying you as in you. Just in general.

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    who will start out of Love, Gasol and Noah?
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    who will start out of Love, Gasol and Noah?
    If they get Love, Love and Noah would be the front court.

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    Just heard on ESPN that the Bulls are making a push to get Love. The Bulls are extremely deep now and might have some pieces to get it done if Minny wants to compete sooner rather than later. Gibson, Butler, Mirotic, Dunleavy would be enticing trade pieces. Can you imagine a Bulls roster of Noah, Gasol, Rose, and Love? They would immediately become favorites in the East.


    Sucks for Gibson. He was told he'd be starting next season. Looks like he'll be starting for Minnesota instead.

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    The Bulls are not trading their 4th, 5th and 6th best players for Kevin Love. Why would anyone take this seriously?

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    The Bulls are not trading their 4th, 5th and 6th best players for Kevin Love. Why would anyone take this seriously?
    Well...obviously the Bulls are taking it seriously. Don't know EXACTLY what's on the trade table, I was just reporting what ESPN was speculating COULD be on the trade table.

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    The Bulls are not trading their 4th, 5th and 6th best players for Kevin Love. Why would anyone take this seriously?
    I think you are underestimating Taj Gibson a bit, not saying the trade is going to happen, but Gibson is a very good player, and he averaged 18+ ppg in the playoffs for the Bulls. Nikola Mirotic is an interesting long term prospect as well.

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    Only three of those guys can be on the floor at a time. You rolling with Snell and Hinrich in crunch time?
    To be fair right now we are rolling with Hill & Miles at crunch time, is that really any better?


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    A very good player that's started 13 games over the last 3 seasons because he couldn't beat out the legendary Carlos Boozer....

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    To be fair right now we are rolling with Hill & Miles at crunch time, is that really any better?
    Yes

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    Yes
    Why? Without using our blue & gold colored glasses.


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    Why? Without using our blue & gold colored glasses.
    Well, Miles is better than Snell, I mean, Snell hardly even played last season so I don't think there is an argument over Snell being better than Miles, at least not yet. As for Hill vs Hinrich, I am not sure when this Hill isn't a good player perception came in but Hill is a very good player, when Lance was a 5th option Hill averaged 14.2 ppg 4.7 apg and 3.7 rpg on about 45% shooting, and was one of our more successful crunch time players. We should expect at least those numbers once again, and probably more since Hill will be handling the ball much more. Hinrich is an ok player, but he shot less than 40% from the field last season, and is 33. There should be no debate Hinrich is even close to as good as George Hill is. I am perfectly fine with rolling George Hill out in crunch time because Hill is a very talented scorer who took a back-seat FOR ONE YEAR HERE, and now everyone acts like he is not capable of ever being aggressive again. Hill has hit many clutch shots in his career, most notably the Portland game tying 3 last season, and the notion that Hill isn't a good NBA player, or isn't good enough to be out in crunch time needs to end, because it is not accurate.


    I would also like to add that imo, Hinrich and Snell isn't even close to as good as Hill and Miles.
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    Well, Miles is better than Snell, I mean, Snell hardly even played last season so I don't think there is an argument over Snell being better than Miles, at least not yet. As for Hill vs Hinrich, I am not sure when this Hill isn't a good player perception came in but Hill is a very good player, when Lance was a 5th option Hill averaged 14.2 ppg 4.7 apg and 3.7 rpg on about 45% shooting, and was one of our more successful crunch time players. We should expect at least those numbers once again, and probably more since Hill will be handling the ball much more. Hinrich is an ok player, but he shot less than 40% from the field last season, and is 33. There should be no debate Hinrich is even close to as good as George Hill is. I am perfectly fine with rolling George Hill out in crunch time because Hill is a very talented scorer who took a back-seat FOR ONE YEAR HERE, and now everyone acts like he is not capable of ever being aggressive again. Hill has hit many clutch shots in his career, most notably the Portland game tying 3 last season, and the notion that Hill isn't a good NBA player, or isn't good enough to be out in crunch time needs to end, because it is not accurate.
    Snell is an athletic two way player, not nearly the shooter Miles is but has the potential to be Jimmy Butler like on the defensive end. He's had a monster summer league but we can all agree and just say "yea but its the summer league". But he is a decent rebounder, physical defender and not a horrid shooter.

    Miles is a better shooter to be sure but I'm not sure he does everything else the way that Snell can.

    I like Hinrich, he is a physically tough player. However you are correct he is getting long in the tooth. But he is still a solid point guard who can run an offense better than Hill can IMO because of his ability to make entry passes better.

    However what I am saying is that even if I give you both of our players being a little better than theirs, I don't btw but let's pretend I do, then really is our unit so much better as to feel comfortable going into crunch time with either lineup?

    Personally I say no.


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