The east has a lot of talented teams, it'll be a tight race. Having Chicago and a reloaded Cavs team in our division is tough and will hurt our record slightly.
Yeah do think there is potential that CLE, CHI and IND all reduce each other's wins by 3-4.
Rosters are not set and will not be until the start of the season.
If CLE trades for Love, then that changes everything. If IND continues to shop Roy and sends him off then that changes everything. CHI is supposedly still looking at making moves. We don't know the actual status of D. Rose in CHI, we have heard for two seasons that he will return, so if he does, that could change things.
This thread is way too early.
If we had finished strong then I would be optimistic about next season but we didn't. The team's weaknesses were exposed for all to see and now we have lost probably the guy with the second best upside. There is just no way we can predict how Roy will respond at this time and especially in the playoffs when things become a lot more intense.
We have brought in a number of marginal guys but the real problem is to figure out a way to maximize the strengths and talents this team has and to bring in some coaches who can provide strategies that will help win games. When Larry coached he had some very good coaching personnel but for some reason Vogel doesn't. There is just a ton of inexperience within the coaching staff.
Cleveland will also probably have an advantage during the regular season with their non-division eastern conference opponents, usually non-playoff teams will play other non-playoff teams more the following season.
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The only Pacer I'm super worried about is West. He is due for either a huge drop in efficiency or an injury, maybe both. I hope I'm wrong. But his mobility has decreased significantly and he showed that he can struggle with effort on the offensive end last year, not to mention the other side of the court. Inefficient West + ineffective Scola + assiduously stubborn rotations = even more scoring woes.
Tough to be certain or even semi-certain about anything in the East this year though. One of the eight teams continually being mentioned in this thread won't make the playoffs. Something always interferes. My guess is either one of Toronto or Washington. They are BLB franchises.
A year ago ESPN asked if the Knicks could win the title...now they ask if the Knicks can make the playoffs
which makes this thread too early if people are changing their stance multiple times before the season starts.
The title of this thread should have been "I still believe the Pacers are #1 in the East without Lance, who else is with me?"
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I am not sure that this thread is too early. I mean, how many difference making dominos are left that have not fallen? Cleveland is going to be really good no matter what happens with Kevin Love and everyone else has made their significant moves of the offseason. Speculation at this point is fair game.
If the Cavs trade for Kevin Love, then they're number one in the East. If they do NOT acquire Kevin Love, then this will what the East will be in my opinion:
Derrick Rose Unlikely to Play Full season for Chicago Bulls
This should make a difference somewhat for us in the central. Still a tough team regardless....
70 Games Max
According to Moke Hamilton of Basketball Insiders, even if D.Rose can get himself back to full fitness for the course of the season, the Bulls will still make it so that he misses a good chunk of the season.
Getting Rose on the court for 70 games may be the target for the Bulls, but we should all be waiting to see if he can get through ten matches, never mind 70.
Rose is looking to bounce back from two straight disappointing seasons, in which he has only played a total of 10 games. The former MVP missed the entire 2012-13 season due to a torn ACL in his left knee and only played in 10 games last season after sustaining a torn medial meniscus in his right knee.
The 25-year old now has to show that he can get back to his best or just become another guy who will rue injuries for the rest of his career.
The former Memphis standout was also named to the 19-man USA Basketball pool, who will train for the upcoming 2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup in Spain.
Chicago are looking at this season with a lot of hope as the team went out and added two huge pieces to their team and cut out an expensive one in Carlos Boozer.
All of this was an attempt to finally field a championship worthy roster and the additions of Pau Gasol and Nikola Mirotic have gotten fans excited about this upcoming season. But while the new additions are nice, the Bulls need Derrick Rose to be able to walk five steps without screwing up his knees — which is apparently a lot easier said than done.
I've been talking friends off of cliffs all week. I'm going to miss rooting for lance as much as the next guy, and I will concede we lost a good young talent for nothing. But I believe 100% that Cj miles is a better fit in the starting lineup and on the team. Not only will the pacers NOT regress, they're going to be better next year. I think the east is wide open next year and I'm pumped to see this team play together as constructed.
I hesitate doing this because I don't think the rosters are set, as Chicago just resigned Hinrich. Monroe and Bledsoe are still out there for the Hawks to grab.
Chicago will be number if they are healthy, I just don't think they will be. I really think Lebron will be in the ECF. They will either have a slow start or a trade will slow them down. Kyrie gets injured as well. The Hawks will be better and could even climb top three in the conference. The Wizards as well. ALthough I think they will miss Ariza's defense. Toronto slips because Lowry got a contract and he will be injured a lot because of it. Miami will be better than people give them credit for.
Seriously though I think Wade will be better than the previous 4. He and Bosh will pick and pop teams into oblivion. Deng and Granger will give them solid defense and Battier clones in this system. Deng being a better one.
The Hornets are interesting. They lack the three ball. If their lineup of Kemba/Lance/MKG/Vonleh(Zeller)/AlJeff logs too many minutes I think their offense will be worse than the Pacers. Their defense will be good. I can't wait to see Lance and PG go at it.