"They want to be famous. We want to be champions. They want to be rappers and backup dancers. We want to play football." - T.J. Ward, Denver Broncos
Grimp, what do you mean by jump shot? Lavoy has a career average of .350 from 10-16 ft, and that percentage has gone down every year he has been in the league. Ian in comparison has a career average of .353 (with two of those seasons being .471 and .500) from that range. His 16 to 3PT is better than Ian's, but it is still just .342 vs .325.
P.S. I think Vogel needs to go look at how Dallas used Ian offensively since he shot 55.6% while with Dallas, including 48.8% from 10 to 16 feet.
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Time for a new sig.
shooting averages by distance:
“Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.
What if someone from a school of business or management school were to ask, How did you do this? How did you get the Pacers turned around? Is there a general approach you've taken that can be summarized?
Larry Bird: Yeah, patience.
About the Lavoy Allen love, I get it. He has the potential type game that would fill a complimentary need that allows other guys to do other things well. He is one of the few real potential rebound guys who could control the boards on defense and get extra possessions. We miss a Jeff Foster type or really a DD type. He has alot of holes in his game to be a regular so far, but I see the attraction, for sure.
I'd like to see lavoy play at the 4 for us, though.
Time for a new sig.
Why so SERIOUS
Stuckey is a guy that really does interest me. He has always been a thorn in our side I feel, and I think he may be playing below his potential. We are the franchise that can mold a guy named Lance, who 90 percent thought would be out of the league in no time, into a pretty good player. I don't know what attitude Stuckey has, but he has similar tools and size compared to Lance, so there is no reason he can't buy in and put in the work and have a career year here and maybe even a longer home. If he can have a career year then I feel that we can possibly win a title. Still though his 3 point shooting is atrocious at times, but so was Lance's at one point. Not saying Stuckey is the answer, or he can learn to shoot still, or have a career year here, just that he has the chance to and I hope he does. CJ Miles just doesn't seem to have that raw talent to be a good two way player. Seems more like a bench guy to me who is a good but streaky three point shooter. I think this is Stuckey's last chance and at this point he is the penciled in starter next to PG and hopefully he at least comes through for a bigger payday even if it is somewhere else. If we can win it all with Stuckey and Miles replacing Lance, then I'm fine with that and the Lance wounds will be healed. We were the best team in the NBA last year for a long time and it wasn't until something happened that it all imploded. If Lance really was the problem then this team should pick up where it left off and Stuckey and Miles should assimilate well into such a good team.
Meh, I don't know that anyone saw Stuckey being this good. The concerns were real, but kudos to Rodney for buying in.
I think the whole Mahinmi vs. Lavoy as a backup center debate on this thread from July can be put to rest now.
I'm gladly eating crow.
Just got home, for the amount they signed him for its a good signing. A 14ppg scorer in 26 minutes per is good production. I like the fact he bullies defenders on offense and goes to the basket strong. Whichever one starts Miles or Stuckey the other should provide instant offense off the bench- that is if Frank ever learns how to use a bench. Unlike most bench players we've signed of late these 2 are use to coming off the bench.
Those were my statements the day of the signing. So far even the part about if Frank learns how to use the bench have all come about. Now hopefully the Pacers resign him this off season.
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