Sorry, I just don't see the Pacers as a top 4 team next year with the present roster. Too many good teams in the West and maybe a couple in the East. The loss of Stephenson will hurt, but other teams will have gotten better. Too many ifs and varibles to me to feel the Pacers can be a top 4 team next year. A playoff team, sure, not a overall top 4 team. Top 4 in the EC, yeah.
They play of an older DWest.
Hibbert's game and his mental ability.
G Hill's PG ability.
Vogel's coaching. Offense and bench usage.
Bench depth and play.
Possible injury/injuries to key player/players.
I have to vote NO. More in tune with looking towards the next phase.
Man this board is friggin nuts... Nearly 3/4 of you have hurled yourselves over the cliff while holding a 100lb anchor... Pathetic really... I feel like this is a mirror image of the Heat message boards where all of the bandwagon fans are jumping off... Dont let the door hit you on the ***... Lance is had no desire to remain a Pacer... SMDH...
Abba Zaba, your my only friend.
I believe this moment right here will be one that haunts the Pacers for a long time.... because I believe Lance WILL indeed become a multi year all-star and play at an all star level for most of his career... We will always look at this moment as the time where Larry was being a stick in the mud and not getting Lance inked to a deal.... Just my personal opinion...
I normally ONLY watch Pacers basketball.... but
I know one thing is for damn sure..... Charlotte just got 2 new fans ... Because both myself and my mother will watch Lance play on the Hornets from now on... As he is both our favorite player to watch ... When we play Charlotte of course I am gonna root for Blue & Gold to win... but I will root for Lance to do some spectacular stuff out on the court to rub it in the Pacer's FO face that they screwed up ....
just my 2c
"They want to be famous. We want to be champions. They want to be rappers and backup dancers. We want to play football." - T.J. Ward, Denver Broncos
How is it doom and gloom to think the Pacers will not be one of the top 4 teams in the NBA next year, when this year they likely would not have been one of the top 4 teams in the Western Conference?
The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).
I'm (maybe) back after being repetedly banned, merely for supporting a different NFL team than do certain forum moderators.
There's only 2 choices in the poll, and the more negative one is in the minority. It stands to reason that the people who think we are going to miss the playoffs will have voted for that option, and they are a minority regardless of whether the true number is 10% or 100% of the voters for that option.
I never said I thought everybody voting for the 2nd option was a doom and gloomer.
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Time for a new sig.
On paper, we are a worse team without Lance. Our top two players, West and PG, are a good top 2, but other teams in the east have better top 2 options. Cleveland, Miami, Chicago if healthy, Washington, Toronto can match up with us
Being unable to close out a game in which you have a comfortable lead in the 4th Q = Pulling a Frank Vogel
Hey, that point wasn't dumb.
Roy needs to focus on defense and take what is available on offense. We shouldn't be forcing the ball to Roy, like he wants. If Roy can't hold post position and catch the ball he shouldn't get the ball.
Plus, there is no reason to further derail this thread. If you truly want to learn my opinion on this you're free to PM me.