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    Get trade exception in S&T for Lance
    Can't do a sign and trade after the player has already signed....which Lance has.

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    OJ Mayo is bound to bounce back.

    Plus he has 2 more years left which is a perfect situation for us.

    Sign a backup center at minimum salary.
    Mayo is most likely on our radar. Almost every year, we were interested in him and IIRC we almost had him at 2 separate occasions.

    I would not trade Ian and Scola for him (that's 2 serviceable big men with decent contracts).

    If we can pick up Mayo (remember, our low point was lack of scoring which Mayo can cure), I hope our line up would look like this:

    Stuckey/Watson
    Mayo/Hill/Miles
    PG/S Hill
    West/Scola
    Hibbert/Mahinmi

    I remember Stuckey played a lot of PG in Detroit and he played well. G Hill would more back to his 6th role as a PG/SG
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    I doubt that the Pacers have any interest in Mayo at all. His lack of professionalism and unwillingness to even get into shape to play for Milwaukee makes him totally unreliable. That kind of player is the last kind of guy a team looking to win needs.

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    Mayo is most likely on our radar. Almost every year, we were interested in him and IIRC we almost had him at 2 separate occasions.

    I would not trade Ian and Scola for him (that's 2 serviceable big men with decent contracts).

    If we can pick up Mayo (remember, our low point was lack of scoring which Mayo can cure), I hope our line up would look like this:

    Stuckey/Watson
    Mayo/Hill/Miles
    PG/S Hill
    West/Scola
    Hibbert/Mahinmi

    I remember Stuckey played a lot of PG in Detroit and he played well. G Hill would more back to his 6th role as a PG/SG

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    I'm gonna make a fair guess that until the 2016-2017 season....basically 2 seasons from now....at most, we will be making 1 to 2 year offers, and/or trades. I think that in the 2016-2017 offseason....we will be making a run at some of the UFA Free Agent Class of 2007. I doubt that we will be getting the top FA that season.....but I can see the Pacers making a run at other solid Players in that draft class. What does that translate into? Likely Playoff exits in the 1st or 2nd round of the EC.
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    HaHa....I see what u did there.
    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    If he is in shape Mayo would be a good option, but if not let's roll with what we got and see how things go before we go into panic mode for a trade.

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    Am I the only one who would prefer Rodney Stuckey/CJ Miles duo to OJ Mayo? Isn't he like overweight now or something?

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    Am I the only one who would prefer Rodney Stuckey/CJ Miles duo to OJ Mayo? Isn't he like overweight now or something?
    I kind of agree with you, however, I prefer GHill/Miles and Stuckey/Watson over OJ. I still say Stuckey is better at PG.

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    Dragic is the most exciting point guard out there. We probably could have gotten him back when he was with Houston. I was advocating that back then, but most on this forum gave him little credit then. Now we can't afford him.

    However, we do not need the most exciting point guard, just one that a good assist-to-turnover ratio and a good assists number for the playing time he has had. That man is Shelvin Mack. We should be able to get him somehow.

    It is time to look for a pre-star we can afford.

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    I think there are no more moves. I think the next move is only if a premier true Point becomes available, even then you don't really have trade assets until next year with expirings. Even then youcould wait until the following year and just sign one outright with the new TV contract and available cap room you'd have plenty of room, all things being equal.

    I can't see how they make a major move with really no good assets to offer.

    I think if they suck, that they can start to rebuild differently around the trade deadline and concede this year.

    I don't think they'll suck. At worst they'll be in the mediocre slot, which is not good.

    In summary, I think the plan is to rebuild in 2016 around Paul with a premier Point Guard. And ride this core group out while trying to compensate for the loss of Lance.

    I honestly don't see they have much choice, atm, unless your into making trades for pennies on the dollar.

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    Next Move:

    Pre seaon training camp.

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    Am I the only one who would prefer Rodney Stuckey/CJ Miles duo to OJ Mayo? Isn't he like overweight now or something?
    No, I don't think the Pacers have any reason to go after OJ Mayo. He has shown himself to be unprofessional in the way he's refused to get into shape last season. Teams that want to win don't have any need for that kind of lazy self-centered player.

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    I kind of agree with you, however, I prefer GHill/Miles and Stuckey/Watson over OJ. I still say Stuckey is better at PG.
    You might want to go back and read some of Kstat's posts about Stuckey's lack of passing ability and court vision. Just being able to handle the ball is not the only skill a PG should have. Detroit has tried to make Stuckey into some kind of PG pretty much every other season with no success. Every new coach they get seems to think Stuckey can play some point and so far it's always turned out they were wrong.

    Getting clever with Stuckey's role here is not the answer. Giving him a specific job on the team is the answer. SG off the bench, scorer, push the ball. Let him use the strengths of his game, not the weaknesses.

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    I think if you called OKC about Jackson they would probably want David West. And according to our FO, he is nearly untouchable. And if we were going to trade West, I'm not sure we couldn't do better than that.

    Otherwise I think they would be fine with sliding Westbrook to the 2 to replace Thabo and seeing what happens.

    I'd do Jackson for West if a third team comes in and offers a replacement for him. OKC has no PF's of value.

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    I'd do Jackson for West if a third team comes in and offers a replacement for him. OKC has no PF's of value.
    A backup point guard for a cornerstone piece on a championship contending team. Of course you would do this.

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    Yeah no power forwards of value except for Serge Ibaka, a top 7 to 10 power forward in the league.

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    I think Mayo would be motivated in a winning situation. I wouldn't mind dealing for him. I'm only really concerned by the effort he gives here.

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    Mayo...good lord people
    Here we come lottery?

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    Mayo...good lord people
    The only player to ever get more unearned love on Pacers Digest was Magnum Rolle, and I am pretty sure that was only because his name was Magnum and not because people had any visions of grandeur for him.

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    The only player to ever get more unearned love on Pacers Digest was Magnum Rolle, and I am pretty sure that was only because his name was Magnum and not because people had any visions of grandeur for him.
    I think you mean Eric Gordon.
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    What can I say, I like Mayo.

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    What can I say, I like Mayo.
    Larry did as well a few years ago as well. Personally I believe that Mayo's ineffectiveness on a good team in Dallas two years ago and his inability to avoid buffets last season probably soured Bird on Mayo.

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    I'd still take OJ Mayo in the right deal. I'm sure he was all kinds of motivated last year being on the worst team in the league that was obviously tanking. A winning culture and leaders like West, Hill, and George could change his ways.

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    I think you mean Eric Gordon.
    No, I mean OJ Mayo.

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