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    Default Re: Lance Stephenson to sign with Charlotte- 3 years $27 million

    Yeah because we need soft nice guys like Roy Hibber and George Hill... Lance played hard every game and brought this team many victories... seems like a lot of pacert fans care more about personality than winning... truth is you no one knows how these guys are in real life... I worked for the Pacers.. Ron Arrest was one of the nicest guys I've ever met..andReggie was an *******...loosing a competitor like lance is really going to hurt this team... but at least we got G Hill... *** on man

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    Well, enjoy your time on Hornets Digest.
    Is that supposed to be funny?
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    Only if more fans understood this fact

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    Include me in the group of people who wanted Lance back, but can't fault the Pacers front office for this one. It does make it a little easier to swallow knowing there's probably nothing the Pacers could have done short of ridiculously overpaying.

    Honestly, not sure how I'll feel about Lance going forward. Can't decide if I'll continue to root for him or if now he'll become a villain in my eyes.

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    Just found out this morning. MAN am I floored! This guy gives up $26 Million in guaranteed money for a chance to Max out 2 years sooner? His agent is terrible! The 3rd year for Charlotte was all about his Bird rights, and now Lance will miss out on the new CBA Free Agency year. Maybe that is a good thing. As he might be the one of the best players on the table in 2017 along with Parsons? LOL!
    I mean really its like world class stupidity from Lance's camp. This dude was all about getting paid, and he turned down more money, so that he might be able to be the man in Charlotte. I mean thats the only explanation. He is immediately their best wing player and the offense will flow through him and Al-Jeff.

    Even more hilarious for the Hornets is that they let McBob go, and signed Williams to a 2/14mil deal and McBob got a 3/21mil in Miami. They could have kept McBob and had Lance. That would be a good pairing. Williams is terrible, barely starting quality.

    Lance was insulted by the Pacers offer, but the Bobcats offered Hayward a Max deal!
    I can't believe Lance. I'd be okay if he went to a team that offered him big money, but to turn us down for an almost identical deal in year 3? Screw HIM! I can't wait to boo his *** next year. I hope West and Hibbert put him on his ***.
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    I think this is a move that will eventually make the Pacers better via addition by subtraction. Lance brought a lot of energy to this team at times when they were playing lethargic and that will be missed. His overall impact on the game was not nearly as positive as his stats would indicate. I doubt if our rebounding suffers at all with Lance moving on. I would have rather had Lance on a shorter deal anyway and I wonder if something like this was offered to him. For a guy that claimed he was staying with the Pacers and wanted to stay it's strange that he took a lesser offer with a team option in year 3 to leave, that would have been an ideal structure for the Pacers IMO and it shows the risk that the Bobcats feel they're taking in Lance. I think there is a lot more to this then we know now and if there is I expect things to come out soon.

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    Is that supposed to be funny?
    Well, no. He seems to be more of a Lance fan than Pacers fan -- so -- go follow Lance.

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    Even though Lance was a talented player I have to hand it to Bird for not panicking and over pay for him.

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    People are really over valuing Lance here. I know its not a perfect stat but his PER was below the league average. Thats pretty telling. Its like the board is the jilted Ex, only remembering the good and not remembering the bad.

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    CJ miles was actually more EFF than Lance last year IIRC correctly.
    Actually no, not even close.

    Miles 8.5
    Lance 17.1

    Only thing I can figure out on this is Larry did indeed lower his offer to Lance after the initial 5 year 44 million, and Lance was offended by that. No way this is over 200k. And to me, if he's worth 8.8, he is worth 9.

    Dumb move no matter how you look at it.
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    Right now, the Pacers are a worse team than they were a year ago. That bothers me. But this should be the best litmus test anyone will ever see for how much chemistry makes up for on-paper talent, and how much Lance Stephenson affected chemistry either way.

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    . . . Honestly, not sure how I'll feel about Lance going forward. Can't decide if I'll continue to root for him or if now he'll become a villain in my eyes.
    Put me in the group that thinks Lance was a major part of the problem last year, still wanted him back next year and will cheer for him at Charlotte going forward. I am eager to see the Hornet games next season.

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    Just wondering, are they going to use Henderson and especially Neal all that much anymore? I mean, we could use even Neal - not to mention Henderson, of course. There might be incentive for the Hornets to shed some salary in order to get more room under the cap.
    Actually a while back I read an article by Bruno on 1070 The Fan that suggested if Charlotte signed Lance, we may be able to trade for Henderson.

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    Actually no, not even close.

    Miles 8.5
    Lance 17.1

    Only thing I can figure out on this is Larry did indeed lower his offer to Lance after the initial 5 year 44 million, and Lance was offended by that. No way this is over 200k. And to me, if he's worth 8.8, he is worth 9.

    Dumb move no matter how you look at it.
    I meant Player Efficiency Rating on there. My bad

    Lance 14.7
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    I find this part of the article most interesting. I doubt if his decision was really about the length of the contract.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...7-million-deal

    "Reports throughout the negotiation process with Indiana have often strayed from the truth but suffice it to say that it was less about the money.

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    Bird and his team have to get credit for NAILING the market price for the guy.

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    Well, no. He seems to be more of a Lance fan than Pacers fan -- so -- go follow Lance.
    Really? Been a Pacers fan for 28 years. And I've been on here since before Lance was on the team.
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    Charlotte probably leap frogs us in the East next year as well, lol. A lot of cocky Pacers fans on here acting like this is still a great team. That's hilarious.
    When was the last team with two all-stars, one a starter who made the All-NBA and All-Defensive team and the other a reserve who made the All-Defensive team, was written off without an injury to one or both?

    And don't attribute it to the collapse. Expecting that to be the new normal is as ludicrous as expecting the way we played the first of the season to be the new normal.
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    After calculating Indiana & North Carolina income tax, it seems as though Lance would have made about $100,000 more/year in Indy.

    Don't blame Larry, don't blame Lance, but hope to god Lance uses some of that money to get himself a more competent agent.
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    Oh yea, I don't gerald henderson. I'd rather take Gary Neal. He has NBA finals Experience.
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    I find this part of the article most interesting. I doubt if his decision was really about the length of the contract.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...7-million-deal

    "Reports throughout the negotiation process with Indiana have often strayed from the truth but suffice it to say that it was less about the money.
    "The Pacers were unwilling to offer Stephenson a shorter deal, spanning two or three years, sources said. Indiana was also unwilling to increase its offer."

    Interesting. Guess the Pacers didn't want to have another year where they had to sign everyone at once?
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    I meant Player Efficiency Rating on there. My bad

    Lance 14.7
    Miles 16
    oh, PER, lol.

    Maybe the Spurs should've traded Tony Parker for Isaih Thomas then. His PER is much better.
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    I find this part of the article most interesting. I doubt if his decision was really about the length of the contract.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...7-million-deal

    "Reports throughout the negotiation process with Indiana have often strayed from the truth but suffice it to say that it was less about the money.
    Yeah, I really don't believe it was about the money. Lance didn't want to be a Pacer anymore. We just bite the bullet and move on. I liked him but he can be replaced (probably not this year). I'm going to keep having faith in the team and the management.

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    Really? Been a Pacers fan for 28 years. And I've been on here since before Lance was on the team.
    Good for you.

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    When was the last team with two all-stars, one a starter who made the All-NBA and All-Defensive team and the other a reserve who made the All-Defensive team, was written off without an injury to one or both?

    And don't attribute it to the collapse. Expecting that to be the new normal is as ludicrous as expecting the way we played the first of the season to be the new normal.
    Did Roy really deserve to be an all-star though after his full season of work?

    Hornets won't surpass us this year, but they are on the rise and we are on the decline barring something

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