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    Default Reggie Miller wants Lance back

    Check out @ReggieMillerTNT's Tweet: https://twitter.com/ReggieMillerTNT/...42410157457408

    Stop screwing around Larry, and get the deal done!!!
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    Default Re: Reggie Miller wants Lance back

    Bird already put a deal on the table......it's more on Lance than Bird.
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    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    Bird already put a deal on the table......it's more on Lance than Bird.
    Larry put a low ball offer on the table.

    And I really wish Reggie would have entirely disappeared from public life the day after his retirement.
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    Default Re: Reggie Miller wants Lance back

    Perhaps I was wrong a few days ago when I said Larry Bird is content with this team being mediocre. I should have said he was content with the Pacer's being LeBron's b***h for more years to come if he don't resign Lance.
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    Larry put a low ball offer on the table.

    And I really wish Reggie would have entirely disappeared from public life the day after his retirement.
    If by "low ball" you mean fair then yes I agree.

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    Default Re: Reggie Miller wants Lance back

    The comments are interesting to read. Even people that don't follow the Pacers think that Lance is a head case and a headache.

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    Perhaps I was wrong a few days ago when I said Larry Bird is content with this team being mediocre. I should have said he was content with the Pacer's being LeBron's b***h for more years to come if he don't resign Lance.
    Who knows what the kid is asking for. Can't really fault Bird here.

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    If by "low ball" you mean fair then yes I agree.
    It's only fair if you really don't think he's going to get more.

    And he'll get a lot more.
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    It's only fair if you really don't think he's going to get more.

    And he'll get a lot more.
    I hope so.

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    Default Re: Reggie Miller wants Lance back

    Where does it say or suggest that Reggie wants Lance back with the Pacers.

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    I really don't understand how Gordon Hayward is worth more than Lance

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    Perhaps I was wrong a few days ago when I said Larry Bird is content with this team being mediocre. I should have said he was content with the Pacer's being LeBron's b***h for more years to come if he don't resign Lance.
    The off season isn't over with yet. All hell will break loose when LeBron finally makes a decision. I look for Bird to be involved in some trades. If more than 60% 0f our starting 5 return next year, I'll be surprised.

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    Larry apparently said to Lance to look for more elsewhere, and then come back to us (that's my guess, anyway).

    So far, the crickets have been chirping.

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    I really don't understand how Gordon Hayward is worth more than Lance
    Better consistency, better defense, better teammate. Similar stats.

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    Default Re: Reggie Miller wants Lance back

    People underestimate how good Lance can be.

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    I really don't understand how Gordon Hayward is worth more than Lance
    Heyward is quite a bit better, imo.
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    It's only fair if you really don't think he's going to get more.

    And he'll get a lot more.
    Maybe, maybe not. I've done the take more money dance from one company to the next and immediately regretted the decision. A smart man would factor in more than your salary. How much is mentoring from Bird worth? How much is it worth to have a franchise stand behind you when you were an idiot? Have to think most teams would have dropped him after the stairwell incident. I like Lance but this has left a sour taste in my mouth, he appears all about the money and I'm not a big fan.

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    Better consistency, better defense, better teammate. Similar stats.
    Lance was much more efficient than Hayward in pretty much every way this season.

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    Heyward is quite a bit better, imo.
    Based on what? The guy shot 40% from the field last year for a really bad basketball team.

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    I really don't understand how Gordon Hayward is worth more than Lance
    I think it is pretty telling that Hayward averages 1 more assist per game than Lance. Lance has much better teammates to pass the ball to and Lance is supposed to be a playmaker.

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    Pay is, in part, based on ability.

    It is in part based upon concerns about other things too, like immaturity, lack of focus, lack of composure, not getting along with people, not sharing the ball.

    It's a balance.
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    I really don't understand how Gordon Hayward is worth more than Lance
    I think you're underestimating how put off teams are by how Lance is. Hayward is all but guaranteed to be less of a headache on and off the floor. Have to think Lance hurt his value with his playoff antics.

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    Pay is, in part, based on ability.

    It is in part based upon concerns about other things too, like immaturity, lack of focus, lack of composure, not getting along with people, not sharing the ball.

    It's a balance.
    15 million a year vs 9 million a year? Did Lance kill a stripper while I wasn't paying attention? It's just odd. If the Pacers were offering someone like Hayward 4/63 I would be pissed.

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    Based on what? The guy shot 40% from the field last year for a really bad basketball team.
    I think it is logical to suggest that Hayward is going to shoot a worse % because he was on a terrible team therefore opponents focused their defense on him a lot more than opponents focused their defense on Lance.

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    I think you're underestimating how put off teams are by how Lance is. Hayward is all but guaranteed to be less of a headache on and off the floor. Have to think Lance hurt his value with his playoff antics.
    No, I think everyone is overestimating how much Hayward is worth. Notice I've never said that I think Lance is worth significantly more than what we offered. I just don't see how Hayward is worth $15 million per.

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