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    Oh like you've never had a snarky response to someone who posts something ridiculous, lol... I do read your stuff ya know.


    I did not know you read my posts. I thought you just blindly responded to them.

    To each his own. Maybe you aren't meaning to come across as condescending, but that's the way a lot of that stuff comes across.

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    It's the internet, everything comes off as condescending... Except for that... And that... And that... And that...
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    It's the internet, everything comes off as condescending... Except for that... And that... And that... And that...
    Yeah, that's the problem. I don't think anyone on this board is as big of a jerk in person as they come across on here. Except maybe Nuntius. Dude is impossibly nice.

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    Grigson sees Ulrick John as a left tackle prospect.

    “He to me is true left tackle prospect, a developmental guy,” said Grigson. “He’s also played center and guard. He goes along with the theme. He’s competitive, has room to grow. I’d like to see how he looks a year from now in our weight program. We feel he has upside. He has an athletic base. He’s kind of an unknown. The athletic core, character and size are there.”
    http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/...7-0f0d6797a9b0

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    Colts ended up with 19 undrafted free agents.
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    INDIANAPOLIS – Hours after concluding the 2014 draft, the Colts have added 19 college free agents (CFAs) not taken among the 256 selections.

    Indianapolis has agreed to terms with the following players: cornerback Qua Cox, guard Marcus Hall, center Jonotthan Harrison, defensive end Tyler Hoover, cornerback Kameron Jackson, nose tackle Zach Kerr, quarterback Seth Lobato, cornerback Keon Lyn, safety Dewey McDonald, wide receiver Gregory Moore, defensive end Nnamdi Obukwelu, kicker Cody Parkey, tackle Eric Pike, cornerback Darius Polk, tight end Erik Swoope, wide receiver Eric Thomas, running back Zurlon Tipton, guard Josh Walker and wide receiver Tony Washington.
    CAPSULE INFORMATION ON THE ADDITIONS



    Cox, 6-0, 185, finished his senior season at Jackson State with 32 tackles and 12 passes defensed. As a junior in 2012, he led the SWAC with five interceptions and was third in the league with 13 passes defensed. In 2011, he started 11 games and led the team with three interceptions to go along with 35 tackles.



    Hall, 6-5, 315, competed in 46 games for the Ohio State offensive line. He started 31 games, including 25 as a junior and senior, during which time the Buckeyes set a school-record winning streak of 24 consecutive games. As a fifth-year senior, Hall started 13-of-14 games and was named an All-Big Ten honorable mention selection.



    Harrison, 6-4, 299, appeared in 51 games and made 39 starts in four seasons at Florida. In 2013, he started all 12 games at center and was voted a team captain by his teammates. He was the only Gator offensive lineman to start at the same position in all 12 games.



    Hoover, 6-7, 290, played in 48 career games (23 starts) at Michigan State and recorded 93 tackles, nine tackles for loss, 7.5 sacks, six passes defensed, three forced fumbles and one fumble recovery. In 2013, he started 11 games and posted career highs in tackles for loss (4.5) and sacks (4.0). In 2010, Hoover appeared in all 13 games (nine starts) and tallied a career-high 36 tackles, including 3.0 sacks.



    Jackson, 5-9, 175, played in 30 games (14 starts) over three seasons (2011-13) with Cal-Berkeley, posting career totals of 75 tackles, nine passes defensed, four interceptions, two tackles for loss and one fumble recovery. He became the first Bear to record a three-interception game in over 10 years.



    Kerr, 6-2, 310, played in 12 games for Delaware in 2013 and totaled 57 tackles (28 solo), 5.5 tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks, four passes defensed and two forced fumbles. In 2012, he earned Second-Team All-Colonial Athletic Association (CAA) honors after starting 11 games and leading a defensive front that ranked second in the conference in rushing defense (134.2 yards per game).



    Lobato, 6-6, 223, is a former college basketball player who walked on at Colorado before transferring to Northern Colorado. In 2013, he threw for 2,725 yards in 10 games while contributing with 16 touchdowns. Lobato totaled a season-high 390 yards and three touchdowns against Colorado State-Pueblo. He averaged 272.5 yards per game while averaging 7.9 yards per completion.



    Lyn, 6-1, 190, played in 38 career games at Syracuse and totaled 89 tackles (75 solo), 20 passes defensed, five tackles for loss, three interceptions, including one returned for a touchdown, two forced fumbles and 1.0 sack. In 2012, he played in all 13 games (10 starts) and tied for seventh in the Big East in interceptions (three) and eighth in passes defensed (10).



    McDonald, 6-0, 220, transferred to California University of Pennsylvania from Fairmont State. As a senior captain, he tallied a career-best 89 tackles, 6.0 tackles for loss, three interceptions (all returned for touchdowns) and eight passes defensed. His three interception returns for touchdowns made him the first PSAC player to accomplish the feat in over 10 years.



    Moore, 6-4, 197, finished 2013 at Lane College with 59 catches for 910 yards and 11 touchdowns en route to All-SIAC accolades. He also had three 100-yard receiving contests. Moore started 10 games as a freshman in junior college at Mesabi Range before transferring to Lane and starting nine contests as a sophomore.



    Obukwelu, 6-3, 275, played in 39 games at Harvard and registered 109 tackles, 21 tackles for loss, 9.0 sacks, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery. In 2013, he was tabbed the winner of the George “Bulger” Lowe Award as the New England Defensive Player of the Year, while also being named to the All-Ivy first team and the College Sports Madness All-Ivy first team.



    Parkey, 6-0, 190, ranks in the top five in all Auburn kicking categories. He finished his senior season making 14-of-19 field goals, 62-of-63 PATs and ranked first in the nation with 69 touchbacks. He totaled an SEC-long streak of 90 consecutive PATs made throughout his career, which ranked seventh in the nation.



    Pike, 6-5, 298, was a four-year starter at left tackle for Towson and was a co-captain during his senior season. In 2013, he was named a Football Championship Series All-America selection as the Tigers compiled a 10-2 regular season record while reaching the NCAA FCS Championship Game. Pike also earned All-CAA first-team honors for the second straight season. He capped his collegiate career having started in all 49 games he appeared in.



    Polk, 5-11, 190, was named to the All-Mid-American Conference (MAC) second team in 2013 after leading Kent State with seven passes defensed and ranking fourth with 60 total tackles. He was also voted as a defensive captain by his teammates. In 2012, Polk finished the season with 58 tackles, three tackles for loss, 3.0 sacks and two interceptions. He earned East MVP honors of the MAC Championship game.



    Swoope, 6-5, 220, was a four-year standout on the University of Miami basketball team who is being signed by the Colts as a tight end. Although he has not played organized football at any level of his athletic career, Swoope’s athleticism gives him the chance to make the transition to football similar to the path of Marcus Pollard, one of the most popular Colts ever. Pollard played basketball at Bradley. Swope started 27-of-110 games and totaled 291 career points, 186 rebounds, 37 steals, 31 assists and 25 blocks in 1,190 minutes. He connected on 51.9 percent from the field and 57.7 percent from the free throw line.



    Thomas, 6-1, 209, is the Sun Belt Conference’s all-time leader with 29 career touchdowns, surpassing, T.Y. Hilton’s previous record of 24. As a senior, he caught 66 passes for 993 yards and finished the year ranked 10th nationally after catching 12 touchdowns. Thomas led the country at one point in the season with a touchdown reception in eight straight games. He finished his Troy career ranked third all-time in school history with 197 receptions, third with 2,655 career receiving yards and second with 29 touchdown receptions.



    Tipton, 6-0, 221, ranks fourth in Central Michigan history with 34 career rushing touchdowns. As a senior, he was named to the Doak Walker Award Watch List while earning the 2013 CMU Gridiron Gladiator Award. As a team captain last season, Tipton rushed for 398 yards on 74 attempts while leading the team with a 5.4 yards per rush average and eight touchdowns.



    Walker, 6-5, 323, was an All-Conference USA selection in 2013 at Middle Tennessee State and never missed a game throughout his collegiate career. In 2012, he earned honorable mention All-Sun Belt Conference (SBC), Third-Team All-SBC by CollegeSportsMadness.com and Second-Team All-SBC by Phil Steele. He started all 12 games and was part of a line that tanked second in the nation in fewest sacks allowed, while also paving the way for three different 100-yard rushers.



    Washington, 5-11, 200, competed in 49 collegiate games and totaled 139 receptions for 1,837 yards and 10 touchdowns. He also contributed with 13 carries for 90 yards and two scores. Washington ranks eighth in school history in both receptions (139) and receiving yards (1,837). He enjoyed a breakout season as a senior in 2013, when he led the SoCon with 939 receiving yards and ranked second with 64 receptions, en route to all-conference first-team recognition.

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    ESPN draft grade for us was a D+ so in other words we probably hit home runs with every single pick never been this confident about a draft in years

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    I hate draft grades in general,but the ones I have read for the Colts so far pretty much say the grade is lower because they didn't have a first round pick. Welp, this year's draft class is worthless because they have to play with Trent Richardson...
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    I hate draft grades in general,but the ones I have read for the Colts so far pretty much say the grade is lower because they didn't have a first round pick. Welp, this year's draft class is worthless because they have to play with Trent Richardson...
    Kiper factored that trade into his grade.

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    I'm kind of intrigued to see if Erik Swoope can do anything. I'm expecting big things out of Dwayne Allen, Coby Fleener isn't terrible, but if he comes anywhere close to the Jimmy Graham comparisons then look out.

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    I'm kind of intrigued to see if Erik Swoope can do anything. I'm expecting big things out of Dwayne Allen, Coby Fleener isn't terrible, but if he comes anywhere close to the Jimmy Graham comparisons then look out.
    Coby Fleener isn't terrible but had he not been Luck's buddy at Stanford i doubt he would have gone that high in the second round. He was drafted to give Luck some familiarity but isn't nearly as good as TY or Allen.

    In retrospect I think we could have gotten Richardson for less than a first. Whether he turns out to be worth it or not, Cleveland did give up on him.


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    Does this say that the colts are drafting guys that other teams regard as not worth drafting? That's concerning.
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    Not really, you target guys for your system.
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    Kiper factored that trade into his grade.
    A lot of people did, but that doesn't tell us anything about who the Colts picked.
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    Not really, you target guys for your system.
    Or when you know that you don't have as many picks and you don't want to trade up, you target players that you feel can go undrafted...
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    Checkout Stampede blue Josh Wilson grades... he really does a good job of analyzing what the Colts did, his draft grades and reasons are a lot better than anything on ESPN.

    Maybe I am saying this because he basically wrote exactly what I was thinking....

    He liked the players, but not the picks.... and basically he wonders about Grigson, and if he really sees what is going on in the draft at times...
    Why so SERIOUS

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    No offense... but I'd wager that at least half of all NFL fans and media question every GM's draft process.

    Not only is it not an exact science, but it also never will be, and there is generally no real bonafide way to measure the process, nor is there a great way to totally gauge how effective a player will be at the next level. There are guys who are "can't miss" prospects who never find a way, and then there are guys who no one notices who go on to stellar careers.

    Besides, I thought his first draft was really damn good, even if you take out Andrew Luck. That was a heckuva draft. The following two drafts cannot be graded yet. So the whole notion that he's not a good drafter is not correct, yet. I felt like, other than addressing the secondary, he drafted for need and for our system. I wanted some o-line help more than anything, and we brought in some guys.
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    I did not know you read my posts. I thought you just blindly responded to them.

    To each his own. Maybe you aren't meaning to come across as condescending, but that's the way a lot of that stuff comes across.
    I don't like to think I'm condescending. I just know more than most people.
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    Been watching and reading up on Moncrief. He's impressive, man. He's got all the physical tools, faster than *****, has some major ups, big and strong. He looks the part in those videos. I'd bet this is who they have in mind to replace Reggie long-term.

    His weaknesses seem fixable. Route-running, adjusting to the ball. He's got a great in-house mentor in those categories.

    He's getting a huge upgrade at QB to throw to him.
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    I always try to figure out if we are trending upward or downward and to me we are trending upward still and many of the guys we drafted last year were either hurt or are still unknowns. What I like is the collective moves being done and having a one year rental of Nicks and Bradshaw is great combination. Safety is a concern but every team goes through that process at some position every year.

    I am not worried at all about this draft class.

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    Well, he has talent.

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    I always try to figure out if we are trending upward or downward and to me we are trending upward still and many of the guys we drafted last year were either hurt or are still unknowns. What I like is the collective moves being done and having a one year rental of Nicks and Bradshaw is great combination. Safety is a concern but every team goes through that process at some position every year.

    I am not worried at all about this draft class.
    The guys we drafted in year 1 were skill players, top picks in each round and after the huge player purge they stepped right in as starters. The guys we are drafting last year and this year are mostly offensive and defensive beef. We need to wait to see if they are going to be any good.

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    Bill Polian once commented that a great GM picked correctly about 50% of the time.
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    I have to admit I always figured Purifoy would go to the Pats they love collecting ex-Gators.

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    Bill Polian once commented that a great GM picked correctly about 50% of the time.
    I'm sure he was referring to the GM of the Colts at the time.

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    Yeah, that's the problem. I don't think anyone on this board is as big of a jerk in person as they come across on here. Except maybe Nuntius. Dude is impossibly nice.
    He is a saint, cdash. If a mosquito landed on his arm trying to bite him he would tell it " Go on son, do your thing".

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    Your "holier than thou" crap needs to go. If you think you are so far above the internet and it's silly comments, then don't come on a message board.
    This. A thousand times.

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