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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...had&id=1993400
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    Updated: Feb. 17, 2005, 1:41 PM ET

    By Chad Ford
    ESPN Insider

    Want to know what your team has to offer in a trade? Whether it needs to cut cap space? If it has a valuable trade exception or expiring contracts? Who on the team is untradeable?

    As Insider runs through every NBA team digging for answers, here are a few notes to keep in mind:

    Team payroll: The 2004-05 payroll numbers for each team are estimated. The exact numbers aren't available right now due to slight fluctuations with non-guaranteed contracts and trades. However, the numbers are close.

    This year, the cap came in at $43.87 million. The 2005-06 payroll figures are for committed salaries only. First-round draft picks and free-agent cap holds can potentially reduce the amount of cap space the team has available.

    The Hawks, Bobcats, Cavaliers, Bulls, Clippers and Sonics should have significant cap room next summer if the cap comes in at around $45 million. The Sonics (Ray Allen, Vladimir Radmanovic, Antonio Daniels), Bulls (Eddy Curry, Tyson Chandler), Cavs (Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Jeff McInnis) and Clippers (Marko Jaric, Bobby Simmons) have significant free agents they intend to re-sign, which will cut well into their cap room.

    Team assets: This contains a list of all current cap room, owned draft picks and trade exceptions. Only three teams have cap room for the trade deadline: Hawks ($3.3 million), Bobcats ($6 million) and Jazz ($5.5 million).

    A team cannot trade consecutive future first round picks. However, once the team has made its draft selection, it is free to trade the rights to the player it selected. Teams that are prohibited from trading their first-round pick are noted below.

    Trade exceptions can be used to acquire a player or players whose salary equals the trade exception, or to claim a player off waivers whose contract equals the trade exception. Free agents cannot be signed using the exception, however. For a more detailed explanation of how the exception is aquired and used, see our trade primer.

    Tradeable expiring contracts: Under each team is a list of expiring and non-guaranteed contracts, and contracts with team options for '05-06, that teams can deal before the Feb. 24 trade deadline. Several players, such as Stromile Swift and Toni Kukoc, are not on this list, despite having expiring contracts. That's because the contracts they signed prohibit them from being traded this season.

    These expiring contracts are valuable trading chips. Teams want to acquire them to cut payroll for the upcoming summer. A team willing to trade an expiring contract for one with a few years on it can get a lot in return.

    With that said, expiring contracts aren't as valuable this year as they normally would be. Teams believe there won't be a luxury tax this year. In past years, teams have tried to radically reduce payroll at the deadline in order to avoid paying the tax.

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade contracts: The term "poison pill" is not a derogatory term for a player. It's a specific term for a certain type of contract tied to rookie extensions.

    Check out our trade rules story for fuller definitions of all the terms we've used on the team assets page.

    Atlanta Hawks

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $40.5 million
    2005-06: $18 million

    Team assets:
    # $3.3 million in cap space
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Draft rights to David Andersen ('02, Austraila)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Kenny Anderson, $745,046
    Chris Crawford, $3,250,000
    Predrag Drobnjak, $2,550,000 ('05-06 not guaranteed)
    Tyronn Lue, $1,650,000
    Antoine Walker, $14,625,000
    Kevin Willis, $1,300,000

    Boston Celtics

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $63.6 million
    2005-06: $49.9 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Lakers' 2005 first-round pick (top-14 protected)
    # Trade exception: $1,337,500

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Tom Gugliotta, $2,700,000
    Gary Payton, $5,408,700
    Justin Reed, $385,277
    Yogi Stewart, $4,800,000

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Mark Blount (base-year player)

    Charlotte Bobcats

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $23 million
    (Note: Charlotte's cap, because it is an expansion team, is $29,250,000 this year.)
    2005-06: $10.7 million
    (Note: Charlotte's cap, because it is an expansion team, is restricted to 75 percent of the cap in 2005-06.)

    Team assets:
    # $6 million in cap room
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Cavs' 2005 first-round pick (top-13 protected)
    # Raptors' 2005 first-round pick (top-17 protected)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Keith Bogans, $620,046
    Jason Kapono, $620,046
    Brevin Knight, $745,046
    Bernard Robinson, $385,277
    Kareem Rush, $1,174,200
    Steve Smith, $745,046
    Theron Smith, $620,046
    Gerald Wallace, $1,652,454
    Jahidi White, $6,146,465

    Chicago Bulls

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $57 million
    2005-06: $33.7 million

    Team assets:
    # Trade exception: $1,746,434

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Tyson Chandler, $4,801,102
    Eddy Curry, $3,896,402
    Chris Duhon, $385,277
    Adrian Griffin, $870,046
    Othella Harrington, $3,150,000
    Jannero Pargo, $695,046
    Jared Reiner, $385,277
    Frank Williams, $957,480

    Cleveland Cavaliers

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $49 million
    2005-06: $22.6 million

    Team assets:
    # Trade exception: $1,585,920

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    DeSagana Diop, $2,695,164
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas, $14,625,000
    Jeff McInnis, $3,600,000
    Robert Traylor, $1,600,000
    Dajuan Wagner, $2,643,600
    Scott Williams, $1,600,000

    Dallas Mavericks

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $88.1 million
    2005-06: $79.3 million

    Team assets:
    # Trade exception: $893,400

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Darrell Armstrong, $2,270,000
    Alan Henderson, $8,273,125

    Denver Nuggets

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $46 million
    2005-06: $38.7 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick (can't be traded before the draft)
    # Wizards 2005 first-round pick (top-13 protected)
    # Draft rights to Xue Yuyang ('03, China) and Sani Becirovic ('03, Slovenia)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Francisco Elson, $620,046
    DerMarr Johnson, $745,046
    Voshon Lenard, $3,275,000 ($250,000 in salary protection next season)
    Bryon Russell, $745,046
    Nikoloz Tskitishvili, $2,910,600
    Rodney White, $1,800,000

    Detroit Pistons

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $53.3 million
    2005-06: $52.5 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick (can't be traded before draft)
    # Draft rights to Andreas Glyniadakis ('03, Greece) and Ricky Paulding ('04, Missouri)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Horace Jenkins, $620,046

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Darvin Ham (untradeable, one-year Bird right contract)

    Golden State Warriors

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $51 million
    2005-06: $47.9 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Mavs' 2007 first-round pick
    # Future first-round pick from Sixers (two years after Sixers send a pick to the Raptors)
    # Trade exception: $5,287,100
    # Draft rights to Mladen Secularac ('02, Serbia)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Dale Davis, $10,068,750

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Adonal Foyle (base-year player)
    Troy Murphy ("poison pill" contract)
    Jason Richardson ("poison pill" contract)

    Houston Rockets

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $60.9 million
    2005-06: $55.4 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Trade exception: $5,480,000
    # Draft rights to Malick Badiane ('03, Germany) and Vassilis Spanoulis ('04, Greece)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Andre Barrett, $385,277
    Jon Barry, $1,800,000
    Ryan Bowen, $745,046
    Dikembe Mutombo, $4,496,434

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Scott Padgett (untradeable)

    Indiana Pacers

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $65.4 million
    2005-06: $73.9 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Trade exception: $1,225,000

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    John Edwards, $385,277
    James Jones, $620,046

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Michael Curry (untradeable before deadline)
    Jamaal Tinsley (base-year player)

    Los Angeles Clippers

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $45.9 million
    2005-06: $29 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick if in top 14 (can't be traded before the draft)
    # Draft rights to Sofoklis Schortsanitis ('03, Greece)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Rick Brunson, $745,046
    Lionel Chalmers, $450,000
    Marko Jaric, $2,100,000
    Kerry Kittles, $10,266,666
    Mikki Moore, $745,046
    Mamadou N'diaye, $750,000
    Zeljko Rebraca, $2,500,000
    Quinton Ross, $620,046
    Bobby Simmons, $825,000

    Los Angeles Lakers

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $64.8 million
    2005-06: $66.3 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick if in top 14 (can't be traded before the draft)
    # Heat 2006 first-round pick (top 14 protected)
    # Trade exceptions: $1,983,720; $2,038,700

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Tierre Brown, $720,046
    Vlade Divac, $4,903,000 ($2 million in salary protection next season)
    Luke Walton, $620,046

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Kobe Bryant (no-trade clause)
    Slava Medvedenko (base-year player)

    Memphis Grizzlies

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $65.7 million
    2005-06: $55.7 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Draft rights to Sergei Lishouk ('04, Ukraine)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Ryan Humphrey, $1,223,160
    Earl Watson, $1,458,000
    Bonzi Wells, $7,700,000

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Shane Battier ("poison pill" contract)
    Pau Gasol ("poison pill" contract)
    Mike Miller (base-year player)
    Stromile Swift (one-year tender offer contract, untradeable)

    Miami Heat

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $58.7 million
    2005-06: $58.8 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick (can't be traded before the draft)
    # Draft rights to Albert Miralles ('04, Spain)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Malik Allen, $1,697,500
    Shandon Anderson, $692,455
    Udonis Haslem, $620,046
    Christian Laettner, $745,046
    Wang ZhiZhi, $745,046

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Rasual Butler (base-year player)

    Milwaukee Bucks

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $56.1 million
    2005-06: $37.7 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Draft rights to Szymon Szewczyk ('03, Poland)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Marcus Fizer, $736,281
    Dan Gadzuric, $695,046
    Zaza Pachulia, $620,046
    Michael Redd, $3,000,000 ('05-06 player option; will opt out)
    Daniel Santiago, $1,320,000
    Erick Strickland, $1,650,000

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Toni Kukoc (untradeable, one-year Bird right contract)
    Desmond Mason (base-year player)

    Minnesota Timberwolves

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $70.1 million
    2005-06: $53 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Anthony Carter, $745,046
    Eddie Griffin, $720,046
    Ervin Johnson, $4,909,062
    Mark Madsen, $745,046
    Latrell Sprewell, $14,625,000

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Troy Hudson (base-year player)

    New Jersey Nets

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $63.7 million
    2005-06: $49.8 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Clippers 2005 first-round pick (top-14 protected this year; no protection thereafter)
    # Trade exception: $4,979,167
    # Draft rights to Christian Drejer ('04, Denmark)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Travis Best, $745,046
    Rodney Buford, $745,046
    Cliff Robinson, $5,287,500 (cannot be aggregated in a trade)
    Brian Scalabrine, $850,000
    Jabari Smith, $745,046
    Jacque Vaughn, $745,046

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Elden Campbell (claimed off waivers in last 30 days)
    Jason Collins ("poison pill" contract)
    Richard Jefferson ("poison pill" contract)

    New Orleans Hornets

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $64.6 million
    2005-06: $49.4 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Trade exception: $1,376,600
    # Trade exception: $1,538,667

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Dan Dickau, $893,400
    Casey Jacobsen, $1,082,160
    Bostjan Nachbar, $1,493,880
    Lee Nailon, $745,046
    Rodney Rogers, $2,700,000
    Jackson Vroman, $385,277

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Jamaal Magloire (base-year player)

    New York Knicks

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $101.6 million
    2005-06: $109.0 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick (can't be traded before the draft)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Trevor Ariza, $385,277
    Jamison Brewer, $720,046
    Bruno Sundov, $745,046

    Orlando Magic

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $67.4 million
    2005-06: $70.2 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Kings 2005 first-round pick (top-13 protected)
    # Draft rights to Remon Van de Hare ( '03, Belgium)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Andrew DeClercq, $2,560,000
    Brandon Hunter, $620,046
    Mario Kasun, $385,277 ('05-06 salary becomes 25 percent guaranteed Feb. 21)

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    DeShawn Stevenson (base-year player)

    Philadelphia 76ers

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $66 million
    2005-06: $53.8 million

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Kedrick Brown, $2,332,388
    Samuel Dalembert, $1,599,549
    Josh Davis, $620,046
    Willie Green, $620,046
    Kyle Korver, $620,046
    Glenn Robinson, $12,071,250

    Phoenix Suns

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $44.4 million
    2005-06: $45.4 million

    Team assets:
    # Bulls first-round pick (top 3 protected)
    # Draft rights to Milos Vujanic ('02, Serbia)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Joe Johnson, $2,358,954
    Walter McCarty, $1,337,500
    Bo Outlaw, $718,750

    Portland Trail Blazers

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $81 million
    2005-06: $49.9 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Draft rights to Federico Kammerichs ('02, Argentina, Nedzad Sinanovic ('03, Bosnia) and Sergey Monia ('04, Russia)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Shareef Abdur-Rahim, $14,625,000
    Richie Frahm, $695,046
    Damon Stoudamire, $12,500,000
    Nick Van Exel, $11,931,875

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Darius Miles (base-year player)
    Zach Randolph ("poison pill" contract)

    Sacramento Kings

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $61.6 million
    2005-06: $61.2 million

    Team assets:
    # Trade exception: $1,652,454
    # Trade exception: $1,665,500

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Matt Barnes, $695,046
    Erik Daniels, $385,277
    Maurice Evans, $695,046
    Bobby Jackson, $3,150,000

    San Antonio Spurs

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $46.9 million
    2005-06: $55.1 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Suns 2005 first-round pick (top-20 protected)
    # Draft rights to Luis Scola ('02, Argentina), Viktor Sanikidze ('04, Georgia) and Sergei Karaulov ('04, Russia)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Devin Brown, $695,046
    Linton Johnson, $620,046
    Tony Massenburg, $745,046
    Mike Wilks, $720,046

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Sean Marks (untradeable, one-year Bird rights contract)
    Tony Parker ("poison pill" contract)

    Seattle SuperSonics

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $53.5 million
    2005-06: $21 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Draft rights to Peter Fehese ('02, Germany), Paccelis Morlende ('03, France)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Ray Allen, $14,625,000
    Antonio Daniels, $2,200,000 ('05-06 player option; will opt out)
    Reggie Evans, $880,000
    Jerome James, $5,455,200
    Ronald Murray, $695,046
    Vitaly Potapenko, $6,191,250
    Vladimir Radmanovic, $2,300,984
    Damien Wilkins, $385,277

    Toronto Raptors

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $61 million
    2005-06: $54.5 million

    Team assets:
    # 2005 first-round pick if in top 17 (can't be traded before draft)
    # 76ers 2005 first-round pick (top-8 protected)
    # Nuggets 2006 first-round pick (top-5 protected)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Matt Bonner, $385,277
    Donyell Marshall, $5,032,850
    Milt Palacio, $807,546
    Pape Sow, $385,27

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Morris Peterson (base-year player)

    Utah Jazz

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $38.4 million
    2005-06: $48.3 million

    Team assets:
    # $5.5 million in cap room
    # 2005 first-round pick
    # Mavericks 2005 first-round pick (top-3 protected)
    # Pistons 2006 first-round pick (top-14 protected)
    # Knicks 2006 first-round pick (top-23 protected)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Raja Bell, $1,320,000
    Howard Eisley, $740,663
    Keith McLeod, $750,000

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Andrei Kirilenko ("poison pill" contract)

    Washington Wizards

    Team payroll:
    2004-05: $49.6 million
    2005-06: $38.6 million

    Team assets:
    # Draft rights to Juan Carlos Navarro ('02, Spain)

    Tradeable expiring contracts:
    Steve Blake, $620,046
    Kwame Brown, $5,361,873
    Juan Dixon, $1,348,200
    Larry Hughes, $5,455,200
    Anthony Peeler, $1,650,000
    Laron Profit, $745,046
    Michael Ruffin, $745,046
    Samaki Walker, $745,046

    Untradeable or difficult-to-trade players:
    Brendan Haywood ("poison pill" contract)
    Etan Thomas (base-year player)

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    Anyone know what a "poison pill" contract is??

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    I'm guessing a player that has had run ins with the law. I noticed Zach Randolph had that. If I were the Pacers, i would gladly take that poison pill off The Blazers hand.
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    In the corporate world a company may have agreements with others (employees or customers perhaps) that they will perform some financial promise if acquired by another company. This makes the acquisition expensive -- the acquiring company has to swallow a poison pill.
    Sooooo, maybe there are contract provisions or options which enhance the value to the player if he is traded.
    I'll bet someone else can come up with an example.

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    Where the hell did the Pacers get that $1,225,000 trade exception???

    Well they could get a cheap player if they wanted I guess for it, if it werr an expiring contract.

    Man, the cap situation isn't all that good; that's the only reason why I wish the Pacers could get a Glenn Robinson or Antoine Walker for cheap.

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    Anyone know what a "poison pill" contract is??
    I believe it means the player already signed an extension that kicks in the following season so when matching salaries instead of using this years salary you have to use the average of his extension which I guess for Zach would be like 9 million instead of 2 million. Its a little more complicated than that but I'm pretty sure that is the general idea.

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    Where the hell did the Pacers get that $1,225,000 trade exception???
    Just a guess but they probably got that when the Bobcats took Brezec.

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    It has nothing to do with run ins with the law they might have had, dipper is right, it is usually a clause in a contract that makes it all the more difficult to trade a player, it can be any from many cluases, like a huge bonus they become entitled to (say 10 mio) or their contract gets an option year where the player can opt out of the contract the next year, or there is another sort of option becoming open when traded or the player may have the right to outright refuse the trade.

    In general poison pills are not alike, they are individually tailored and in general make trading "iffy" at best.
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    I thought a 'poison pill' contract was one where you have a talented 7 foot player who always gets hurt but who just signed a long extension. You can't trade him and he can't play so it's 'poisoning' your team! Actually Dipper and Able's description make sense as well.
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    The article is wrong, Tinsley is "poison pill" as well.

    He's still on his rookie contract, but he's signed a new contract that begins next season.

    Next season, because the Pacers used his "Bird rights" to sign him to a new contract with a raise > x% (don't remember the exact number off the top of my head, if you really care then I recommend Larry Croon's FAQ), he's BYC (if that exists under the new CBA).

    Two seasons from now, he's unrestricted in terms of trades.

    Poison Pill players work fairly similar to BYC. In a nutshell, the Pacers can only take back a guy making +/- 15% of Jamaal's current (rookie - 27th pick contract), but the other team must be able to absorb his new contract without going over the cap. Since just about everybody is over the cap, it would take a very, very complicated multi-team trade to make it work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay@Section204
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    Poison Pill players work fairly similar to BYC. In a nutshell, the Pacers can only take back a guy making +/- 15% of Jamaal's current (rookie - 27th pick contract), but the other team must be able to absorb his new contract without going over the cap. Since just about everybody is over the cap, it would take a very, very complicated multi-team trade to make it work.
    Yeah, just to expand a little. In this case the team getting Tinsley would have to count Tinsley's salary at the average of the last year of his rookie contract and all the annual salaries in his new contract. So, if Tinsley is now making 1.6 million and the average of his new contract is 6.5 million, then the Pacers have to get salaries back no greater than the 1.6 million. plus 15 percent, but the team getting Tinsley has to count his salary at 6.5 million. Makes it nearly impossible for two teams to trade, unless the one getting Tinsley is under the cap to absorb Tinsley "poison pill" salary.

    Clear as mud?

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