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    10 points on 4-19 shooting tonight. And he's been slumping over the last week or so.

    Is he hurt, or tired, or both? If so, he should really consider taking the All-Star Game off...
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    JO has struggled ever since Tinsley has been out if you really think about it. If he still struggles after Tinsley comes back though....

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    JO also got owned by Pryzbilla tonight. That was painful to watch.
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    Default Re: What is wrong with JO?

    He is going to have alot of time off, going to play in the All-Star game is like a break. He probably wont play more then 10-15 minutes in it.

    I think JO is just tired, he will be back to his regular self after the break.

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    He has multiple injuries, hes probably tired from carrying all the load the last couple of games. He will be back to his normal self after the All-Star break. And adding Tinsley will help also.

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    Injuries, he's tired, and law of averages (he was hot a few games ago shooting 60%)

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    I still think it's a bad idea for him to even be going to the All-Star game. And if he plays 10-15 minutes I'm gonna be pissed.
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    Default Re: What is wrong with JO?

    Why would you be pissed if he doesnt play alot of minutes? I would want to see him play 35 minutes in the game but I think its the best for him if he doesnt play alot.

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    Wrong way. I'd like to see him play 4-6 minutes!
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    I still think it's a bad idea for him to even be going to the All-Star game. And if he plays 10-15 minutes I'm gonna be pissed.
    Well, you're probably going to be pissed. He'll play about 20 to 25 minutes, 8 to 10 in the first half, 12 to 15 in the 2nd, I'd imagine. He'll be part of the crunchtime five, with Iverson, Wade, LeBron, and Shaq.

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    Do you think it's possible that the opposition has figured out the best way to contain JO? He's been getting fewer and fewer opportunities inside his comfort zone.

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    JO has been burnt out from having to carry the team offensively. This is one area where having Ron would help, taking some of the low post duties away from JO. I really like Jermaine much better when he focuses on defense and rebounding, and he hasn't had the energy to lately.
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    I was a bit troubled by one of Quinn's comments last night. He said looking at JO's face, it seemed JO didn't want to be there. I don't know if it is fatique/injury/disappointment/frustration, but it's concerning.

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    Is it possible that since RC has changed the offense up a bit that JO is simply just not getting the looks he use to?

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    I was a bit troubled by one of Quinn's comments last night. He said looking at JO's face, it seemed JO didn't want to be there. I don't know if it is fatique/injury/disappointment/frustration, but it's concerning.
    Probably pouting because the ball doesn't get dumped down to him as much since they're relying on the pick and roll and ball movement a little more.

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    Is it possible that since RC has changed the offense up a bit that JO is simply just not getting the looks he use to?

    i just think he's missing shots that he had been making. he missed a lot of easy jumpers. i think changing the offense will help him get better looks because the defense won't be able to focus in on him as much.

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    Is it possible that since RC has changed the offense up a bit that JO is simply just not getting the looks he use to?
    Rick has opened the offense up a little bit because JO is getting worn out.

    Unfortunately, I think once JO gets his legs back that Rick will once again start dumping the ball into the post possession after possession.

    The Pacers do seem to do better when they run an equal-opportunity offense, open it up a little bit, and not just be single faceted by dumping the ball into Jermaine time after time. At the same time, they are not wearing out their best player.

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    Then why don't they simply mix it up a little bit. It seems that it's either open the offense or dump the ball. why not just mix it up during the game instead of game by game?

    I've noticed that really good things happen when they move the ball consistently. I just don't understand why they don't continue staying with what works or at least like I said mix it up.

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    I mentioned in the game report two things I noticed right off.

    one) He was getting hammered.....and I mean hammered with no calls....does that lead to frustration?


    two) He was not elevating to take his shots except on that one frustration slam-dunk late in the 4th last night. He's tired.
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    even if rc doesn't want to open the offense up, i don't think he has much of a choice. j.o. missed 15 games and is still worn out because he has to carry so much of the offensive load. if they keep pounding it in to j.o. he'll be ineffective at the end of the season.

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    It's been reported JO is Struggling with some Injuries and a Back Injury being one of those injuries , having such a injury is gonna affect your shooting.

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    It's been reported JO is Struggling with some Injuries and a Back Injury being one of those injuries , having such a injury is gonna affect your shooting.
    The two others are reportedly his knees and his feet, both are exhaustion signals afaik.

    It does however easily explain why he has no elevation on his shots.

    Not getting any calls while 2 - 3 people are hanging on you every possesion is usually not ideal for your disposition.

    Reggie getting the shots is not something that bother(s)ed JO one bit.

    oops forgot; he's also reported to (liek Jeff) have a hip pointer (whatever the heck they mean by that)
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    Do you think it's possible that the opposition has figured out the best way to contain JO? He's been getting fewer and fewer opportunities inside his comfort zone.

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    Bingo.

    I imagine he's somewhat tired.

    But JVG and Fratello pulled thier defense right out of SVG's playbook last weekend, and to some extent Cheeks copied it again last night.

    Push JO out away from the low post. Make him a face-the-basket jump shooter. Take away the jump hook and the spin move in the paint. That's the way the scouting report says to try slow him down. And we've seen teams execute that strategey pretty well lately. Last May, we had Ron in position to feed on all of JO's table scraps against Miami. Right now we really need to find some guys to consistently step up into that void, so that teams can't affort to send three guys at JO.

    Let's also give him credit, he's not forcing a lot of shots in the triple team. He's helping to move the ball around. Unfortunately, he feels compelled to take too many face-up jumpers, and that's not his strength. But I guess a JO face-up jumper is better than many of our other offensive options, except on nights that Reggie uses his floater and gets to the FT line like he did last night.

    I know UB thinks you can do those things by fronting him. But what's happening is that he's getting pushed around by a swarm of physically strong post defenders.

    IMO, its a combination of opponent's game plans and the extra fatigue of working so hard to carry this team through the twenty games or so in January before SJax returned. (Yes I know it was officially only fifteen games, I'm also saying it took SJax a few games before he was making positive contributions).

    So to answer the premise of the thread. Nothing is "wrong" with JO besides a slightly higher than normal pre-ASG fatigue. He should go and play whatever minutes they ask him to play this weekend. He still has less than one game over the next six days, so he'll get plenty of rest. He'd be traveling off to a beach somewhere if he didn't play, so traveling to Denver won't wear him out.
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    True, Jo had 2-3 men on his every move with the ball, add in not jumping and he gets alot of his shots blocked (many of which should have been whistled but weren't).
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    Jay I think you're grossly ignoring JO's injuries. (Don't have time for more right now)

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