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    Miami should bring JO back:

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    wonder if Jermaine would sign vet minimum for a year.. would love to see him in a Pacers uniform again.
    Don't see it happening with Bird running the show.

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    Durant isn't leaving OKC.
    If the Thunder don't make the Finals in 2015 or 2016, then I think he'll think long and hard about leaving.

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    Phoenix was going after Bosh? hmm take Hibbert instead!

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    Durant isn't leaving OKC.
    Says who?

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    Bulls went a little overkill on PF's this year... Just gave 3/17 to Mirotic, but why are they paying nearly 6m to someone who doesn't have a lot of room to play? Gasol and Gibson are already there. I would trade Gibson for a wing if I were them.

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    Bulls went a little overkill on PF's this year... Just gave 3/17 to Mirotic, but why are they paying nearly 6m to someone who doesn't have a lot of room to play? Gasol and Gibson are already there. I would trade Gibson for a wing if I were them.
    Id give Lance for Taj

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    Bulls went a little overkill on PF's this year... Just gave 3/17 to Mirotic, but why are they paying nearly 6m to someone who doesn't have a lot of room to play? Gasol and Gibson are already there. I would trade Gibson for a wing if I were them.
    I have not looked at the roster, but isn't Gasol going to back up Noah as well? They need to do a better job keeping guys rested during the season.

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    If the Thunder don't make the Finals in 2015 or 2016, then I think he'll think long and hard about leaving.
    Durant going to Washington Sign and trade for Otto Porter and a 1st... humm, Wall, Beal, KD, but I guess they can only have 2 max players right?

    Actually just looked it up Beal has his qualifying offer the year KD is a FA, and they could make any future signings not affect cap space in that year and sign him flat out... I am calling it now, Durant to Washington after the 2016 season.
    Why so SERIOUS

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    Yeah I get what you are saying, I just don't think I agree.

    I see Parsons as a 10 million a year type of guy. So to me, you don't make yourself better by giving him 15. You might look better on paper and that might be what it takes to get him, but the team will suffer somewhere as a result.

    As far as Lin and Asik, I think those guys can both be replaced much cheaper. Asik is more of a luxury with Dwight in the fold anyways. And they got a first round pick in the package for him which is nice.

    You're right tho, they really botched it, based on what they were trying to do. They should've taken the option. I would rather have Parsons than Ariza no doubt, but not at the price difference.

    If I had to choose which team did better, I would still choose Houston though. They got a comparable player at half the money and landed a first round pick for a luxury item. I'm also not a fan of Lin, so I feel like they can upgrade that spot by spending less. JMO
    In some cases, it's better to have cap space than an overpaid player. In other cases, it's better to have an overpaid player than nothing.

    5 mil isn't so much. Lots of good teams have much more dead weight. How much dead weight is there on the Pacers? If we looked through the Pacers contracts and adjusted them to what they should be paid, we'd probably save some 10 mil at least. And the Pacers are a good contending team regardless. A team that's under tax as well. Dallas has ability to spend much more than the Pacers do.

    And Dallas is working with a deadline. They are trying to be as good as they can be for Dirk's last 3 years or so. And Dirk actually took a paycut for them to add a good player this year. They couldn't just wait for a player who's both a great fit and cheap. Overall, their flexibility looks great going forward. Parsons will be a bit overpaid, but Dirk and Monta will be underpaid. They will have enough cap room to add another max player next summer.

    And you know, if they follow such a drastic strategy where they'd rather waste Dirk's final years than overpay anyone good, then Dirk might just see no reason to take any paycuts.

    I think they did well.

    Now Houston, they could've had Parsons, Lin, Ariza and 2 picks in the 2015 draft. Instead, they have Ariza and one pick in the 2015 draft. They lost Parsons on a 1 mil contract, a 1st round pick and Lin, with nothing in return. That's an obvious asset loss.

    They got Boozered by Bosh, so it's not entirely their fault. But it's a very bad offseason for them.
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    Speaking of Morey, he was on Houston radio and said "the teams that find the Chandlers Parsons, not the ones that pay them the max, are the ones that succeed long term." That's all well and good. Then he went on to say the contract was "the most untradeable structure he'd ever seen."

    Morey's successful. But he's just cold blooded as hell. I have no problem with him trying to push this big this big analytics wave and all, but he views players as nothing but data points and that just makes me feel a little queasy.

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    Speaking of Morey, he was on Houston radio and said "the teams that find the Chandlers Parsons, not the ones that pay them the max, are the ones that succeed long term." That's all well and good. Then he went on to say the contract was "the most untradeable structure he'd ever seen."

    Morey's successful. But he's just cold blooded as hell. I have no problem with him trying to push this big this big analytics wave and all, but he views players as nothing but data points and that just makes me feel a little queasy.
    Plus what exactly has Morey done in his career as a GM? And as far as finding diamonds in the rough and getting steals I'd say Dallas has an alright history of finding those dudes (See Nowitzki, Dirk)....

    Not only the way Morey sees players, but the guy is just a dick. Why would you want to deal with it someone like that? I hope Cuban told him to **** right off during those negotiations for a trade exception.

    He's been a GM for 7 years, they've made the playoffs 3 times, and they've won one playoff series? Yeah that's some serious "long term" success. Don't worry it's the Daryl Morey 10 year plan.

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    Plus what exactly has Morey done in his career as a GM? And as far as finding diamonds in the rough and getting steals I'd say Dallas has an alright history of finding those dudes (See Nowitzki, Dirk)....

    Not only the way Morey sees players, but the guy is just a dick. Why would you want to deal with it someone like that? I hope Cuban told him to **** right off during those negotiations for a trade exception.

    He's been a GM for 7 years, they've made the playoffs 3 times, and they've won one playoff series? Yeah that's some serious "long term" success. Don't worry it's the Daryl Morey 10 year plan.
    I think what he's done is very impressive. He had a team of two superstars, he worked on building a championship supporting cast. Then he lost them both to injuries. He was ordered by the owner not to tank, and he was not allowed to move Yao's massive expiring either, Yao had to retire a Rocket. And still, he managed to turn the team around with no tanking, no losing seasons, no high draft picks in just 3 years. At the end of year 3, he steals Harden. They are back to the playoffs, and at the end of year 4 he gets Dwight.

    That's an impressive rebuilding project, especially considering restrictions placed by the owner.

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    I think what he's done is very impressive. He had a team of two superstars, he worked on building a championship supporting cast. Then he lost them both to injuries. He was ordered by the owner not to tank, and he was not allowed to move Yao's massive expiring either, Yao had to retire a Rocket. And still, he managed to turn the team around with no tanking, no losing seasons, no high draft picks in just 3 years. At the end of year 3, he steals Harden. They are back to the playoffs, and at the end of year 4 he gets Dwight.

    That's an impressive rebuilding project, especially considering restrictions placed by the owner.
    Dallas is unimpressed.

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    Baron Davis is also working on writing his 1st movie script, a buddy cop film about the kidnapping of the star player during the NBA Finals.
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    That sounds horrible...lol.

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    Celtic Pride. Judd Apatow drafting a cease and desist letter as we speak.



    lol

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    LOL I meant to post this...not that movie crap. My bad



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    that IS Celtic Pride Baron.

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    that IS Celtic Pride Baron.
    Well it was so good the first time, who can blame him for wanting to remake it?
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    Ivan as a stretch 4? I didn't know...



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    Well it was so good the first time, who can blame him for wanting to remake it?
    Never seen it, but a big 5.1 rating on IMDB. Must be a blockbuster!

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    Never seen it, but a big 5.1 rating on IMDB. Must be a blockbuster!
    I'm sure you can find plenty of movies you LOVE that have a 6 or less rating on IMDB/RottenTomatoes lol

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