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    John Lucas, Malcolm Thomas, and Erik Murphy.

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    I guess we really want to keep Scola, we got so many power forwards :/.

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    I guess we really want to keep Scola, we got so many power forwards :/.
    Minnesota'd have no interest in Scola anyway. it's all about getting small deals Minnesota can immediately dump for zero dollars to make the money work, that's it.

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    Minnesota'd have no interest in Scola anyway. it's all about getting small deals Minnesota can immediately dump for zero dollars to make the money work, that's it.
    That's the point, Scola is unguaranteed, so they can just waive him for 1 million, and his contract is bigger, so might be more helpful in working with salary.

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    That's the point, Scola is unguaranteed, so they can just waive him for 1 million, and his contract is bigger, so might be more helpful in working with salary.
    It is partially guaranteed. 2 million of his 4.9 million is guaranteed

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    I really enjoy the trade ideas that come from these discussions about West, Roy, Scola and Lance.
    However, that is not the way the Pacer's FO operates! We don't make trades for value. We only trade young, cheap talent with promise for burnt out, old players. We also occasionally trade off the heart and soul of the team for a couple of square pegs to jam into our round holes. What the Pacers have done since Bird has been in charge, IMO, is find young hustle players, keep them for 4 years and let them walk away for nothing. Did we even make an effort to trade McBob, Tyler, Lance or any of the draft picks we have had? We wonder why players bomb here, go someplace else and have decent to career seasons at the next place they go. Maybe because we help players improve their game, thank them for their time and say good bye? SMH! Am I wrong or is our best trade of the Bird/Walsh era ?been Green and Plumlee for Luis's 1/2 season? Seems we can find'em but we can't keep'em or replace'em when we give'em away.

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    I really enjoy the trade ideas that come from these discussions about West, Roy, Scola and Lance.
    However, that is not the way the Pacer's FO operates! We don't make trades for value. We only trade young, cheap talent with promise for burnt out, old players. We also occasionally trade off the heart and soul of the team for a couple of square pegs to jam into our round holes. What the Pacers have done since Bird has been in charge, IMO, is find young hustle players, keep them for 4 years and let them walk away for nothing. Did we even make an effort to trade McBob, Tyler, Lance or any of the draft picks we have had? We wonder why players bomb here, go someplace else and have decent to career seasons at the next place they go. Maybe because we help players improve their game, thank them for their time and say good bye? SMH! Am I wrong or is our best trade of the Bird/Walsh era ?been Green and Plumlee for Luis's 1/2 season? Seems we can find'em but we can't keep'em or replace'em when we give'em away.
    Who are you referring to that we can't keep? Lance and McRoberts, ok so we have lost 2 in the last 5 years that we really wanted to keep (did we even want McRoberts back)? We kept Paul George, kept George Hill, kept Roy Hibbert, kept David West. We lost the other starter, its not that unordinary.

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    Who are you referring to that we can't keep? Lance and McRoberts, ok so we have lost 2 in the last 5 years that we really wanted to keep (did we even want McRoberts back)? We kept Paul George, kept George Hill, kept Roy Hibbert, kept David West. We lost the other starter, its not that unordinary.
    I think [Removed, not needed] about trading Granger. Thus the "heart and soul" comment. Don't agree about that, by the way.

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    That's the point, Scola is unguaranteed, so they can just waive him for 1 million, and his contract is bigger, so might be more helpful in working with salary.
    Yeah, but unless the Cavs added Haywood to the deal (which they don't want to do), they wouldn't be able to trade Scola for 2 months. Lucas, Thomas, and Murphy they can trade right away.

    EDIT: Although the Cavs signed Joe Harris to a 3 year deal today, so Murphy can't be traded for 2 months.
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    I really enjoy the trade ideas that come from these discussions about West, Roy, Scola and Lance.
    On this topic... I've never understood this phenomenon of posting trade ideas.... other than just the sheer novelty of it.

    It's not like any employee of any pro team sits around scanning the internet waves for trade scenarios and exclaims, "Wait! Guys! A mega-trade idea just came across the wire from a poster named SomeRandomSchmoe on PacersDigest, and I think he's on to something --- we need to pursue this ASAP. Let's get a conference call going now, wake everyone up, fire up the projector in the war room, who's got Phil Jackson's cell? Hey you, Jennifer, order in 16 bags of pork rinds, a keg of mountain dew and and load up the beer fridge, let's do this."
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    On this topic... I've never understood this phenomenon of posting trade ideas.... other than just the sheer novelty of it.

    It's not like any employee of any pro team sits around scanning the internet waves for trade scenarios and exclaims, "Wait! Guys! A mega-trade idea just came across the wire from a poster named SomeRandomSchmoe on PacersDigest, and I think he's on to something --- we need to pursue this ASAP. Let's get a conference call going now, wake everyone up, fire up the projector in the war room, who's got Phil Jackson's cell? Hey you, Jennifer, order in 16 bags of pork rinds, a keg of mountain dew and and load up the beer fridge, let's do this."
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    Who are you referring to that we can't keep? Lance and McRoberts, ok so we have lost 2 in the last 5 years that we really wanted to keep (did we even want McRoberts back)? We kept Paul George, kept George Hill, kept Roy Hibbert, kept David West. We lost the other starter, its not that unordinary.
    Hibbert and George had no choice, Hill is probably overpaid, so the one legit retain is West.

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    up to you to decide if he was serious

    We do RT @jamesasteven: @dmorey Do nba GMs (to your knowledge) ever gain trade/transaction ideas from online message boards/fans? Daryl Morey (@dmorey) March 25, 2014
    It's Morey, explains a lot. Think he hits refresh on Grimp's Twitter every 5 seconds.
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    Three point shooting is the reason.

    Shooters are getting paid this year's FA that is for sure.
    Marvin Williams went 84-234 from 3 last year.

    Josh McRoberts was 105-291. Plus 8-17 in their 4 playoff games.
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    Look's like Roy's going nowhere..
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    Is Roy growing a Swaggy P hairdo?
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    Look's like Roy's going nowhere..
    Larry said he wanted Roy working with a great, well its Kareem.

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    Look's like Roy's going nowhere..
    If he was going to learn from someone, Kareem would be a great choice. Maybe he can perfect the skyhook.

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    Look's like Roy's going nowhere..
    Roy needs a haircut haha, or is he bringing the fro back from his Georgetown days?

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    Look's like Roy's going nowhere..
    When did this come about? Roy working with Kareem. Maybe I just missed it.

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    Anyone else think Roy is looking much trimmer?

    And how long has it been since anyone has seen Roy smile?

    I may be grasping here, but I am somewhat encouraged by these things.

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    Larry said he wanted Roy working with a great, well its Kareem.
    Something satisfyingly cool about that. (Read: respect.)
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    That picture is encouraging.

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    I hope Roy can pull it together, rooting for him even though I rip on him when he misses layups

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