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I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

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  • I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

    All two games of it. Was it even two games? Basically all Portland game of it I guess. Now the officials arent making foul calls again and the NBA needs to reassess the flagrant foul rules and Eric Spoelstra doesnt know how to draw up offensive plays. Dwayne Wades leg hurts again all of a sudden. At least they didnt pull the whole array of excuses out after this one game..

    OH WAIT! They did.

    I love this rivalry, but the way the Heat act when it pertains to the Pacers, is kind of embarrassing. The way they talk. Especially Chris Bosh. They way he talks so glib about these games before they're played. The Bosh comment when he was asked if Oden was a Hibbert stopper. " Was he going crazy before ", Bosh said. Well actually, yes Chris. He's dominated you in the last 13 games of this rivalry.

    I want to respect these guys like i might have respect for the Patriots when it comes to Colts v Pats rivalry, but they make it really really hard.

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    Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

    With Dwayne Wade on the Heat's roster it will be impossible to ever respect them.

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      Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

      none of this stuff matters to me. I just want to win.

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        Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

        Hey, I am a foreigner so I am allowed to tell you that this guys name is Dwyane not Dwayne

        I am just happy that we won and that Chris Bosh took 6 threes in the game, way to replace Ray Allen out there...talk the talk walk the walk.
        GO PACERS!

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          Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

          Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
          none of this stuff matters to me. I just want to win.
          True, but when the Heat go whining after the game, it makes me nervous about officiating in the next game.

          Probably the biggest bunch of babies ever assembled as a face of the league. Bosh is a moron "punches and clotheslines." Are you ****ing kidding me?

          LeBron is whining about a flagrant that knocked a 7 footer out with an elbow to the jaw. Pathetic, what do you expect to get? Free throws after elbowing someone?

          I really despise the Heat, I can't wait for LeBron to leave them for dead this off-season, and I can't wait for LeBron to retire so we can have a superstar face of the league who doesn't go cry about officiating after a loss.
          #LanceEffect

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            Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

            Originally posted by khaos01207 View Post
            True, but when the Heat go whining after the game, it makes me nervous about officiating in the next game.

            Probably the biggest bunch of babies ever assembled as a face of the league. Bosh is a moron "punches and clotheslines." Are you ****ing kidding me?

            LeBron is whining about a flagrant that knocked a 7 footer out with an elbow to the jaw. Pathetic, what do you expect to get? Free throws after elbowing someone?

            I really despise the Heat, I can't wait for LeBron to leave them for dead this off-season, and I can't wait for LeBron to retire so we can have a superstar face of the league who doesn't go cry about officiating after a loss.

            I hope you can ​wait, because he isn't going anywhere.

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              Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

              Originally posted by khaos01207 View Post
              True, but when the Heat go whining after the game, it makes me nervous about officiating in the next game.

              Probably the biggest bunch of babies ever assembled as a face of the league. Bosh is a moron "punches and clotheslines." Are you ****ing kidding me?

              LeBron is whining about a flagrant that knocked a 7 footer out with an elbow to the jaw. Pathetic, what do you expect to get? Free throws after elbowing someone?

              I really despise the Heat, I can't wait for LeBron to leave them for dead this off-season, and I can't wait for LeBron to retire so we can have a superstar face of the league who doesn't go cry about officiating after a loss.
              You say you agree with Uncle Buck, then proceed to post exactly what he disagrees with.
              There is no NBA player named Monte Ellis.

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                Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

                I despised those 2000's Pistons teams, but I could at least respect their persona. They had a bad boy tough attitude that was pretty authentic for the most part. They were old school. Easily hateable - one of my most disliked sports teams ever - but I could at least grudgingly respect them.

                I can respect Lebron's out of this world historic talent, but my respect for the Heat mostly ends there. Everything about the Heat is so contrived. I've never seen a sports team act as entitled as these guys. They constantly whine on the court, flop, have annoying mannerisms, feel that every opponent should bow before their greatness, and have super douchey pre/post game comments. They've been acting like this long before they won a championship. This behavior started the moment they all signed and had that extravagant party at the AAA.

                This is why I love Lance. The Heat hate Lance because he refuses to lick their sack. In fact, he does quite the opposite. He is completely disrespectful to them and taunts them. It's hilarious, and it certainly elevates his play. This is what an old school rivalry should be like. Wade looks generally befuddled that a player like Lance has the audacity to challenge him.

                We're going to have our work cut out for us to actually beat them four times in a series though. The stuff between Wade and Lance last night shows that the refs have a pathetic bias towards a player like Wade. These guys will definitely have run ins in the playoffs, but the deck is severely stacked against Lance because the refs will get on their knees and lick Wade's sack. He summoned the refs to call that T on Lance, and they responded like an obedient dog obeying his master. And this was in Indy, mind you. It will get much worse when we get back down to South Beach. The NBA wants the Heat to win a third straight ring so that the Heat join the Bulls, Lakers, and other teams who have 3-peated. They want to keep the Lebron-Jordan comparisons in full swing.
                Last edited by Sollozzo; 03-27-2014, 11:57 AM.

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                  Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

                  Originally posted by boombaby1987 View Post
                  You say you agree with Uncle Buck, then proceed to post exactly what he disagrees with.
                  I agree that I want them to win, and I don't want the PLAYERS thinking about this stuff, I want them to keep their mind on winning and nothing else.

                  I just hate the Heat, on the other hand, and their whining concerns me. A normal person will call their ********, but NBA refs can't
                  #LanceEffect

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                    Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

                    So thing for me is once you start treating it like another game that is when we will conquer the idea of the Heat, meaning too much of the focus seems to be aimed at beating the heat, not towards playing good team basketball day in and day out. Beating the heat is cool, but our goal should be focused on a championship and beating whoever stands in the way.
                    Why so SERIOUS

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                      Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

                      Also will say there were a lot of weird calls in this game and a lot that didn't get called, seemed like the refs were letting them be physical on both sides.

                      My only big gripe with the officiating was if you are going to let people play physical and you know the game is intense then there is no need to call that Tech on Lance.
                      Why so SERIOUS

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                        Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

                        Originally posted by Sollozzo View Post
                        I despised those 2000's Pistons teams, but I could at least respect their persona. They had a bad boy tough attitude that was pretty authentic for the most part. They were old school. Easily hateable - one of my most disliked sports teams ever - but I could at least grudgingly respect them.

                        I can respect Lebron's out of this world historic talent, but my respect for the Heat mostly ends there. Everything about the Heat is so contrived. I've never seen a sports team act as entitled as these guys. They constantly whine on the court, flop, have annoying mannerisms, feel that every opponent should bow before their greatness, and have super douchey pre/post game comments. They've been acting like this long before they won a championship. This behavior started the moment they all signed and had that extravagant party at the AAA.

                        This is why I love Lance. The Heat hate Lance because he refuses to lick their sack. In fact, he does quite the opposite. He is completely disrespectful to them and taunts them. It's hilarious, and it certainly elevates his play. This is what an old school rivalry should be like. Wade looks generally befuddled that a player like Lance has the audacity to challenge him.

                        We're going to have our work cut out for us to actually beat them four times in a series though. The stuff between Wade and Lance last night shows that the refs have a pathetic bias towards a player like Wade. These guys will definitely have run ins in the playoffs, but the deck is severely stacked against Lance because the refs will get on their knees and lick Wade's sack. He summoned the refs to call that T on Lance, and they responded like an obedient dog obeying his master. And this was in Indy, mind you. It will get much worse when we get back down to South Beach. The NBA wants the Heat to win a third straight ring so that the Heat join the Bulls, Lakers, and other teams who have 3-peated. They want to keep the Lebron-Jordan comparisons in full swing.

                        This is one of my favorite posts of all time here. Basically.... that.

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                          Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

                          Originally posted by Really? View Post
                          So thing for me is once you start treating it like another game that is when we will conquer the idea of the Heat, meaning too much of the focus seems to be aimed at beating the heat, not towards playing good team basketball day in and day out. Beating the heat is cool, but our goal should be focused on a championship and beating whoever stands in the way.
                          Is that you Frank?

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                            Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

                            They only said no MORE excuses. They didn't say they would make less

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                              Re: I really enjoyed the Miami Heat- No More Excuses era while it lasted

                              I have never seen a more entitled team than The Miami Heat. It's pathetic.

                              And I'll say it again..Kobe Bryant was suspended for 2 games after he hit Miller with an elbow. Where's Lebron's suspension? And where are his fines for flopping?

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