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    Default At what point does it become more than a "slump?"

    14 games left to figure it out before the playoffs.

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    Default Re: At what point does it become more than a "slump?"

    Would you rather just proclaim that the team sucks and declare the season lost?


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    Default Re: At what point does it become more than a "slump?"

    I said it in the game thread and I'll repeat it here.

    I have lost faith in this team. I love them, but I've lost faith in them.

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    Default Re: At what point does it become more than a "slump?"

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    Would you rather just proclaim that the team sucks and declare the season lost?
    How is this in any way, shape, or form, relevant to what Shade posted?

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    Default Re: At what point does it become more than a "slump?"

    Quote Originally Posted by neosmndrew View Post
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    Would you rather just proclaim that the team sucks and declare the season lost?
    You must have missed this thread:

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthre...014-edition%29


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    Default Re: At what point does it become more than a "slump?"

    1) Road game
    2) NY is hot
    3) They just got Phil Jackson
    4) NY hit some circus shots.

    Really not a big deal. File it, move on.
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    Default Re: At what point does it become more than a "slump?"

    The reason people like me are optimistic and calling this a slump is because we don't like thinking about the alternative. The Heat are slumping just as hard as we are right now. It happens, some times for longer than others.


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    WTF???
    Bottom third in the league of scoring in the paint!?
    With as much size as you can wish for.

    That must be fixed.

    Hill is no kind of passer.
    At least two or three times every game I see make-able passes to deeply posted players that just aren't thrown.

    Hibbert has the confidence of a puppy.

    PG has the confidence of Larry Bird... and the outside shooting of... (someone far, far inferior).

    DWest is the only consistent scorer, but hey we need to feed our superstar (3 for 18 tonight maybe?) MOST of them stupid shots.

    We can't pas the ball more than twice per possession without a turnover!!

    We have never scored on a possession after a called time out. I think we're 0 for 346.
    HIRE A GOOD O COACH!!

    Every first quarter we start out with the attitude "well I couldn't toss it in the ocean yesterday, but today i'll be money".

    I barely recognize this team from the one that started the season.

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    Default Re: At what point does it become more than a "slump?"

    Tonight I thought we could have played a lot better. That said, we played a hot team on the road. Even when we were playing "good" basketball, it took a foul on a Paul George 3 point attempt to send the game into OT for us to win against these guys earlier this year. That's also when the Knicks were playing some terrible basketball, too.

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    Default Re: At what point does it become more than a "slump?"

    We lost 5 of 6 last year to finish the season, including ugly losses at home to OKC and Brooklyn, and road smashings at the hands of the Knicks and Wizards.

    I still have complete faith in this team come playoff time.

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    I don't know if it's a slump anymore, maybe we just aren't that good?

    The all-world defense is no longer there, and our offense is a train wreck. It would be one thing if guys were worn out and had tired legs, but I'm not seeing the same energy and effort for a team that preaches "Blue Collar. Gold Swagger". It's a long season, but these guys better find whatever it is soon. Time is running out.
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    Slump all they want, I know come playoff time, everyone freakin' out now will not be singing the same tune. They'll get it goin.
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    I don't understand this myself. Championship level teams do not play down to the level of their competition. At different points during the last couple of weeks we have trailed to the Sixers (twice), the Celtics, the Pistons (by 25!!!), and the Bucks. We have lost to the Bobcats, the Rockets, and Mavericks (who all leveled us). We are better that this; These games should not be hard for us, and wouldn't be if we just played the we know we can. We need to figure this out and soon...

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    Default Re: At what point does it become more than a "slump?"

    Turner with a very mediocre game. Unfortunately, I do not believe the bench issues will be resolved this season. Indiana desparately needs a shooter... a new offensive system wouldn't hurt either.

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    It is more than a slump. But it will be obvious when (if) they break out. They'll start the game locking down on D. Teams will hit a brick wall. That will lead to transition and easy points on offense. They'll build a 10 point lead. You'll feel confident they won't give it up because their D will be that ruthless with a 10 point lead.

    This was pretty much the case until just before the ASB. Can it be again? I hope so. But that's how it is. When their D is as dominant as it should be, and leads to offense, they'll stop slumping. Unfortunately, their D has been inconsistent at best, and philosophically-abandoned at worst.

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    The reason people like me are optimistic and calling this a slump is because we don't like thinking about the alternative. The Heat are slumping just as hard as we are right now. It happens, some times for longer than others.
    the heat are two time defending champs. this team does not deserve the benefit of the doubt like the heat. the reality is we got an inflated record because we play the EC. when the pacers played 3 straight nba finals.. then the fatigue excuse has merit.

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    Default Re: At what point does it become more than a "slump?"

    When we actually have a bad showing in the playoffs.

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    We lost 5 of 6 last year to finish the season, including ugly losses at home to OKC and Brooklyn, and road smashings at the hands of the Knicks and Wizards.

    I still have complete faith in this team come playoff time.
    Exactly. I don't know how many times I have to say that we lose faith in this team every year during the regular season only for them to elevate their play when the playoffs come around. The sky isn't falling until the Pacers are eliminated from the playoffs.

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    Championship level teams do not play down to the level of their competition.
    Yes, they do. They do it all the time. Just look at Miami. Look at the Lakers in the 00-01 season. No team goes 100% throughout the regular season. Only the Bulls do that.
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    Maybe they just aren't that good. They only won 49 games last season. The Knicks won 54.

    My point is we were no where near as good as 33-7 that we started, but we are better than we look right now.

    Pacers are one of the better teams in the NBA, but probably not as good ad the Heat, thunder and Spurs. But as good as any of the other teams. Really, isn't that what 90% of us thought before the season?

    is that so bad?

    will still win close to almost 60 games this season. How many predicted more than that?

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    I think Paul George needs to sit down.

    It's clear his back is giving him trouble. We don't need anything from him as much as we need him to be healthy in the playoffs.
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    Maybe they just aren't that good. They only won 49 games last season. The Knicks won 54.

    My point is we were no where near as good as 33-7 that we started, but we are better than we look right now.

    Pacers are one of the better teams in the NBA, but probably not as good ad the Heat, thunder and Spurs. But as good as any of the other teams. Really, isn't that what 90% of us thought before the season?

    is that so bad?

    will still win close to almost 60 games this season. How many predicted more than that?
    I'd agree with this to an extent. We were playing some grinding lockdown defense earlier in the year, and maybe that level of play was unsustainable for an entire 82 game season. Maybe this team was playing over its head and has fallen back to Earth, and without that stellar defense tablesetting our offense...we're starting to see how much of a train wreck our offense really is by itself.

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    I love Coach Vogel but if Rick Carlisle were available to coach this team right now I would take it as a Pacers fan. Someone mentioned teams playing hard and that eh Bulls are the only ones, Carlisle's team in 03 that won 61 games I believe played hard nite in nite out.

    I fear Vogel offensive side of the equation is not good nuff to get this team a chip. I hope im wrong. I believe we have more offensive talent on this roster than the team Carlisle had an 03, it just seems like Vogel is not maximizing it to the fullest.

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    Yes, they do. They do it all the time. Just look at Miami. Look at the Lakers in the 00-01 season. No team goes 100% throughout the regular season. Only the Bulls do that.
    The difference between us and Miami is that if Miami wanted to blow out a team they could do it with out thinking twice. Miami isn't playing down to the level of their competition they just don't care until the playoffs. We have stated on several occasions that we want the #1 seed in the East and are willing to kill our selves to do it. However i doubt right now that we could blow out a team if we really wanted to...

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    Turner with a very mediocre game. Unfortunately, I do not believe the bench issues will be resolved this season. Indiana desparately needs a shooter... a new offensive system wouldn't hurt either.
    You mean a shooter like Copeland or Butler? And not Mahimi and random scrubs like Sloan? We need Watson healthy and Vogel to get his head out of his anus.
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