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    Default 3/19/2014 Game Thread #68: Pacers Vs. Knicks

    FICKS THE KNICKS


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    Season Records: (W-L)
    50-17
    Away: 19-13
    East: 33-7
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    Projected Starting Lineup:
    HIBBERT
    WEST
    GEORGE
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    Projected Starting Lineup:
    CHANDLER
    STOUDEMIRE
    ANTHONY
    SMITH
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    PACERS
    Andrew Bynum – Sore Right Knee (out)
    C.J. Watson – Right Hamstring Strain (out)

    KNICKS
    Andrea Bargnani – torn ligament, left elbow (out)
    Kenyon Martin – sore left ankle (out)


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    The New York Knicks have had 25 head coaches in their
    68 seasons of professional basketball. And likely a 26th
    in the not so distant future, even though current coach
    Mike Woodson ranks fourth all-time in win percentage.
    Which former Pacer coach ranks last in Knicks history?

    A. Larry Brown

    B. Bob Hill

    C. Isiah Thomas
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    Hardwood Paroxysm:
    Caleb Nordgren: The Glorious Knicksing of the New York Knicks

    The New York Knicks are, even at the most basic level, inherently absurd. They are the
    only NBA team named for an article of clothing,* which is impressive if for no other
    reason than there apparently was a discussion once upon a time in which someone
    essentially suggested naming a basketball team the New York Pants — or the New
    York Underwear, depending on who you ask — and everyone apparently was OK with
    this. Somewhere along the line, shortened from Knickerbockers, which is actually a
    word that means something, to Knicks, which is a word in the sense that it is now a
    part of the English language even though nobody I’ve ever met can tell you what it
    means. Well, aside from “it’s short for Knickerbockers,” which, you know, yes, but
    that’s not how definitions work.

    *Except maybe the Los Angeles Lakers, but since nobody knows what the hell a
    “laker” actually is, we’re going to leave them out of this. As a matter of fact, let’s
    just leave the Lakers out of the NBA this year. Nobody will miss them.


    Anyway, this year’s Knicks are absurd even against a backdrop where their name is
    the Knicks and everyone just accepts this. I also don’t really understand why that is.
    I didn’t understand the Knicks when they were actually good last season, and I sure
    as hell don’t understand them this year now that they’re bad. What I do know is that
    they took a team that had a definite identity built around a truly elite scorer in Carmelo
    Anthony, and then they Knicksed it all up. Out went Chris Copeland, Steve Novak and
    Jason Kidd — players with identifiable skills and defined roles on a team that won 54
    games — and in came Andrea Bargnani, Metta World Peace, and Beno Udrih — players
    who seem like they should be good but have not managed to actually be good in New
    York. Coincidentally, two of the three players I just named are no longer with the team,
    and the other one has been hurt for a while and the team is probably better for it. Oh,
    and then there was Chris Smith, which would have been the most Knicks thing about
    this season had the Knicks not lost a game in February to the Orlando Magic in part
    because a Tyson Chandler reverse dunk bounced off Tyson Chandler’s head and back
    out the way it went in and was thus disallowed. The Knicks!




    Back in October, before the season started and before Derrick Rose’s other knee
    buckled and another piece of my soul died, I wrote but never published a piece on the
    Knicks based on the premise that they were inherently boring compared to the rest of
    the Eastern Conference. Sadly, I no longer have said piece, but I remember writing
    something along the lines of, “It’s hard to argue that the Knicks are better than the
    Heat, the Bulls, the Pacers or the Nets, but it’s also hard to argue they’re any worse
    than the fifth best team in the conference.”

    Yeah...about that...

    These days, the Knicks are the winners of five straight games and a decent candidate
    to make the playoffs in the wretched East despite spending the vast majority of the
    season doing things like “relying on Andrea Bargnani” and “starting Raymond Felton at
    point guard” and “being hilarious.” They also appear to be Phil Jackson’s newest
    project, though nothing’s official yet, and they still have plenty of time to dick this up.
    For all your Phil Jackson-related coverage, I implore you to read this piece from Kevin
    McElroy
    right now. In fact, you go do that, and I’ll wait here.

    Rather than waste a couple of lines pretending to wait for you to come back, I’m just
    going to move on because I’m writing this in the past and you’re reading this in the
    future, so for all I know you just went and fed your dog and masturbated and made
    yourself a sandwich — hopefully in that order, I guess? Maybe not. — and lord knows
    I don’t have time to sit around and wait for you to do all that. And just in case you
    decided to do all that instead of reading the piece like I asked you to, I will now
    excerpt what is possibly my favorite paragraph I’ve read in a while:

    Such is life for the Knicks, a franchise who seems to bring in a new
    savior as often as most of its competitors bring in new ballboys.
    Once-in-a-generation scorer Bernard King gave way to can’t-miss-
    future-Hall-of-Famer Patrick Ewing who was joined by four-time-
    champion Pat Riley who was replaced by former-Coach-of-the-Year
    Don Nelson whose stewardship was far too brief to work under
    greatest-pure-point-guard-ever Isiah Thomas who hired former-
    NBA-champion Lenny Wilkens who was fired in favor of winner-at-
    all-levels-and-coacher-of-The-Right-Way Larry Brown whose
    disastrous tenure led to his replacement by Thomas himself before
    David Stern tore him from James Dolan’s death grip in favor of no-
    nonsense-basketball-lifer Donnie Walsh who hired offensive-mind-
    of-his-generation Mike D’Antoni who was reunited with proclaimer-
    that-the-Knicks-are-back Amar’e Stoudemire who accepted the
    role of second banana behind guy-who-grew-up-idolizing-Bernard-
    King-and-holy-****-time-is-circular Carmelo Anthony. Each of these
    men came in with pedigree to spare and each was hailed as a
    bringer of a new era and each has baked a big, doughy New York
    bagel where the championship ring was supposed to be.

    From the outside, I have trouble understanding what it must be like to be a Knicks fan.
    The Bulls can be dysfunctional — it was only four years ago that our GM got into a
    literal fistfight with our head coach, which if it happened with the Knicks would be
    front-page news for months, if not longer — and frustrating, but in the last decade,
    they’ve had exactly one sub-.500 season, and that season netted them Derrick Rose.
    The Knicks, on the other hand, went an entire decade without so much as winning a
    playoff game, and brilliantly tanked the season immediately before possibly the most
    loaded draft since LeBron and company in 2003, only to discover they had no pick in
    said draft. Were I a cruel man, I would note that they also traded the picks that
    became LaMarcus Aldridge and Joakim Noah for Eddy Curry — thanks for that, by the
    way — but instead I’m going to move on.

    I cannot fathom the pain...CONTINUE READING AT HARDWOOD PAROXYSM


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    We have to get back to establishing our dominance in the league...not even the Knicks are scared of us now.

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    Default Re: 3/19/2014 Game Thread #68: Pacers Vs. Knicks

    Who cares about "scared" I'll take the win. Miami just barely beat Cleveland and has lost 5 of 8, guess noones scared of them either. How many points you beat bad teams by matters very little. OKC and Miami don't go all out wasting energy beating every bad team by 30 instead of 10 either.

    Regardless it's simply reality that sometimes the beat teams have a hard time "getting up" for lesser competition. I was disappointed by the 3rd quarter meltdown vs. Houston. This is a pretty hyped game with NY winning 6 straight and trying to prove that Phil Jackson is the harbinger of a new era in NY. I think the guys come out with a bit of fire to start the next stretch of quality opponents coming up leading into the playoffs on a good note. The D was much better last night despite missing a million easy shots, and Detroit showed that we absolutely can lock down when we flip the switch. Let's see if we can put together some more impressive whole games and stretch our lead vs. Miami. If we can get it up to 5 or so we may be able to rest paul and david a few games which I think is important going forward.
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    Can't watch the replay on this one one, so I be lurkin'. Hope it's better than some of the other nationally TV'd games.

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    Man I was not nervous about this game until now lol no idea why. I hope we don't choke

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    Knicks have won 6 in a row and definitely get up to play us. That and being on the road we're going to have to play much better basketball to win tonight.
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    The Phil Jackson lovefest will make the ESPN broadcast borderline unbearable. Hyperbole all over the place.

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    Btw west just tapped the ball to the ref... no call...


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    Hibbert just got beat off the dribble by Amare Stoudemire.

    Amare. Stoudemire.

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    Default Re: 3/19/2014 Game Thread #68: Pacers Vs. Knicks

    I don't like when we start with every shot coming from outside. I'd like to see the ball move to the paint to start the game.

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    Default Re: 3/19/2014 Game Thread #68: Pacers Vs. Knicks

    I really dislike Lance sometimes lol

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    And Lance jacks another 3

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    Is ESPN or MSG network?

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    PG STOP ALL THAT ****IN DRIBBLING!

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    Man the Knicks look old.

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    OMG

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    Is ESPN or MSG network?
    Only a fool would expect them to talk much about the Pacers tonight. This is 100% fan service night for the Knicks. So many hypothetical wet dreams to talk about...what Phil can do, will Carmelo stay, can Phil lure Durant...
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    I see the Knicks are still employing the head-snapping strategy to draw fouls.

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    Is ESPN or MSG network?
    MSGN Network


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    No rebounding. That plus the turnovers is killer. The Knicks should be up by way more.

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    Need to move the ball more.

    I think we will figure out the Knicks by the half on the defensive end.
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    Lance hasn't been right since the ASB.

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    HIBBERT put your A** on Chandler and BLOCK HIM OUT! 3 offensive rebounds given up by Hibbert. Why is Hibbert so damn soft.

    BOX OUT PLEASE.

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    Wow


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    We are so stupid

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