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    we'll be all good as long as Miami loses. Rockets are rolling

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    we'll be all good as long as Miami loses. Rockets are rolling
    Would have been nice to extend our lead though. Especially with us playing another game tomorrow. A situation we are notorious for being bad in. And extra minute of effort tonight could have extended our lead

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    Also something needs to be fixed with this league, when Warriors are calling for the intentional foul cause their player has a bent finger. Hill knows this and takes a shot and draws the fouls, makes the shot, and then the refs wave it off. That was utter BS officiating, and they absolutely took 4 pts from us.
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    You really can't admit that game was bad can you.
    See, I didn't really think it was a bad game. I feel the biggest problem was that we just didn't execute late in the game. I saw positives in that we didn't turn the ball over an excessive amount of times, we held Golden State 5 points under their season average, and fought hard with our defense to get back into a game that not many teams in this league would have been able to. There were certain aspects of the game where we could have improved, but I don't feel it was a disaster or a poor all-around performance by any means. I thought we played a lot poorer in the last few games we won than we did tonight.

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    And this is why people were concerned with the lackluster performances against Milwaukee, Boston etc.....
    They shouldn't be connected with each other. If anything those lackluster performances saved us energy for tonight. Energy that we didn't particularly use.
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    I just wish we didn't have to focus just on the 4th quarter to either win a game or try to win a game. There are 3 other quarters, you are allowed to play them all.
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    Dam man

    Don't want to be too sided one way or the other but its not the loses or the close victories, but the way you play. I might be off but the last game I remember being encouraged was the Houston game. Im starting to, unfortunately, think some of the Pacers (umm cough George cough) are getting caught up in the hype when we havent won nada.

    Im a little upset with Vogel, as I think he is not pullin the right strings. I think PG needs some time off between now and the playoffs, and I feel Vogel has to try anything different with the bench.

    Also I dont think the Turner for Granger thing has anything to do with the way their playing. To me this has been a pattern since Houston and maybe the competition being less than stellar lately , leads to complacency and taking games for granted.

    What I would do, right or wrong is sit Roy and start Mahimi for a few games. Talk with big Roy and reassure him , tell him he needs some rest, cause the big fellow is not performing like the weapon he is. I would also think about putting Turner as the back up PG. He would focus more on play making, reducing his tendency to shoot, and allowing CJ , who I think is much more effective as a 2 guard , play that role

    Not 100% sure whats going on but this is the first time I can remember when I am legitimately concerned
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    And I said this in the game thread, but this team is incapable of winning more than 5 in a row recently.. Since they had the 9 and 7 game winning streaks to start the season, they have lost after the 5th win four consecutive times.
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    Also something needs to be fixed with this league, when Warriors are calling for the intentional foul cause their player has a bent finger. Hill knows this and takes a shot and draws the fouls, makes the shot, and then the refs wave it off. That was utter BS officiating, and they absolutely took 4 pts from us.
    Those plays are the worst. Change the rule or the call the foul. Chris Paul is the master of anticipating the foul and putting a shot up but never gets rewarded.

    Anyway, we played like *** all game and then played a BRILLIANT last 5 minutes until the final three possessions. It's really hard to be upset about things when this team can put stretches like that together.

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    And I said this in the game thread, but this team is incapable of winning more than 5 in a row recently.. Since they had the 9 and 7 game winning streaks to start the season, they have lost after the 5th win four consecutive times.
    Perfectly fine with me. All we need is 4 wins in the a playoff series

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    I didn't like the rotation at the start of the 4th quarter. The bench wasn't good tonight and the only thing that managed was to dig us an even deeper hole. Frank has shown the ability to adapt to a bad situation and shake the rotation up a bit but he didn't do it tonight.

    Other than that, the biggest reason that the Warriors won was their bench. Klay Thompson was huge as well, obviously, but it was the bench that got them that lead in the first place. Our D in the last five minutes was great, though. That's good to see. On the other hand, if our D was better than it was in the rest of the game then we could have won as well.

    In general, we could have done some things differently but we should tip our hats to the Warriors as well. They played well enough to win tonight. I hate losing at home and this loss does hurt (especially since it's against a WC team) but they played a very good game.
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    Perfectly fine with me. All we need is 4 wins in the a playoff series
    Touche. Its more of just something I noticed as opposed to criticizing them.
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    Also something needs to be fixed with this league, when Warriors are calling for the intentional foul cause their player has a bent finger. Hill knows this and takes a shot and draws the fouls, makes the shot, and then the refs wave it off. That was utter BS officiating, and they absolutely took 4 pts from us.

    The officials were bad tonight all around.

    Very blatant no calls when other team was getting those same calls, all sorts of weirdness going on.

    Yes, I would say most of it hurt the Pacers, but there were some weird calls both ways.

    Not that it was the difference or anything. But it was very apparent.

    We REALLY needed to go 2 for 1 in the last 45

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    Dam man

    Don't want to be too sided one way or the other but its not the loses or the close victories, but the way you play. I might be off but the last game I remember being encouraged was the Houston game. Im starting to, unfortunately, think some of the Pacers (umm cough George cough) are getting caught up in the hype when we havent won nada.

    Im a little upset with Vogel, as I think he is not pullin the right strings. I think PG needs some time off between now and the playoffs, and I feel Vogel has to try anything different with the bench.

    Also I dont think the Turner for Granger thing has anything to do with the way their playing. To me this has been a pattern since Houston and maybe the competition being less than stellar lately , leads to complacency and taking games for granted.

    What I would do, right or wrong is sit Roy and start Mahimi for a few games. Talk with big Roy and reassure him , tell him he needs some rest, cause the big fellow is not performing like the weapon he is. I would also think about putting Turner as the back up PG. He would focus more on play making, reducing his tendency to shoot, and allowing CJ , who I think is much more effective as a 2 guard , play that role

    Not 100% sure whats going on but this is the first time I can remember when I am legitimately concerned

    Well one thing Vogel can do is put freaking Copeland in the Line up at the 3 off the bench. This bench has to score points. We have no 3pt shooters on the bench and they aren't playing any real Defense anyways. Who in the bench line up can knock down the 3? Nobody. So they sit there and run the same freaking play over and over with Scola hoping his shot is on that night. Or Lance takes it himself. Don't even get me started on Evan Turner, what a hack. Dude has no sack, all i've seen him do is pull up for contested 10ft jumpers. Sometimes he hits them. Sometimes he misses them. No consistency.
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    It's clear that our bench personnel isn't the problem.

    Luckily, we have a front office guy that seems to see exactly what we see a lot of the time. He knows its not the talent on the bench, its the coaching. Bird knows all.
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    Bold prediction: This is the game that lights a fire under our ***

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    Also something needs to be fixed with this league, when Warriors are calling for the intentional foul cause their player has a bent finger. Hill knows this and takes a shot and draws the fouls, makes the shot, and then the refs wave it off. That was utter BS officiating, and they absolutely took 4 pts from us.
    yea but then they called it a foul when PG slipped lol

    it was bad all around though

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    I felt the game was called entirely too tight. Too many fouls on both ends, which really hurt the flow of the game.

    Gotta hand it to Klay Thompson, he was a beast tonight. However, kudos to the team for battling back and showing a lot of fight and heart late. Regardless of the score, they never quit.

    Also outside of Scola, the bench really gave us nothing tonight.

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    It's clear that our bench personnel isn't the problem.

    Luckily, we have a front office guy that seems to see exactly what we see a lot of the time. He knows its not the talent on the bench, its the coaching. Bird knows all.
    Bird needs to demand that Vogel bring in a offensive assistant coach this off-season. There is no excuse the lack of any real system that we run. These guys can't even get into a set with out the shot clock running down.
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    Hate to break it to some of you but the Pacers weren't gonna finish the season with thirty straight wins.

    Big picture, we've at least split the season series with every contender or fringe contender (SAS, MIA, LAC, HOU, POR, GSW) besides OKC.

    Can't get bent out of shape about losing a tight one to a good team.

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    Looking at the stats, it's amazing how close this game truly was. What is a little bit reassuring, is the last 5 minutes of lockdown defense. It still exists, Pacers just choose not to play it the majority of the time now.
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    It's clear that our bench personnel isn't the problem.

    Luckily, we have a front office guy that seems to see exactly what we see a lot of the time. He knows its not the talent on the bench, its the coaching. Bird knows all.
    It's not the bench personel, we're barely playing them and when we do a starter is the #1 option on the floor. We need to change the rotations and in spite of tonight, Vogel needs to give more minutes to the bench. I don't care if it's giving Copeland a shot or giving Evan more minutes but we need a deeper rotation at the wing. We also need to have someone other then Lance play most of the minutes with the second unit.

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    Looking at the stats, it's amazing how close this game truly was. What is a little bit reassuring, is the last 5 minutes of lockdown defense. It still exists, Pacers just choose not to play it the majority of the time now.
    Isn't that just what kills you? This team can lock down for 5 mintues get back into a game down 12. But they won't bring that intensity for an entire qtr?
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    Beasley has more points than our whole bench in 4th q versus rockets

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    Isn't that just want kills you? This team can lock down for 5 mintues get back into a game down 12. But they won't bring that intensity for an entire qtr?
    Yep and just another minute of it would have won the game thats what is so frustrating

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