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    CLIPPERS SIGN FORMER ALL-STAR DANNY GRANGER





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    The Los Angeles Clippers announced today that they have signed free agent forward Danny Granger. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.

    Granger, 30, appeared in 29 games (two starts) this season with the Indiana Pacers averaging 8.3 points, 3.6 rebounds and 1.1 assists in 22.6 minutes per game. He played his entire eight-year NBA career with the Pacers. He holds career averages of 17.6 points, 5.1 rebounds and 2.0 assists in 544 games (425 starts) over 32.5 minutes per game.

    The New Orleans native has appeared in 22 playoff games (19 starts) throughout his career, averaging 15.6 points, 5.5 rebounds and 2.4 assists over 34.8 minutes per game. Granger’s best season with the Pacers came in 2008-09 when he averaged a career-high 25.8 points to go along with 5.1 rebounds and 2.7 assists while averaging 2.7 three-pointers per game. For his efforts, he was selected to the Eastern Conference All-Star team and was voted the NBA’s Most Improved Player.

    Originally drafted 17th overall in the 2005 NBA Draft, Granger started his collegiate career at Bradley where he played for two seasons. He transferred to the University of New Mexico after his first semester of his sophomore year and played two seasons for the Lobos. A First Team All-Mountain West selection, Granger was the only player in the NCAA that averaged 18.8 points and 8.9 rebounds while also averaging at least 2.0 blocks (2.1), 2.0 steals (2.0) and 2.0 assists (2.0) his senior season.


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    Good for him. I'd say the same if he joined the Heatles, though.

    May hit a big corner 3 for them in a playoff game. Other than that....

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    They needed another forward badly. It's a good fit really. Another leader or veteran voice in that locker room wouldn't hurt either.
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    It sounds like a heck of an opportunity for Danny on a contending team. That said, if he doesn't play defense I can't see him getting much more time under Doc Rivers.

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    It sounds like a heck of an opportunity for Danny on a contending team. That said, if he doesn't play defense I can't see him getting much more time under Doc Rivers.
    Defense hasn't been Danny's problem since his return

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    Defense hasn't been Danny's problem since his return
    Have you seen him play any defense since his return?

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    Have you seen him play any defense since his return?
    Yes, specifically against his new teammate Blake.

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    Have you seen him play any defense since his return?
    Yes. Plenty. Hell, one of his first plays back was blocking Dwight Howard. And that stat about players he has been guarding have only been shooting 30% against him. So yeah, Danny has been playing defense.

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    Danny wasn't guarding the better shooters. He was effective guarding the post and playing smart help defense. He knows how to play the game. But he did NOT have the foot speed to guard the better wings. He was coming off the bench playing bench players or players who were not quick on the floor and explosive scorers. That job went to Lance and Paul.

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    Danny wasn't guarding the better shooters. He was effective guarding the post and playing smart help defense. He knows how to play the game. But he did NOT have the foot speed to guard the better wings. He was coming off the bench playing bench players or players who were not quick on the floor and explosive scorers. That job went to Lance and Paul.
    False. Danny guarded Wes Matthews pretty well in the POR game, he did a decent job against Parsons in the HOU game..just two examples off the top of my head. (Obviously he played Blake really well defensively, but that was in the post as you suggested) I read in another thread on here that opponents were shooting 30% against Danny this year (IIRC) That's pretty elfin good.

    When he played with the starters PG guarded the other teams bst perimeter player just as he does whenever he is on the floor.

    Danny May not be a "stopper" but he's played fairly well defensively. The idea that you need great foot speed to be an above average defender is silly. Ask Ron Artest or Bruce Bowen how much foot speed you need to be a good defender. Danny isn't anywhere close to their level obviously, but he's far from the lousy defensive player you're trying to make it seem.

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    Looks like Doc was worth that first rounder.

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    Yes. Plenty. Hell, one of his first plays back was blocking Dwight Howard. And that stat about players he has been guarding have only been shooting 30% against him. So yeah, Danny has been playing defense.
    He can't stay in front of anyone. Congrats on the selective use of statistics. He often got beat, requiring a help man to cover his guy thus breaking the defense down. Watch a replay of the Twolv game or any other for that matter.

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    Danny chose the team were he would get major minutes and still be able to contend. He wouldn't want to go to a team where the go to guy played the same position as he does like Miami or OKC. Danny will be able to help the Clippers a great deal IMO and he should be their best sf. As far as defense he'll be a big plus their as well. Some of you make it sound like he just stood around on defense. Danny never was as quick as Paul or Lance but he's played better D then either of them in several of our last 15 games. If anyone wants Danny to do poorly in L.A. and I really think some do, you're going to be disappointed. I think he's going to look very good over the next few months and put up better numbers then we'll get out of Even unless Vogel gets off his rigid rotations.

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    False. Danny guarded Wes Matthews pretty well in the POR game, he did a decent job against Parsons in the HOU game..just two examples off the top of my head. (Obviously he played Blake really well defensively, but that was in the post as you suggested) I read in another thread on here that opponents were shooting 30% against Danny this year (IIRC) That's pretty elfin good.

    When he played with the starters PG guarded the other teams bst perimeter player just as he does whenever he is on the floor.

    Danny May not be a "stopper" but he's played fairly well defensively. The idea that you need great foot speed to be an above average defender is silly. Ask Ron Artest or Bruce Bowen how much foot speed you need to be a good defender. Danny isn't anywhere close to their level obviously, but he's far from the lousy defensive player you're trying to make it seem.
    In order to guard wings, you need good lateral speed and he doesn't have that. He wasn't quick before and he's noticeably slower now. Very rigid. The fact is, Lance and Paul started on the wing and if Danny got minutes against starters it was at a time he was fresh and they were not. It's clear by watching Danny Granger that he is a step slow. It's not hard to see that.

    Edit: BTW, if Granger was really that capable on D he would not have been traded. It's all about winning this year and if he were really getting his legs back the team would have placed their bet on him because we need perimeter shooting BAD. That would come back to him given more time if he really had his legs back. Turner isn't the better player if Granger is the player some of you describe.
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    Being a step slow doesn't mean you're terrible defensively though. Yes he's a step slow, but the fact that opponents he guarded shot 30% means SOMETHING? IDC who he's guarding.

    In spite of that fact though, unbiased eyes could tell that Danny played more than adequately defensively this year. Nobody is saying he will go to the west and be a defensive stopper. He's an above average on the ball defender, and a very good help defender. Nothing more or less at this point.

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    Being a step slow doesn't mean you're terrible defensively though. Yes he's a step slow, but the fact that opponents he guarded shot 30% means SOMETHING? IDC who he's guarding.

    In spite of that fact though, unbiased eyes could tell that Danny played more than adequately defensively this year. Nobody is saying he will go to the west and be a defensive stopper. He's an above average on the ball defender, and a very good help defender. Nothing more or less at this point.
    It means Roy Hibbert was backing him up and he was playing against backups most of the time. He is ABSOLUTELY not an above average on the ball defender. If he was still this good defensively, he would NOT have been traded because Turner wouldn't have been an upgrade.

    He's a very good help defender in the paint right now and a smart, experienced player. He can definitely guard the post against any SF and most PF's right now. That should be his niche. He will never be an elite SF again. He's not one of those good, older players who usually land on the Spurs and that's at best.

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    You know why he was traded? We are making a run for a title and he will not be effective against James and particularly Wade. Those guys are experienced and will use that slow foot speed to draw fouls every time. Let's just hope Danny backs up Blake in LA and enjoys himself there.

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    You know why he was traded? We are making a run for a title and he will not be effective against James and particularly Wade. Those guys are experienced and will use that slow foot speed to draw fouls every time. Let's just hope Danny backs up Blake in LA and enjoys himself there.

    They also signed Big Baby Davis. Those two should help them. Having Chris Paul on your team should be a good thing for Danny.
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    It means Roy Hibbert was backing him up and he was playing against backups most of the time. He is ABSOLUTELY not an above average on the ball defender. If he was still this good defensively, he would NOT have been traded because Turner wouldn't have been an upgrade.

    He's a very good help defender in the paint right now and a smart, experienced player. He can definitely guard the post against any SF and most PF's right now. That should be his niche. He will never be an elite SF again. He's not one of those good, older players who usually land on the Spurs and that's at best.
    If Danny was going against backups then Roy wasn't backing him up. Ian was. People see what they want to see. I saw an above-average defender who hadn't gotten his legs under him offensively. His only value here was defense, but the bench needed scoring, so we went and got Turner.

    I see in the OJ thread joey said OJ was a good defender. I thought OJ played no defense and only came in and jacked up shots. George Hill can't stay in front of his man to save his life, but he is known as a good defender. Again, people see what they want to see.

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    So we are basing a guys defensive ability on how effectively he can guard Lebron or Wade? If that's the case then there are very few good defenders in this league.

    We traded Danny so that Turner can guard those two guys? Yeah I'm not buying that at all. Danny was traded due to Turners abilities offensively and the fact that we will re-sign him if Lance takes big money from another team.

    Players are shooting 30% because Roy is guarding the paint? If that's the case then why aren't players shooting that low of a percentage against PG or Lance?

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    So we are basing a guys defensive ability on how effectively he can guard Lebron or Wade? If that's the case then there are very few good defenders in this league.

    We traded Danny so that Turner can guard those two guys? Yeah I'm not buying that at all. Danny was traded due to Turners abilities offensively and the fact that we will re-sign him if Lance takes big money from another team.

    Players are shooting 30% because Roy is guarding the paint? If that's the case then why aren't players shooting that low of a percentage against PG or Lance?
    We acquired Turner because Granger isn't likely to recover this year to help us get past Miami. He's not shooting it well enough and he's not capable of guarding either DWade or LeBron this year. Turner has the foot speed to at least put up some resistance and the ability on offense to make DWade work and be an adequate backup to Lance and Paul. That's really all this is about. Granger is not an adequate backup to either of them. Not on offense or defense. The only thing Granger has shown this year is the ability to guard the 4, particularly in the post.

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    This is going to be a very interesting playoffs, especially in the West.
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    Despite whatever anti-danny calendar this thread is already infected with, DG33 is twice the defender Lance is and he has shown that very recently.
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    Danny's defense wasn't the reason he was dealt, he's was still good enough in that facet of this game. It was his offense. He had been reduced to a spot-up shooter who wasn't shooting all that particularly well. The Pacers needed a "microwave" or at least someone to pack some scoring punch off the perimeter to pair with Scola in the second unit. Turner gives us a much more dynamic offensive weapon, who's far more spry at this point in his career.

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    Discussions like this really tell who watches and analyzes the game, vs. who looks at stat sheets at night.

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