Disrupting the starting five, a line up which has been one of, if not the best line up in the NBA the past few seasons to keep a bench player is just a horrendous idea.
Its really mind blowing to see how under appreciated Hill is by a lot of Pacers fans. Go back and watch that Knicks game where we lost without him. Just a horrendous game.
And if we bring in Rondo or Lowry we aren't keeping Lance and ET, so whats the point of that?
The point for me would be IF you're gonna move one of those players, you'd wanna get something back in the league of Rondo or Lowry. I could see a deal where Turner or Lance (most likely Turner)....is moved with Hill for a Rondo or Lowry + a backup 2 guard. Or a backup scorer. Again I think it's too early to talk about this because I wanna see what happens this season. And if this team wins it all, or gets to an NBA Finals game 7, bringing everyone back IS an option. Or should at least be strongly considered.
Ultimately, what we'd all like to see is we keep Evan and Lance. We also keep Hill as the backup pg. Then we replace him with Rondo. Also, we could get Danny back...
Then we realize theres this issue called money.
And reality hits us again
Stop quoting people I have on ignore!
Why so SERIOUS
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...
Also I will add on the Hill issue, there were times which most were not convinced he was even a point guard and some still aren't.
Honestly when is the last time you saw him make a list of the top PGs in the league, top 15 top 20, heck even top 25... most really do not care for him as a PG.
Why so SERIOUS
Everyone knows Hill is a combo guard. But are there really 15-25 players on this list that you would rather have at the helm than him? http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...n/point-guards There are 10 players on that list that I would take over Hill. Does that make Hill the 11th best PG? No. But when I think about this team and what he brings to it, there aren't many guys I would take over him. And while I say Deron Williams and Kyrie Irving are better than Hill, and are in the 10 I previously mentioned, I am wondering would they fit in even? Probably not.
Do not under estimate the sacrifices Hill makes statistics wise being with this starting five. Same as David West.
Also Turner is not a full time point for the same reasons as Lance.
Letting a bench player walk isn't breaking up a championship team. Trading its starting point guard away is though.
I just don't like the idea of trading for this kid. And letting him walk in the off-season. I think, well..........wish we could keep our squad together for many years like the Spurs have. Bench and starters.
I think D. Will and Kyrie are more talented scorers than Hill but D. Will is made of glass and Kyrie is more erratic than a drunken hooker on an out of control carousel. I would take Hill over BOTH. But not over Rondo. Or Lowry. Rondo would take this team to another level. Lowry looks for his offense more. And has a better off the dribble game. But will probably be over-priced this Summer.
The Spurs don't go much further than Duncan, Parker & Manu over the years. IE: CORE.
Pick 3. You can't have 4.
By the way, the answer is 4 players. The Spurs only have 4 players on their roster today who were on the roster in 09-10. Matt Bonner being the 4th guy.
I think if you move Hill and Turner. And then we let go of Scola, Cope, or maybe Ian, we could make a trade for Rondo. That's about the only upgrade I'd see. So it could be Hill and Turner for Rondo. Or Hill and pieces for Rondo. But some people on here seem to believe a Rondo/Lance backcourt would be counter-productive. Hill is due 8 mil in the next 3 years. Rondo is due 11 mil in the next 2 years.
But what if we moved Lance to starting SF and PG to starting 2? Think he (Lance) could handle it? So while again it's too early to discuss this issue. My stance on the issue is if we let Turner go at season's end, we could move Hill and him, or Hill and other pieces for Rondo. Then re-sign Lance.
Last edited by Grimp; 02-26-2014 at 05:30 PM.