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    so you've never gotten dome?

    uh you apparently don't know what you are talking about..

    not the same thing, even remotely...
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    How is that? I accept their equal rights but at same time I don't have to like what they do nor condone it ... that is not contradictory..
    I'm guessing it was your use of the word "condone."

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    I find it fascinating that up until the 1960's, it was completely societally acceptable to separate human beings based on the color of their skin. Luckily, people realized how asinine that idea truly was and fought to change it.

    You know what else people thought? Smoking did no damage to you're lungs.

    You know what else people thought? The idea of creating something that could prevent you from getting a certain type of disease

    The whole basis of science is that is constantly evolving......How can you possibly argue some 40 year old Scientific theory by people who clearly didn't know what they were talking about?
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    I find it fascinating that homosexuality was considered a mental illness up until the mid-1970's, when pressure from activists -- not scientific research -- forced it to be redefined. Perhaps scientists are right and activists are wrong. Just a thought.

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    I always side with the evidence (data). Sometimes scientists get it right, and sometimes they let external, unscientific factors bias their interpretation of said data. That's the unfortunate huge, gaping hole in science.
    Ok, wheres the 2014 evidence that homosexuality is a mental illness? Give me literally any reputable source.
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    Your words are not facts? Not sure why you think I can't read...

    This thread is going to be locked/deleted soon anyway sooooooo....
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    uh you apparently don't know what you are talking about..

    not the same thing, even remotely...
    Lots of education happening here tonight. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sodomy

    Note the third word of the first definition...

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    Dude, the DSM is hardly scientific.

    I thought NBA players, with Bryant, Durant, and Lebron leading the way..handled this really really well. Much better than the NFL did..

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    Ok, wheres the 2014 evidence that homosexuality is a mental illness? Give me literally any reputable source.
    I don't know whether it is or not, I'm only giving some food for thought.

    As for your question: The definition(s) for mental illness/disorder are dubious as they rely on a lot of subjectivity.

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    A mental illness can be defined as a health condition that changes a person’s thinking, feelings, or behavior (or all three) and that causes the person distress and difficulty in functioning.
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    Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior.
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    A mental disorder, also called a mental illness or psychiatric disorder, is a mental or behavioral pattern or anomaly that causes either suffering or an impaired ability to function in ordinary life (disability), and which is not developmentally or socially normative
    Looking at the above three definitions, I can certainly see a case being made for homosexuality being a mental disorder. If that makes me a homophobe, then so be it. Personally, I don't see why homosexuality -- or anything else -- should be considered off limits to critical thinking, although I do understand the dangers of not conforming to political correctness.
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    I don't know whether it is or not, I'm only giving some food for thought.

    As for your question: The definition(s) for mental illness/disorder are dubious as they rely on a lot of subjectivity.






    Looking at the above three definitions, I can certainly see a case being made for homosexuality being a mental disorder.
    Those definitions apply to literally any human behavior on earth. Way too broad.
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    I guess it would depend on what "edition" of whatever dictionary YOU are looking at.. and which ones are more liberal leaning... Since they always are constantly changing the meaning of words to fit whatever a word is defined as at the time of publishing... They just simply added the word "oral" in order to make the argument against sodomy backfire in the arguers face...

    sorry NOT buying it
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    Those definitions apply to literally any human behavior on earth. Way too broad.
    Don't shoot the messenger.

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    In regards to this whole "story"

    WHO GIVES A RAT'S BUTT??!!??

    I am so sick and tired of this pushed in my face I could puke....

    Oh yea , it is such a groundbreaking moment to promote an openly gay sodomite like it is the "cool" thing ...

    Calgon take me away ...
    Sodomite? Are you for real? lol

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    I guess it would depend on what "edition" of whatever dictionary YOU are looking at.. and which ones are more liberal leaning... Since they always are constantly changing the meaning of words to fit whatever a word is defined as at the time of publishing... They just simply added the word "oral" in order to make the argument against sodomy backfire in the arguers face...

    sorry NOT buying it
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy
    "Sodomy /ˈsɒdəmi/ is generally anal sex, oral sex or sexual activity between a person and a non-human animal (bestiality), but may also include any non-procreative sexual activity."

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sodomy
    "Anal or oral intercourse between human beings, or any sexual relations between a human being and an animal, the act of which may be punishable as a criminal offense."

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sodomy
    ": anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex"

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sodomy

    "anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex."

    google.com
    "sod·om·y- sexual intercourse involving anal or oral copulation."

    So, no, it's not just some liberal biased agenda...
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    Don't shoot the messenger.
    It's just a dumb argument to be honest. No rational human being is arguing that homosexuality is a mental disease.
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    uh you apparently don't know what you are talking about..

    not the same thing, even remotely...
    Technically I'm not sure you know what you're talking about.

    Sodomy, if we want to get technical about it, includes any sexual act that is not procreative. So his questions, however crass, is technically accurate.

    Sadly you walked into it by believing that sodomy is only referring to a sexual act that would be inherently homosexual in nature.

    Annnnyway, I can sense this thread getting closed very soon.

    Also, I think calling Jason Collins or any homosexual a sodomite is pretty freaking homophobic especially since you're definitely not doing it as a compliment and also don't understand the full definition of the word.

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    Technically I'm not sure you know what you're talking about.

    Sodomy, if we want to get technical about it, includes any sexual act that is not procreative. So his questions, however crass, is technically accurate.

    Sadly you walked into it by believing that sodomy is only referring to a sexual act that would be inherently homosexual in nature.

    Annnnyway, I can sense this thread getting closed very soon.

    Also, I think calling Jason Collins or any homosexual a sodomite is pretty freaking homophobic especially since you're definitely not doing it as a compliment and also don't understand the full definition of the word.
    But he believes in equality!
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    Default Re: Jason Collins about to sign 10 day contract with Nets expected to start tonight vs Lakers

    This is a solid section of Jason Gay's article from the WSJ.

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...390943942.html


    That's the basketball part. Let's assess the history here. I think the signing of Jason Collins is history. To be truthful, I'm not super-interested hearing in a crabby chorus from the Who Cares crowd—whenever you engage on a topic like Jason Collins, you inevitably hear from the Who Cares crowd. I know the people who chirp Who Cares like to position this Who Cares as evidence of some sort of ultra-detached free thinking, but saying Who Cares about something like Jason Collins signing with an NBA team sounds a lot more like a socially acceptable way of diminishing the news, stripping Collins of his due and a genuine moment of its joy. Who Cares doesn't sound like an honest rendering of this event or its impact. It sounds like being a crank. This is not to say that everyone needs to be excited or jumping up and down because the Nets have signed Collins to a 10-day contract. But it is to say that some people will find true inspiration in this moment. Just because something is not meaningful to you doesn't mean it's not meaningful.

    Jason Collins to the Nets is a big deal. Don't let anyone pooh-pooh its big deal-ness. Also: Since when have we become so calm and restrained about what we consider huge news? This country thinks it's a big deal we can binge-watch an entire season of "House of Cards" over the weekend. There are cable networks that break into actual news with fake news about teenage popbot Justin Bieber getting pulled over in his canary-colored lovemobile. I'm perfectly OK—thrilled—with the idea of the first openly gay person in the history of major U.S. professional sports being categorized as a big deal. I'm OK with it getting a banner headline on the websites and news crawls.
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    I guess it would depend on what "edition" of whatever dictionary YOU are looking at.. and which ones are more liberal leaning... Since they always are constantly changing the meaning of words to fit whatever a word is defined as at the time of publishing... They just simply added the word "oral" in order to make the argument against sodomy backfire in the arguers face...

    sorry NOT buying it
    LOL Those liberal dictionaries, ruining our damn country.

    Is Merriam Webster conservative enough for you? http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sodomy

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    Conform, conform damnit...

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    It's not this one , it is the constant media love-fest with the whole gay agenda...

    I believe to each their own, and everyone should have the same rights... But , if I don't like something I consider to be abhorrent (sp?) and sickening , I am forced to have to either like it , or keep my mouth shut for fear of persecution of being considered a homophobe.. And sorry I won't condone sodomy in any form, nor promote it..
    It's a free country dude. We still have guys walking around in white hoods that we don't arrest so long as they aren't specifically harassing anyone. Nobody's forcing you to "like" anything. Believe it or not, you're not being persecuted here.

    FYI, what you just said was blatantly homophobic. Have you ever heard or read anyone refer to you as "abhorrent" or "sickening?" How would you interpret that? I'm guessing you'd find it pretty hateful.

    But that's okay, we have those too in this country.

    Civil rights. It's a *****.
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    no I am NOT afraid of gays lmao.. I don't even dislike them...matter of fact I have a family member who is ... but I DO dislike their behavior.. and yes I find their sexual behavior "SICKENING AND ABHORRENT" .......... BEHAVIOR..... stop putting words in my mouth, I said BEHAVIOR... you don't like it lump it ...... since it seems I have to "lump it" by hearing all this praise for all these brave souls who come out the closet ...

    And yes, when our kids are being taught in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL , for instance, how 2 guys butt humping each other is a perfectly A-OK and it is A-OK for them to "experiment" .. YEA SICKENING AND ABHORRENT BEHAVIOR..... Have you seen the stuff they are teaching kids as early as 1st and 2nd grade in some of these schools? Sorry , but tolerance AND ABSTINENCE should be taught ............NOT a how-to guide in indoctrinating young children in the ways of homosexuality...
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    Do you often call people you don't dislike "abhorrent" and "sickening? Their behavior is part of who they are. That's how they are wired. You can't really separate the two. I'm not into that kind of thing, but I'm not into a lot of things other people are, and I've never felt the need to be that emphatic about my dislike for someone else's preference.

    There's no secret gay school where kids go to be converted into homosexuals. Either you're born that way or you aren't. Nobody is trying to convert children like its some sort of cult. Even if there was, you can't "convince" someone that they're gay any more than you "convince" a gay guy that he should be straight. Would a gay 2nd grade teacher be wrong if he pushed his sexuality on children? Obviously. Just like a straight teacher would. There are a lot of dishonorable teachers out there. I don't think gays corner the market.

    This story about the infestation of gay teachers pushing their gayness on young children is totally out of left field, btw. You referenced exactly none of that in your earlier generalization.
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    I nominate this thread be closed, because this is getting real ugly real fast... And I am not gonna sit here and entertain nor concede the notion that type of behavior or lifestyle , should be something that should be praised .. Love the sinner hate the sin remember that from the Bible? oh, I must be in the minority here who actually read and believe in such things... my bad..
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    if their behavior is such I will say their behavior/actions are sure.... and I have
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    I have seen the materials myself so don't tell me...

    just by doin a quick search


    http://groundspark.org/download/IE_Guide_08_Final.pdf


    http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/05...chool-parents/

    excerpt:

    A group of parents in a California school district say they are being bullied by school administrators into accepting a new curriculum that addresses bullying, respect and acceptance -- and that includes compulsory lessons about the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community that will be taught to children as young as 5 years old.


    http://www.massresistance.org/media/...inwashing.html
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