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    Default I think this is why they Got Turner

    He did play really well against Miami in this game. Of course that was very early in the season.


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    He attacks the basket. I like it. He will do very well in draw and kicks for Cope and Scola.

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    He can't shoot very well, but he can get to the basket and create for others. Should be a very good 6th man

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    Default Re: I think this is why they Got Turner

    Reggie Miller called him a smoother version of Lance Stephenson. Which means he's not that great of an outside shooter.
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    He can shoot, just not from 3. He hits the baseline jumper really well, iirc, thats a nice place to get your shot and puts tons of pressure on the defense. Not really alot of the guys on the roster who are threats from there at this point either. Dude's strong, but not fast.

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    Default Re: I think this is why they Got Turner

    Wonder if they'll squeeze in a press conference today before the team flies out to Milwaukee.

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    Turner can shoot. He's just not as smooth and automatic as a Melo or Durant or not even PG. But he can shoot.

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    Default Re: I think this is why they Got Turner

    Those clips are fine. But only two of the 10 plays or so were in a halfcourt situation, all the others were in transition.

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    Larry got him to help us win. I also think he got him to send a message to a certain player that he needs to start taking care of the ball, stop forcing awful shots and tone down the theatrics. Just a hunch.

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    They got Turner because he was one of the better players available and he was had by the Pacers for pretty much nothing.

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    He can shoot, just not from 3. He hits the baseline jumper really well, iirc, thats a nice place to get your shot and puts tons of pressure on the defense. Not really alot of the guys on the roster who are threats from there at this point either. Dude's strong, but not fast.
    Yea when I said he cant shoot I meant the 3 pt shot, he has a pretty good mid range shot

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    Those clips are fine. But only two of the 10 plays or so were in a halfcourt situation, all the others were in transition.
    Most were in half court situations

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    Most were in half court situations
    we have a different definition of what is halfcourt vs what is transition then. Transition does not only mean a fastbreak. I consider transition as secondary breaks and open court situations. I counted only two what I consider halfcourt situations offense against a set defense- 5 on 5.
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    we have a different definition of what is halfcourt vs what is transition then. Transition does not only mean a fastbreak. I consider transition as secondary breaks and open court situations. I counted only two what I consider halfcourt situations - 5 on 5.
    I consider it a Half court situation if the defense is able to recover before the score

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    Anyone think this could be similar to the Chauncey Billups situation? Top 3 pick who struggles his first few years. Finally gets on a team with a great supporting cast and his career takes off.

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    Anyone think this could be similar to the Chauncey Billups situation? Top 3 pick who struggles his first few years. Finally gets on a team with a great supporting cast and his career takes off.
    I'm not sure, but that would be beautiful lol

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    we have a different definition of what is halfcourt vs what is transition then. Transition does not only mean a fastbreak. I consider transition as secondary breaks and open court situations. I counted only two what I consider halfcourt situations offense against a set defense- 5 on 5.
    I hate breaking down small video clips so I will spare you the time with some synergy stats since you gave me some delicious hot wings.

    Turner gets about 20% of his production from transition offense (0.9 ppp). For a frame of reference Lance per synergy gets 19% with the same ppp.

    Lance and Turner strengths are similar with a few exceptions which could totally be due to environment and coaching or lack thereof.

    Lance is better in isolations (.99 ppp vs Turner 0.78 ppp) while Turner is better as a pnr ball handler ( 0.84 ppp to Lances 0.78 ppp).

    Their percent spot up plays run are the same while Lance is better at them (Turner 0.9 ppp to Lances 1.03 ppp).

    In a nut shell Lance is a better player obviously which I think we all knew but I wanted to provide a frame of reference so you could compare the strength of weaknesses of both with the obvious caveat of coaching differences.

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    Default Re: I think this is why they Got Turner

    Here's ET's shot chart for those interested.


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    Here's ET's shot chart for those interested.

    He has a decent Midrange game.....just don't make him stand in the Corner and take 3pt shots.

    I just hope that we start to use Copeland more if we want to spread the floor....this would help with giving Scola some rest.
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    Here's ET's shot chart for those interested.
    He'd be shooting so much better from the midrange if he didn't take so many pull up fade away jumpers off the dribble. Infuriates me when guys like he and Paul force such unnecessary shots.

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    Anyone think this could be similar to the Chauncey Billups situation? Top 3 pick who struggles his first few years. Finally gets on a team with a great supporting cast and his career takes off.
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    Of all the places to have such terrible percentages, he's got them at the free throw line and the corner three? Aren't those usually the high percentage spots for everyone else? weird...

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