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    I don't know if it's been said yet but the Pacers traded their 2014 draft pick in the Scola trade. That means that they cannot trade their 2015 pick.
    I thought it was you couldn't trade subsequent first round picks in the same deal?
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    I thought it was you couldn't trade subsequent first round picks in the same deal?
    Nope, you can't trade subsequent at all. You can swap, but that would be useless for a team to do with us.

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    Default Re: Could Pacers get Rondo in a trade?

    maybe we can get Avery Bradley for George Hill
    Why so SERIOUS

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    I know its a little risky , but if we were to go after Rondo, I would say do it in the off season

    I haven't run the numbers but it would be something like:
    George Hill, Mahimi, 1st round pick and their choice of Solomon Hill/OJ for Rondo and filler

    I have no idea if they would do this, but thats all I would offer , and I would NOT do it this year
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    Default Re: Could Pacers get Rondo in a trade?

    You guys do realize that moving multiple players salaries for one players salary will end up hurting the Pacers financially, right? More money, or even same money, spread over less players just drives up the probability of going over the LT.
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    Default Re: Could Pacers get Rondo in a trade?

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    I imagine Avery is still good but his game has fallen off thanks to so many changes in Boston. Kids probably just needs a fresh start. And as for Toronto, well.....I'd rather have Bradley as my starting PG than Jeff Teague. Who they were rumored to be interested in.
    Bradley has basically turned exclusively into a shooting guard. The Celtics were even playing Crawford at the point guard spot before Rondo came back. The Raptors would not be getting a point guard back by receiving Avery Bradley, regardless of what his position is listed as on a website. Every game I've seen him play for the Celtics recently I've never once witness him playing in a true point guard role.

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    You guys do realize that moving multiple players salaries for one players salary will end up hurting the Pacers financially, right? More money, or even same money, spread over less players just drives up the probability of going over the LT.

    Marvin Williams expiring contract would take care of that. However, that's ONLY if the deal went down in the next 24 to 48 hours. Which it won't so....moot point.

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    I know its a little risky , but if we were to go after Rondo, I would say do it in the off season

    I haven't run the numbers but it would be something like:
    George Hill, Mahimi, 1st round pick and their choice of Solomon Hill/OJ for Rondo and filler

    I have no idea if they would do this, but thats all I would offer , and I would NOT do it this year




    I agree. I just posted that trade scenario since we were on the subject. But a Rondo move should happen in the off-season for 2 reasons.......


    1. Rondo now is still trying to regain his all-star form. Rondo in the 2015-2016 season will be THE Rondo everyone remembers. Why trade for rehab Rondo now for a championship run, when you can get him healthy, training camp, etc in the off-season?



    2.I wouldn't shake up the team now when we have a legit shot at a title this season. I'd just make a small move, and add shooters to the bench in exchange for offensively anemic players like Granger, and move on with trying to win the NBA crown.

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    Default Re: Could Pacers get Rondo in a trade?

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    Marvin Williams expiring contract would take care of that. However, that's ONLY if the deal went down in the next 24 to 48 hours. Which it won't so....moot point.
    You would have to replace his body on the bench next year. Sure, you can sign a D-leaguer for pennies. But that guys better not need to see a second of action...

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    You would have to replace his body on the bench next year. Sure, you can sign a D-leaguer for pennies. But that guys better not need to see a second of action...
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    What would be the point?

    Yes, Rondo's a great point guard, but he's not a great fit playing next to PG / Lance. Remember what happened when you put Nash next to Kobe? Why would you add another ball-dominant guard like Rondo when George Hill plays off ball so well and is such a great fit for what we're doing?

    If you're trading for Rondo, you're giving up Lance/Hill/Granger. And he's not worth that, especially not this far into a title run.
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    I certainly hope not.

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    How do people think if you add a great player it will hurt your team... there is no way that Rondo does not help this team... most fans on this post have never played basketball so they lack understanding... I guess i get that... but if you dont beleive Rondo would improve this team then you are sadly mistaken....

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    How do people think if you add a great player it will hurt your team... there is no way that Rondo does not help this team... most fans on this post have never played basketball so they lack understanding... I guess i get that... but if you dont beleive Rondo would improve this team then you are sadly mistaken....
    You think it's worth it to blow up the PG position mid-season for Rondo though? I'd rather wait till the Summer to get Rondo, so he can have training camp and all the other REPS with our team. IF the front office wants to blow up the PG position for an upgrade now, Kyle Lowry makes more sense. If you trade Hill, you can re-sign him and Lance.

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    Default Re: Could Pacers get Rondo in a trade?

    We wont get Rondo but we could get Jason Terry, he is a vet just traded to a team who is going young. The Sacto papers are even asking will Terry ever play for the Kings and their answer is I don't know. Larry get on the phone with them Cope & Solomon Hill for Jason Terry I am ALL for this. Throw in Donald Sloan while you are at it. We are playing for a title this year and Terry would help off the bench.

    Oh and he played well against Miami in the finals when he was with Dallas.

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    How do people think if you add a great player it will hurt your team... there is no way that Rondo does not help this team... most fans on this post have never played basketball so they lack understanding... I guess i get that... but if you dont beleive Rondo would improve this team then you are sadly mistaken....
    That's disingenuine. It's not like we're singing a 100% healthy Rondo who's been studying our playbook for a year off the street for free. There are compensation issues that need to be resolved, both in terms of payment and players, as well as chemistry and health issues, all of which can have a negative impact on the team.

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    We wont get Rondo but we could get Jason Terry, he is a vet just traded to a team who is going young. The Sacto papers are even asking will Terry ever play for the Kings and their answer is I don't know. Larry get on the phone with them Cope & Solomon Hill for Jason Terry I am ALL for this. Throw in Donald Sloan while you are at it. We are playing for a title this year and Terry would help off the bench.



    He's too old. Can't shoot anymore. No thanks. Brooklyn thought they were gonna get the same player you think we will get. He was traded because they were wrong. JT is not the same JT of 4 seasons ago.

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    If there was some realistic scenario in which we (a) landed Rondo, (b) kept Lance, Paul, and Roy, and (c) could still re-sign Lance, I'd be all over it. I highly doubt such a scenario is possible.

    Moving George Hill ($8M), Chris Copeland ($3.1M), and Solomon Hill ($1.3M) would cover 95% of Rondo's salary next year ($13M), but losing three players for one brings on potential depth problems, and in all honesty, I highly doubt Boston would be interested in that offer, even with a 1st thrown in. Surely they can do better.

    My guess is, if we offered Lance in a package for Rondo, Boston would be all ears. I'm just not sure I'd be willing to move him for an injury-prone reported headcase like Rondo. Maybe I'm overrating Lance, but I see potential superstardom in his game.
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    How do people think if you add a great player it will hurt your team... there is no way that Rondo does not help this team... most fans on this post have never played basketball so they lack understanding... I guess i get that... but if you dont beleive Rondo would improve this team then you are sadly mistaken....
    What it boils down to, I believe, is what we will lose to gain this great player. Sure we gain Rondo, but the trades being presented would cause us to lose way too much. I can part with two of Danny, GHill, and Lance, but if we trade Danny and GHill and some picks for Rondo we're certainly losing Lance too. Now, I'm not as enamored with Lance with others, but I don't think Rondo+$2MilPlayerA+$2Milplayerb is better than Stephenson+Hill+Granger.

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    If there was some realistic scenario in which we (a) landed Rondo, (b) kept Lance, Paul, and Roy, and (c) could still re-sign Lance, I'd be all over it. I highly doubt such a scenario is possible.

    Moving George Hill ($8M), Chris Copeland ($3.1M), and Solomon Hill ($1.3M) would cover 95% of Rondo's salary next year ($13M), but losing three players for one brings on potential depth problems, and in all honesty, I highly doubt Boston would be interested in that offer, even with a 1st thrown in. Surely they can do better.

    My guess is, if we offered Lance in a package for Rondo, Boston would be all ears. I'm just not sure I'd be willing to move him for an injury-prone reported headcase like Rondo. Maybe I'm overrating Lance, but I see potential superstardom in his game.


    We'd be better off trading Hill in a sign and trade for Kyle Lowry. Hill and pieces for Lowry. Lowry can shoot better for one thing. Although I like Rondo, and we did almost have him if years ago...CP3 had agreed to be traded to Boston. I like Lowry over Rondo these days.

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    We'd be better off trading Hill in a sign and trade for Kyle Lowry. Hill and pieces for Lowry. Lowry can shoot better for one thing.
    Player 1 - 45%, 38% 83%

    Player 2 - 42%, 38% 81%

    Which is which ??

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    Player 1 - 45%, 38% 83%

    Player 2 - 42%, 38% 81%

    Which is which ??

    Percentages don't matter much when it comes to watching actual games. I've seen Lowry shoot amazingly this season. Rondo as I recall only had one big shooting game, which was 40+ vs Miami. Most of his points come on layups or around the basket. But Lowry is a better distance shooter. We need that in crunch time.

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    Percentages don't matter much when it comes to watching actual games. I've seen Lowry shoot amazingly this season. Rondo as I recall only had one big shooting game, which was 40+ vs Miami. Most of his points come on layups or around the basket. But Lowry is a better distance shooter. We need that in crunch time.
    He's comparing HIll and Lowry, not Lowry and Rondo.

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    Percentages don't matter much when it comes to watching actual games.
    Well, first - those numbers are Hill (whom you're trading) and Lowry.

    Second - percentages don't matter ?? Really ??

    Third - Rondo is a career 47%, 25%, 61%.

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    Lowry is more aggressive and athletic along with his scoring prowess. The ball moves better when he's on the floor. I think Lowry and PG would be awesome. But I also think Rondo and PG would be awesome. But ultimately, Rondo would make Hibbert and PG better. Lowry? Not so much.

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