Does anybody have a video of the last play?
NBA.com has really improved; you can now see video of every shot attempt:
Two wide open guys, both good shooters (CJ in the corner, Hill on the wing), to his right.
If Paul is capable of both (and maybe he is not?), I'd rather he try to be less like Kobe, and more like LeBron, in a situation like this.
On the very last play I don't have a problem with what Paul George did. Sure two guys were wide open, but they were at the three point line, not like they were wide open under the basket. Passing the ball to either Hill or Watson would have been OK also. I wish West would have flared out to the corner a little bit and he would have been open for a 15ft jumper, but I understand him trying to get into position for a rebound.
I think what PG did was certainly within the realm of a good decision. Was it the best decision? That is debatable.
Was PG tripled teamed? Certainly not when he was dribbling near the three point line. When PG trook the shot Big Baby came from behind, doubt PG even knew he was back there. Vuc comes out from inside the lane. And PG beats Afflalo.
I have watched and re-watched the play about 8 times in the past couple of minutes. Still don't think it was a horrible, awful or even a bad play. I'll stick with maybe not the best play, but still not a bad play. And yes Big Baby fouled him.
Last edited by Unclebuck; 02-10-2014 at 12:41 PM.
I can't begrudge Paul too much for it though. It was a split second decision, and I think that's generally a decent shot for him. Although he clearly was well defended, and the other guys weren't, I don't mind him wanting to win the game. I also think Glen Davis fouled him, but it all should have been a moot point with Lance Stephenson shooting 2 free throws with 8 seconds left after Davis hammered him on the inbounds.
You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....
Oh well. Our 39-11 record, which seems like crap to us right now, would still be good for the best record in the league during the 50 game lockout season of '99. Two games better than the 37 win Spurs who won the championship.
2017 NBA Champions
Pacers record in the first 30 games
25-5 .833 win %
The next 20 games
14-6 .700 win %
Heat first 30
23-7 .766 win %
Heat next 19 (they've only played 49)
12-7 .631 win %
The team we are most likely to face in the eastern finals is facing the same issues we are and playing worse ball. I don't see how on earth this discussion even gets this far. What would be enough?
Last edited by travmil; 02-10-2014 at 01:07 PM.
Again, what would be enough? How many games should we pick up on them?
Maybe not ALL the same issues, but some issues certainly. The season is long, teams get a lot of time to break you down and see what you do, make adjustments, The Pacers are now the hunted rather than the hunter. They get the other teams best effort, when the game is close that other team is bound to smell blood, hoping to be one of the 11 that has taken down the Pacers. We will see how the final 32 games play out, but even if they drop to .600 win % over the final 32 games that's still 59-60 wins. I dont' think they'll drop. I think they will get it figured out and stay where they are. They have shown they can get things figured out and move past them so we will see. I'm not nearly as worried about the play of any one member of the team as I am about the continuing turnover problems coming from all angles. Thats the one stat they won't get past in the playoffs.
So you're saying that you couldn't stand watching George Hill run the offense on Friday against the Portland Trailblazers? Hill had 8 assists and 1 turnover. The Pacers shot 46% from the field, including 39% from the 3-point line and they scored 103 through 4 quarters which is more than their season average.
It was a bad loss and I'm not happy about it either but I don't understand why anyone would complain about Hill when he had a great game on Friday and he played pretty well throughout the game against Orlando as well. He finished with 12 points on 5-11 shooting and dished out 7 assists with only 1 turnover.
The good part is, I think we'll look sharper again after the all star break. This team needs to pause and regroup.
I understand, but at what point is enough time? 32 more games? My feeling is in the next dozen or so games if Granger hasn't found his game you can't feel he'll find it in the playoffs. If he can't contribute more than 35 & 31% shooting, the other parts aren't that great to make up the difference. This is why I feel Butler should be getting PT as a hedge against Granger not finding his game and giving some rest to PG and Stephenson as well.
Just trade him. His expiring could net you two good pieces. I'd really like us to send Danny and one of our young players (Solo/Orlando) to Cleveland for Deng and Miles. I imagine Cleveland would do it to get a young prospect back.
Then be prepared to lose to Miami again. If your game plan is to rely on your best player, the team with the best individual player is going to win, and you are playing right into the hands of the Heat and Thunder.
Even at 35% Granger is a better player overall player than Butler. Danny's shot has been inconsistent, but he is still contributing at a high level in other ways. If you want to worry about someone's shooting % worry about Scola. If he isn't shooting well he doesn't offer much except for some rebounding.
LOL! I only posted that because word on the street is the Cavs are open to trading everyone except Kyrie these days. Might as well get in on that.