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    It's gotta be Florida, right?

    Ian Report: He put some good effort in on the defensive end (though he couldn't make up for CJ) and really worked for his offensive rebounds. He loses big points for his free throw shooting (2-6), though he was actually in the paint on offense, not something I can say for everyone. The only bench player to not shoot absolutely dreadfully, though he looked tepid before every free throw. Managed to grab onto and then not grab onto a poor pass from Lance in the second. Got taken out a little early for Roy in the fourth after the Magic began storming back. About a 'B', though that may be inflated considering the rest of the second unit.

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    Our bench is better than last year but they weren't good in this game. They were one of the reasons that we lost tonight.
    Mahinmi is playing worse than last year. Scola is worse than Hansborough by a wide margin. And Watson ain't exactly looking like a stellar upgrade over Augustin.

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    So we could draw up a play to get 3 Pacers as open as Hill & Watson?
    In a sense, yes. More to the point, get the young guys calmed down and thinking about the pass. Instead of thinking about the time left on the clock.

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    Our Bench is worse than last year. BTW

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    What did PG do that was so horrible? He made one mistake on the last play of the game. He was good for the most part other than that. I understand the long 3 even though I don't necessarily agree with it. He was 5/7 at that point, and he has been clutch from 3 late in games in the past.

    I'm worried about the Luis Mahinmi pairing. It just isn't good. Luis is unfortunately worthless if he isn't hitting his long mid range jumper. Mahinmi has no resemblance of an offensive game.

    I mentioned this in the GT, but having CJ Watson stand in one position at the top of the key while we run screens is not how the bench unit is going to be successful. Need Lance to be engaged and getting everyone else involved. Unfortunately, he was really bad tonight.
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    Shame we lost, need to win tomorrow!

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    Mahinmi is playing worse than last year. Scola is worse than Hansborough by a wide margin. And Watson ain't exactly looking like a stellar upgrade over Augustin.
    I'm sorry but you're allowing the recent games to clould your judgement a lot.
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    In a sense, yes. More to the point, get the young guys calmed down and thinking about the pass. Instead of thinking about the time left on the clock.
    There is nothing Vogel could've drawn up that would've given us a better chance to win than what we had - a shooter open on the wing, and another open in the corner.

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    I'm sorry but you're allowing the recent games to clould your judgement a lot.
    If by recent games you mean the year 2014 yes, yes I am. Scola started out playing great. But hes been crap for awhile now. And Watson things hes Kobe Bryant and its killing us

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    So basically, unless Scola is hitting his mid-range shot or unless Granger is hitting threes, both players are essentially worthless? Oh boy!

    Though I agree with Brunner that the Pacers aren't using Scola correctly at all. Need to flip what they're doing between Scola & Mahinmi.

    Granger...I know he can still have the occasional great shooting night. But for the most part, I've seen in almost half a season nothing that leads me to believe he's an impact player for this team.
    Yeah, I've felt this way all season in regards to Scola. You've basically made his value completely reliant on mid-range jumpers. If they aren't falling (as they haven't been lately), then he's really not a difference maker.

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    Mahinmi is playing worse than last year. Scola is worse than Hansborough by a wide margin. And Watson ain't exactly looking like a stellar upgrade over Augustin.
    alright...

    I do agree somewhat on the Watson end, though. He started the season so strong but recently his shot selection has been all kinds of awful.

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    There is nothing Vogel could've drawn up that would've given us a better chance to win than what we had - a shooter open on the wing, and another open in the corner.
    Yes, we had open guys, but PG completely missed them because of the ridiculousness of the game situation. Call a time out, settle everyone down and then the good look is found. You could tell as soon as PG got to half court this final play wasn't going to work well. Vogel should have called TO to get everyone on the same page, because they weren't. And this is what we got.

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    I do feel that it's a bit unfair to blame this on Paul George. Yes, his attempt at a shot at the end of the game was horrible. He should have passed to Hill or we should have called a time out.

    But it was his scoring that allowed us to return to the game and have a chance at a game-winning shot in the first place.

    We lost the game at beginning of the 4th. It all happened very quickly but they were able to gain an incredible amount of momentum at that point and rode it as much as they could.
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    alright...

    I do agree somewhat on the Watson end, though. He started the season so strong but recently his shot selection has been all kinds of awful.
    The year of 2014 Scola is playing worse than Hansborough played for us last year

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    If by recent games you mean the year 2014 yes, yes I am. Scola started out playing great. But hes been crap for awhile now. And Watson things hes Kobe Bryant and its killing us
    Still, the last month doesn't suddenly erase the first 2 months of the season. We will see how the bench performs after the ASG and most importantly we will see how they perform when the playoffs arrive.
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    Mahinmi is playing worse than last year. Scola is worse than Hansborough by a wide margin. And Watson ain't exactly looking like a stellar upgrade over Augustin.
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    Still, the last month doesn't suddenly erase the first 2 months of the season. We will see how the bench performs after the ASG and most importantly we will see how they perform when the playoffs arrive.
    A 20 game sample size should not be ignored in favor of a 30 game sample size.

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    Yes, we had open guys, but PG completely missed them because of the ridiculousness of the game situation. Call a time out, settle everyone down and then the good look is found. You could tell as soon as PG got to half court this final play wasn't going to work well. Vogel should have called TO to get everyone on the same page, because they weren't. And this is what we got.
    It wasn't a ridiculous game situation. Pacers had a 4 on 3 fastbreak with 2 WIDE OPEN SHOOTERS. Frank Vogel was justified in assuming his team of professional basketball players didn't need to be coached on what to do there.

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    Mahinmi is playing worse than last year. Scola is worse than Hansborough by a wide margin. And Watson ain't exactly looking like a stellar upgrade over Augustin.

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    ***an aside: Can everyone please just agree to take a deep breath,

    Let's not stir this post, please


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    One positive to take away from the last sequence of events: We forced the Magic to burn THREE timeouts and then turn the ball over between trying to force steals and guarding the inbound.
    too bad the execution after the timeout w 30 seconds to go in the game resulted in a heave from half court for PG. im wondering if that's the play Coach Vogel designed in the huddle

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    ***an aside: Can everyone please just agree to take a deep breath, and place Mad Mario on ignore?
    How dare I say a guy shooting 36 percent for the calendar year and playing no defense is playing badly.

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    A 20 game sample size should not be ignored in favor of a 30 game sample size.
    30 games is still a bigger sample size than 20, though. If we have to ignore something then we should ignore the smaller sample but in reality we shouldn't ignore anything. Both samples should be taken into account and we should create an average between them.

    We will also see what happens in the next 32 games of the season.
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    too bad the execution after the timeout w 30 seconds to go in the game resulted in a heave from half court for PG. im wondering if that's the play Coach Vogel designed in the huddle
    Only if he got advice from Coach Crean. Maybe Oladipo hooked him up with the phone number.

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    30 games is still a bigger sample size than 20, though. If we have to ignore something then we should ignore the smaller sample but in reality we shouldn't ignore anything. Both samples should be taken into account and we should create an average between them.

    We will also see what happens in the next 32 games of the season.
    The more recent one is more important and useful. Seeing as how its the one after the grind of the season has set in. Scola is never going to get a First 30 games of the year again this season. The season is going to keep grinding on him.

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