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    I wouldn't expect Bynum to ever be playing in a game like the one tonight. Hopefully he's ready to go for the Knicks game Wednesday night. Vogel comments didn't seem like this was anything too unexpected.
    Knee swelling is similar to elbow swelling IF no fall accompanied the swelling. Bynum had no falls, so this is fluid. He needs FLUID IN (injected) or FLUID OUT (knee drained). The MRI will undoubtedly reveal one or the other. Fluid keeps our ligaments loose, and in motion. It's what grease is to an axle/axel. Or hair grease/gel is to the hair strands. Without fluid, our ligaments would get rusty, dry, brittle, and breakage can happen. Hair as well. Bynum might need a shot of special fluid administered by a doctor into his knee. To loosen up the ligaments and such. Or....fluid might be building up in the knee. In which case a similar doctor needs to drain the thing. Not entirely, just enough to bring the swelling way down.

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    It depends. If Bynum can never be an everyday player again (and at this point, that appears up in the air), I can't see any team shelling out big dollars for him. Right now, he's a part-time bench player, but a damn effective one at that.

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    As I said, it is early. If he could show he's healthy and continue to play like his first 2 games I think he'd net a big contract. It looks unlikely that he'll be able to show he can stay healthy if he's already having issues after just 2 games with rest in between. It's a shame. I'd take him as a backup even if he could only play every other game. The way the Pacers have handled him to date, I'd think they'll hold him out again.

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    Anyone see this?

    https://twitter.com/injuryexpert/sta...89869273387008

    It's more than just soreness for Bynum. Source tells me "significant swelling." Did he play too much?

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    Knee swelling is similar to elbow swelling IF no fall accompanied the swelling. Bynum had no falls, so this is fluid. He needs FLUID IN (injected) or FLUID OUT (knee drained). The MRI will undoubtedly reveal one or the other. Fluid keeps our ligaments loose, and in motion. It's what grease is to an axle/axel. Or hair grease/gel is to the hair strands. Without fluid, our ligaments would get rusty, dry, brittle, and breakage can happen. Hair as well. Bynum might need a shot of special fluid administered by a doctor into his knee. To loosen up the ligaments and such. Or....fluid might be building up in the knee. In which case a similar doctor needs to drain the thing. Not entirely, just enough to bring the swelling way down.
    Probably would be a cortisone shot, which doesn't loosen up ligaments but rather is an anti-inflammatory.

    http://www.medicinenet.com/cortisone...on/article.htm
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    I had made the comment during the game to someone that given the high paced, up and down feel to the game, it might have been wise to pull him out before he logged 20 minutes (on what felt to be about 12 minutes straight in the second half).


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    Swelling should be expected. He'll never not have swelling again. At this point it's going to be making sure there's no structural damage, and how much pain he can tolerate.
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    Swelling doesn't concern me too much. "Significant" swelling does.
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    As long as Bynum is ready to roll every 3rd day or so I am alright with it. I mean we didn't bring him in to win regular season games.

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    Swelling doesn't concern me too much. "Significant" swelling does.
    Not really. Could mean there's large fluid build up, or he needs like Since86 said, a cortizone shot. Either of which should be taken care of today so he can play tomorrow.

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    As long as he's ready when we play the Heat both in the regular season and the playoffs...

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    After today's practice, Bynum said doctors are still reviewing the MRI on his knee but that "this one is a little more concerning for me."


    So he practiced today apparently.

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    After today's practice, Bynum said doctors are still reviewing the MRI on his knee but that "this one is a little more concerning for me."


    So he practiced today apparently.
    Never said he practiced, actually. Just said he spoke after practice. I'd focus on the second part of that announcement --- that he was concerned.
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    After today's practice, Bynum said doctors are still reviewing the MRI on his knee but that "this one is a little more concerning for me."


    So he practiced today apparently.
    LOL what?

    You read that and think he practiced?

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    I don't think that's a particularly good sign. If it turns out he can't play again this season, I'm going to be upset that he even teased us with those two rock solid games.

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    Good Lord. Honestly this is sounding to me like the guy just has to decide how much he wants to play basketball. I don't hold it against him either way, but I don't see how it gets better at this point.

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    He's not traveling to NYC....

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    LOL what?

    You read that and think he practiced?


    I was not sure. I didn't think players who don't participate in practices would be at practice. Thought they'd be getting whatever stuff they need taken care of taken care of. My bad.

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    I was not sure. I didn't think players who don't participate in practices would be at practice. Thought they'd be getting whatever stuff they need taken care of taken care of. My bad.
    Not trying to correct you, but yeah all players generally attend practice. They will still get treatment and stretch, etc.

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    Well this sucks, hopefully he can play vs MIA in the playoffs at least. Assuming we make it that far of course.

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    Good news. And it was just like I predicted mostly. He has fluid build up in ONE OF his knees. Dwayne Wade had the same issues vs. Indy a few post-season's ago. Once his knee was drained, he went on to light us up (unfortunately) for 25+ the next two games. Bynum's gonna need to have his knee drained during the playoffs at some point as well I predict. So this shouldn't be a big deal. The fluid build up causes the slight soreness and swelling. Once it's drained, it will go down on its own. But also aided by ice packs and stuff. It's feasible that he could play Friday vs. Chicago. Wade had his knee drained on the day off vs. Indy in the playoffs and came out on fire the next game. The reason so much fluid was there, is because he probably hasn't had the thing drained in quite some time.
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    Good news? Ok...what?

    Fluid, pain, whatever...none of this good news, but the worst news is the MRI and that it is still being reviewed.

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    Good news? Ok...what?
    Well in the sense that there's no new damage to the knee. That's what you were afraid of right? Torn ligaments, tendons and stuff? Well that's not the case. Just a fluid build up in his knee. Remember that pic Roy Hibbert posted earlier in the season of his "fat" elbow? That's probably how Bynum's knee looks right now. Except Hibbert had no damage or elbow issues. It was just bursitis. Bynum has knee pain though, which he'll have to deal with for the rest of his life. But in this case, Bynum won't be done for the year or need surgery. SWELLING like with Roy's elbow is the issue. A simple draining of the affected area, to greatly decrease the swelling. Along with ice compresses to further aid in the decreasing of swelling, is all that is needed here. So like I said, there's a 70% chance he plays Friday.

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    Good news? Ok...what?

    Fluid, pain, whatever...none of this good news, but the worst news is the MRI and that it is still being reviewed.
    Yeah, I'm with you. Sorry Grimp, but I don't think all fluid drainings are the same. I'm not a doctor and did not stay at a Holiday Inn last night, so take that for what it's worth.

    The key part for me is that Bynum admitted to being concerned and if this is the most fluid buildup he's seen in years, then I'm guessing that's not a positive thing.

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