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    I've got my fingers crossed that he doesn't do to your team what he's done everywhere else. The guy is bat-poop nuts, a slacker and (from what I've heard from people who might know) is more capable of screwing up a locker room with stupid drama than anyone not named Dennis Rodman.

    Good luck. I've got my hopes set on you kicking Lebron and the Heat right where they need to be kicked. If Bynum does anything to disrupt that, I'm not going to be a very happy playoff Pacers bandwagon fan.
    the thing is, everywhere else Bynum has been, he has been expected to be the 19/12 guy he was on the Lakers title teams. Here? Ok, give us 15 minutes a night of being big.

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    I think these negative worries are possible but not plausible.

    I think the positive possibilities here are plausible but not probable.
    Fair enough. I think I can reasonably see an outcome unfavorable to the Pacers. Are the negatives that unreasonable to discuss them as a feasible outcome. Likely or not it is still reasonable.

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    Default Re: So what was Andrew's Bynum's conduct detrimental to the team??

    Given Deng's recent thoughts on the Cavs, it's hard to see how Bynum could be single-handedly wrecking that locker room.

    Not saying he's a choirboy, but if things don't get better when the scapegoat leaves, you've got to wonder if it was his fault.
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    Given Deng's recent thoughts on the Cavs, it's hard to see how Bynum could be single-handedly wrecking that locker room.

    Not saying he's a choirboy, but if things don't get better when the scapegoat leaves, you've got to wonder if it was his fault.
    Yeah, the Cavs add an all-star caliber player in Deng for nothing basically and still suck horribly, there's something going wrong beyond an individual.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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    Default Re: So what was Andrew's Bynum's conduct detrimental to the team??

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    Given Deng's recent thoughts on the Cavs, it's hard to see how Bynum could be single-handedly wrecking that locker room.

    Not saying he's a choirboy, but if things don't get better when the scapegoat leaves, you've got to wonder if it was his fault.
    This. If the Cavs got rid of all their players that have bad attitudes and lack of effort, I'd imagine half of their team would be gone.
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    So if we're gonna excuse Bynum then it makes sense to excuse Bennett for his terrible start, no?

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    I could see David West Hulk Smashing something after saying that (yes I saw Hicks's gif).
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    So if we're gonna excuse Bynum then it makes sense to excuse Bennett for his terrible start, no?
    Here's the list of problems as far as I know:

    1) Dan Gilbert isn't exactly the most popular/best owner, nor do they have a good GM.
    2) Mike Brown isn't exactly the best coach.
    3) Kyrie Irving is playing like crap, but has no one to hold him accountable.
    4) Dion Waiters is either hated by the entire team, or he hates everyone or both, but they have to play him anyway.
    5) Anthony Bennett obviously wasn't held to a high standard in the off-season, comes in out of shape and has sucked the whole season so far.
    6) Andrew Bynum was supposed to be a major factor for them but his knees and work ethic weren't in top form and was a huge disappointment.
    7) Trading him for Deng has been a disaster because Deng didn't want to leave Chicago.

    And 7 might be too low of a count.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    I can understand the players not wanting Bynum with his rings coming in and being the determining factor in a title. But that will not be the case anyway. We could win a title without him, but without Roy Hibbert I seriously doubt it.

    They also need to understand that their culture and style of play is probably why he wants to be in Indy instead of Miami. Why not take credit for building this thing? The make-up of the team will change over time but the culture can remain the same. Just look at the Spurs. These Pacers could be the group that started it all.
    LeWade are going down.

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    I can see why Roy would not be holding the red carpet for the guy, it's his position, what he's worked really hard to be good at, he probably holds Ian at a decent standard, then the Pacers go out and sign a name player who has concerns of work ethic...don't blame him at all.

    Would be like if you held a job somewhere and you were supposed to give elaborate praise on your new secretary that doesn't have the best job history, what's he supposed to say.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    So if we're gonna excuse Bynum then it makes sense to excuse Bennett for his terrible start, no?
    Yeah. I'm really starting to believe that Mike Brown might be a bad head coach that was made to look good by LeBron James. From watching several of the Cavs games, I get the feeling that he has no idea what to do at times.

    I'm not going to hold anything that happened in Cleveland against him. Dion Waiters and Kyrie Irving got into a fight and Waiters reportedly wanted a trade earlier in the season. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Cavs management that started these vague rumors about his bad attitude after they realized that he wasn't the 2011 player they were hoping they were getting. The Cavs organization is a train wreck right now.
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    Larry is not coming back, he didn't have a meeting with Orlando for not reason, yeah he is coming back to the NBA but not to the Pacers, the notion that he is a taking a year off and then come back is absurd.
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    The way I see it is if he comes in and single handedly ruins our chemistry, our locker room wasn't as strong as we all thought.

    We will be fine.

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    Jarred Jack said Bynum was working hard, doing what the trainers told him and making progress. True or not who knows? Jack has the least reasons to lie. Coaches and management had more reasons to lie. Just saying.
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    Bynum will play (make his debut) Tuesday February 18th at home vs. Atlanta. Or Wednesday February 19th at Minnesota on ESPN.

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    Bynum will play (make his debut) Tuesday February 18th at home vs. Atlanta. Or Wednesday February 19th at Minnesota on ESPN.
    Is that A guess or did you get that from somewhere?
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    I almost want to retire his jersey only if it means we can sew this quote directly under neath his name on the banner.

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    I could see David West Hulk Smashing something after saying that (yes I saw Hicks's gif).
    MagicRat's gif, good sir.

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    Oden has faced Bynum three times, when Bynum was a Laker, with Oden averaging 6.7 points and 5.0 rebounds in 23.7 minutes and Bynum averaging 8.3 points and 6.3 points in 31.0 minutes.

    "It was a long time ago," Oden said, smiling.

    Of course it was.

    Everything with Oden was a long time ago.

    The last meeting was Apr. 10, 2009.

    "Nothing really stands out," Oden said.

    Does he think the Pacers got Bynum, at least in part with him in mind?

    "I think they got a lot of people in mind," Oden said. "You know, to get to where this team has been, you've got to pass a lot of people. It's not just us. I think they're just adding weapons, to try to help themselves. When that time comes, it's a hard road. You know, I've never been through it before, so it's going to be hard for me also."

    And the Pacers like to play big.

    "And hey, they just added size," Oden said.

    With that, the Indianapolis native smiled again, with not much more to say.

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    Yeah. I'm really starting to believe that Mike Brown might be a bad head coach that was made to look good by LeBron James. From watching several of the Cavs games, I get the feeling that he has no idea what to do at times.

    I'm not going to hold anything that happened in Cleveland against him. Dion Waiters and Kyrie Irving got into a fight and Waiters reportedly wanted a trade earlier in the season. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Cavs management that started these vague rumors about his bad attitude after they realized that he wasn't the 2011 player they were hoping they were getting. The Cavs organization is a train wreck right now.
    I think you're close there... he was an incredibly good assistant coach who got lucky when Cleveland asked him to be the head coach before LeBron's 3rd year and was then made to look like a great hire thanks to the 5th best player in the league right now (Lance Stephenson, Paul George, Andrew Bynum, and Kevin Durant are above him... in that order).

    You could also wonder if he was just labeled by me as an "incredibly good assistant coach," because he was lucky enough to be along for the ride with Pop's Spurs and Rick's Pacers.

    You could also wonder if our boy Ronnie doesn't run into the stands, would Brown have won a ring that year and been offered more money elsewhere... missing out on LeBron.

    You could wonder a lot of things, actually. I always wonder why I love women's feet.

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    I honestly think Brown's just way too nice. The guy's a pushover and lets the inmates run the asylum, he commands zero respect.

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