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    When Danny is traded we'll see more Cope. I think that's the plan.

    Why take salary back by trading Granger when you just let his contract expire thus loss of salary?

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    Not always. But it happens very often in the NBA that ref crews who do teams home games? Usually do those games more than once a season. For example, the ref crew we get in Indy? We will get them more than once in a season. As do most teams. That keeps from having to fly too many refs all over the place. Also for example, if there's a ref crew that does Bulls games often, they'll alternate them between Bulls, Pacers, and Bucks home games. Just like the refs who do Laker home games often, will also show up at Clipper, and Warrior home games sometimes too. It's easier for the league to do it that way. Now in the playoffs, it's different....because teams are not going all over the place. They're either home, or traveling to 1 particular city at least 3 times in one series. So it's not zooming around the country every day.
    You are just making this up. Complete bogus. Back it up with facts and I will take you seriously. The NBA does not want refs to develop a bias towards certain teams or conferences. That's why they are moved all over so much.
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    The only conclusion I drew from this game is the fact that I think we need a 5th big that's quicker and more athletic so that he is able to play in games like this. Our frontline is big and strong but can get ran off the court at times when the tempo is turned up. As unlikely as it is, Having a guy that could come in and be effective in that sort of tempo would be nice

    AGREE. I've wanted another big since the season started. I liked Mozgov last year and wanted to get him this off season. He's athletic and can handle the ball. Lance and him could be a good combo with Lance feeding him in the post.
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    Granted BUT how many of the Pacers losses have been the 2nd game of BTB?
    How many 2nd games of a back to back will we play in the playoffs?

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    How many 2nd games of a back to back will we play in the playoffs?
    Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA 3h

    Last night's loss in DEN makes it 6 of IND's 9 total losses on road back-to-backs. Spoiler alert: those don't exist in the playoffs.



    This is a great point. So much of the Pacers' advantage is that they are able to outplay teams with their raw energy and physical abilities. But those get weakened when you're on a back to back.

    I fully expect us to come out with a lot of energy against LA tomorrow.

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    We're 5-5 on the second night of back to backs. We are 29-4 the rest of the time. Calm down. I know it's been a rough road trip, but every team has rough stretches. ]

    How many of those 5 losses have been in the last 15 games or so?

    How many of those 5 losses were away games?
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    This.

    Every single NBA champion has been beaten in the regular season. EVERY SINGLE NBA CHAMPION. Let me repeat. EVERY SINGLE NBA CHAMPION EVER HAS BEEN BEATEN IN THE REGULAR SEASON. A majority of which have had lopsided blown out losses. Over-reaction as such aren't necessary.
    Yes, I remember years ago some of the top teams losing to 1st year expansion teams.
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    I figured this was going to be a loss we barely got past the Kings and had to go into OT to get a win.

    I expect them to bounce back against the Lakers though.

    However these slow starts are reminding me of the Colts this past season.

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    You are just making this up. Complete bogus. Back it up with facts and I will take you seriously. The NBA does not want refs to develop a bias towards certain teams or conferences. That's why they are moved all over so much.


    Does anyone know how many NBA ref crews there are?

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    How many 2nd games of a back to back will we play in the playoffs?

    I'll worry about the playoffs when they start. I'm concerned now with the reg season and what might be reasons for losses.

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    I'll worry about the playoffs when they start. I'm concerned now with the reg season and what might be reasons for losses.
    The reason for the loss: It was the 2nd night of a back-to-back after a long game the night before with travel, and we didn't have the energy. Also this game really doesn't matter at all.

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    Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA 3h

    Last night's loss in DEN makes it 6 of IND's 9 total losses on road back-to-backs. Spoiler alert: those don't exist in the playoffs.



    This is a great point. So much of the Pacers' advantage is that they are able to outplay teams with their raw energy and physical abilities. But those get weakened when you're on a back to back.

    I fully expect us to come out with a lot of energy against LA tomorrow.
    I hate to make excuses, but these are the facts:

    1) It was a B2B for us, but not them
    2) They had lost their last two games which were on the road, with the last one being in Portland on Thursday
    3) Friday wasn't just a B2B...it was an excruciating OT win that went late into the evening.
    4) Denver exploited our weakness...small ball where guards are explosive offensively

    The only thing that is remotely a concern is our weakness against small ball combined with PnR's with Roy in there. But even that's not a huge concern because the best teams don't play that style. If anything, this loss is a good lesson for us and may help us reduce that weakness.
    LeWade are going down.

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    Honestly, I never expected the Pacers to beat Denver.

    1) they haven't had much success in Denver

    2) they had to go to OT to win the nite b4

    3) the altitude

    4) West Coast trip


    Not surprised they lost, but still not overly disappointed.

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    This west coast trip seemed bad for travel: golden state to phx back to Sacramento to Denver back to LA seemed poorly made but I guess the league isn't going to make it easy

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    Guess no one was paying attention to Denari last night; he had an interesting factoid that is relevant: Going into the game, Denver was 50-8 against visiting teams playing their second game of a b2b. 50-8. Obviously there's something to be said about the difficulty of b2b's.

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    Guess no one was paying attention to Denari last night; he had an interesting factoid that is relevant: Going into the game, Denver was 50-8 against visiting teams playing their second game of a b2b. 50-8. Obviously there's something to be said about the difficulty of b2b's.
    Its more of an issue of yet another game where we had no energy the first half. Then found some in the second. Personally if prefer to lose the game in the second half.

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    Why take salary back by trading Granger when you just let his contract expire thus loss of salary?
    Because our goal this season is to get past Miami and win the championship. If Granger cannot contribute off the bench at a high level, then he's a liability. Stuckey is an expiring. We could trade Danny for an expiring contract of a player far more productive than he is. Stuckey looks better than Granger these days. Plus, Stuckey backing up Lance would allow Copeland to back up PG and finally get some minutes. There are also the Thornton's, Nick Young's, and Jeff Green's of the world. But the first two have 1 year remaining on their deals. Green has 2 years.

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    Oh my gosh again with the freaking trades. Please get over it man. I'm begging you.

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    This was also the Pacers 12th out of their 20 B2B's. The Heat have played 9 B2B's out of their 17.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    How many of those 5 losses have been in the last 15 games or so?

    How many of those 5 losses were away games?
    What are you trying to argue? We have only lost one home game, so those losses were away games.

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    Oh my gosh again with the freaking trades. Please get over it man. I'm begging you.
    Trade 'em all for Tacos!

    except Lance, he can stay.

    Oh, and that PG is good enough for 2 Tacos.

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    Man, I hate tacos.

    TRADE EVERYBODY FOR DONUTS!
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    Man, I hate tacos.

    TRADE EVERYBODY FOR DONUTS!
    nah....trade them all for Chicken N Waffles!
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    If I couldn't get a filet and a baked potato out of a deal, then no way.
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    He has to know Danny is not producing though. Danny is not being aggressive enough. He needs to be moved for someone else. There are options. Like I said, trading him for Stuckey. Both are expiring's. Stuckey backs up Lance, Copeland slides in to back up PG.

    The opposite is true. Danny is producing well when given the minutes and especially the shot opportunities. If Vogel called the plays for him and gave him 25 minutes he'd be giving us 15+ points right now. He's also passing and defending well. In short he's ready to step up if Vogel will use him. I think giving Danny those minutes in the past 2 games would have given us better defense then Paul or Lance in those same minutes considering how they were defending. No trade is needed we just need to utilize the talent we have.

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