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    I'll start to care about losses when we either have lost 3 in a row or have lost to Miami.

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    I'll start to care about losses when we either have lost 3 in a row or have lost to Miami.

    I agree, but also if anyone cares.....Miami has to win 3 more games to catch us. And we have to lose 3 more games to match them. And Miami's next two I believe are at home against San Antonio and OKC. Without Wade, they will lose one or both of those games.

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    Back to back. In Denver. Against a former assistant coach who knows our weaknesses.

    They worked us over with those side pick and rolls, putting all of our bigs in difficult situations and drew lots of fouls in the half court.

    Well coached game by Brian Shaw.

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    Tough game and obviously it could have went the other way if Hibbert was able to stay on the court. One thing I thought we'd see tonight with the late game last night was that Vogel would use the bench more. I think Vogel pushes the starters too much in these situations and they looked gassed to me. I'm not saying to do it every night but I'd like to have seen more of Danny and Scola tonight and even plug Copeland into the rotation. They didn't log the minutes last night even in an overtime game. We have the depth to lean on in these back to backs if Frank would use it.

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    Tough game and obviously it could have went the other way if Hibbert was able to stay on the court. One thing I thought we'd see tonight with the late game last night was that Vogel would use the bench more. I think Vogel pushes the starters too much in these situations and they looked gassed to me. I'm not saying to do it every night but I'd like to have seen more of Danny and Scola tonight and even plug Copeland into the rotation. They didn't log the minutes last night even in an overtime game. We have the depth to lean on in these back to backs if Frank would use it.


    When Danny is traded we'll see more Cope. I think that's the plan.

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    Tough game and obviously it could have went the other way if Hibbert was able to stay on the court. One thing I thought we'd see tonight with the late game last night was that Vogel would use the bench more. I think Vogel pushes the starters too much in these situations and they looked gassed to me. I'm not saying to do it every night but I'd like to have seen more of Danny and Scola tonight and even plug Copeland into the rotation. They didn't log the minutes last night even in an overtime game. We have the depth to lean on in these back to backs if Frank would use it.
    I have to agree with that. Frank is a bit too fixated in his 9-man rotation. The roles and minute distribution seem to be crystal clear. On one hand, that's good because it creates stability. It's good to know your role. On the other hand, I'd like to see some variation and I'd like to see our starters get some rest. Both Lance and Paul are playing a lot of minutes and they could use a break once in a while.

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    I'm just ready for this road trip to end.

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    Tired or not this team does not look capable of winning a title.
    This is ridiculous. Of course they are capable of winning a title. Good grief. We haven't even lost 10 games, have split the most difficult road trip of the season thus far, lost the back end of a back-to-back where we had to go an extra frame the night before, and now they aren't capable of winning a title??

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    I continue to look at Roy lately and wonder WTF ?? He simply didn't want to play last nite. Altitude ?? Just tired ?? Mentally messed up ?? Whatever it is ..... he needs to get his stuff together.

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    I continue to look at Roy lately and wonder WTF ?? He simply didn't want to play last nite. Altitude ?? Just tired ?? Mentally messed up ?? Whatever it is ..... he needs to get his stuff together.




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    You just have to accept that sometimes a great team is even going to look like crap against a lesser opponent. It's the NBA. I'm not trying to oversimplify it, but that's just the way this league works. We used up a lot of injury against the Kings and Denver is tough with the altitude. Energy might not sound like a good excuse when you're talking about millionaire athletes, but these guys are human and get tired.

    Let's just regroup against the lowly Lakers on Tuesday. Then we have a three game home stand, starting Thursday when we can look to get some revenge on Phoenix. In fact, after the LA game on Tuesday, 7 of our next 9 games are at home. We should rip off a ton of wins in that stretch.

    We still have a 3 game lead on Miami and I think that lead will be in pretty good shape after all of the home games coming up. We all know that this team is basically guaranteed a spot in the ECF's barring a major injury. I'm not going to get too worried as long as we keep this lead for the 1 seed.

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    Seriously, it's a back to back coming off an OT game and playing in the altitude in Denver. (If you've never been to Denver it takes more than a couple hours to acclimatize). We're getting into over-reaction mode here a little bit aren't we? We'll be fine.
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    You can complain all you want about this game, and crap on any of the player for last night. I don't see how people take this game and project it on the rest of the season though.

    It just makes no sense.

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    The only conclusion I drew from this game is the fact that I think we need a 5th big that's quicker and more athletic so that he is able to play in games like this. Our frontline is big and strong but can get ran off the court at times when the tempo is turned up. As unlikely as it is, Having a guy that could come in and be effective in that sort of tempo would be nice

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    I'm not a big Copeland fan, but I think that we should at least give him a chance sometime when the other bench players aren't producing. I don't see the harm.

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    Brian Shaw deserves a game ball. I had this game picked as a loss as soon as they started this road trip. I'm not happy I'm right but as long as they beat the Lakers on Tuesday, it will have been a successful trip.
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    I have to agree with that. Frank is a bit too fixated in his 9-man rotation. The roles and minute distribution seem to be crystal clear. On one hand, that's good because it creates stability. It's good to know your role. On the other hand, I'd like to see some variation and I'd like to see our starters get some rest. Both Lance and Paul are playing a lot of minutes and they could use a break once in a while.

    I trust Frank, though. I believe that he will make the right decisions when it's needed.
    Paul and Lance are the 2 players Vogel overplays the most. They're young but they still get tired and it shows on the defensive end more then anything. Vogel could take a few tips from Pop when it comes to adjusting your rotations to get through a long season. It's criminal to have the depth we have and not use it.

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    When Danny is traded we'll see more Cope. I think that's the plan.
    I think you know Larry Bird isnt' stupid enough to do this or really any trades before the deadline.

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    All I know is, if the LA Lakers game starts out with some scrub hitting two wide-open corner threes in a row because a Pacers wing doesn't close out...

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    I continue to look at Roy lately and wonder WTF ?? He simply didn't want to play last nite. Altitude ?? Just tired ?? Mentally messed up ?? Whatever it is ..... he needs to get his stuff together.
    I was under the impression that Roy has some asthmatic problem. Or am I thinking of someone else?

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    Tired or not this team does not look capable of winning a title. Title level teams learn from their mistakes. How many of our losses could have been avoided by not sleepwalking through the first half. And we still arent doing it. It takes less energy to stay in a game than to come back in one.

    We continue to whine to the officials not realizing we arent the Heat. Thus its counter productive. And we continue to run plays for the open man which is normally fine. But when that person is 6 for 20 its time to stop especially during an attempted comeback.
    Our loss column is in the single digits still at this point of the season.

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    digits.

    You know what team has lost more games than the Pacers in the NBA?

    All of them.

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    Also, I figured this game would've been a perfect game to give Cope and Sloan some burn. Even if only for change of pace.

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    I'm not a big Copeland fan, but I think that we should at least give him a chance sometime when the other bench players aren't producing. I don't see the harm.

    I think Rasual Butler should get another chance too. He looked half decent in mid December, but then DG came back and he has pretty much only played garbage minutes since then.

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    Our loss column is in the single digits still at this point of the season.

    single.

    digits.

    You know what team has lost more games than the Pacers in the NBA?

    All of them.
    This.

    Every single NBA champion has been beaten in the regular season. EVERY SINGLE NBA CHAMPION. Let me repeat. EVERY SINGLE NBA CHAMPION EVER HAS BEEN BEATEN IN THE REGULAR SEASON. A majority of which have had lopsided blown out losses. Over-reaction as such aren't necessary.

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