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    Default I hate to be the guy but...

    I think Roy Hibbert has been fairly sloppy with his verticality this season. Sure, he still gets the benefit of the doubt the majority of the time, but it seems as though last year he was going consistently straight up. This year, it seems as though his arms are extended forwards a lot of the time. Anyone agree?

    Obviously, he has still been an elite rim protector, and he has really stepped his blocks game up this year. Just a small nitpick that I was wondering if anyone else noticed.
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    I don't really think I've noticed this and stats do not back up your claim.

    Roy is averaging less fouls per game on the same amount of blocks per game as he did last year. He is also averaging slightly more MPG this season.

    I think it's fine. Roy's an amazing case study because his fouls per game have been incredibly stable each season regardless of how many minutes he's playing a game.

    Just my opinion though.

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    I've seen the same thing, but I think lazy is the wrong word. His feet are in position most of the time. I think he is just trying harder to get a block and is taking what the refs give him. JMO
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    Sometimes offensive players are driving part of their body into Roy to cause him to bend forward.
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    Sometimes offensive players are driving part of their body into Roy to cause him to bend forward.
    I realize that, I'm talking about before the contact is made.

    I think I remember you mentioning something in an earlier thread about this.
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    I don't really think I've noticed this and stats do not back up your claim.

    Roy is averaging less fouls per game on the same amount of blocks per game as he did last year. He is also averaging slightly more MPG this season.

    I think it's fine. Roy's an amazing case study because his fouls per game have been incredibly stable each season regardless of how many minutes he's playing a game.

    Just my opinion though.
    How can stats back up a claim of whether someones arms are straight up or not? Fouls yes, but as a I mentioned, whether you like it or not, he tends to get the benefit of the doubt, which he has definitely earned.
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    I realize that, I'm talking about before the contact is made.

    I think I remember you mentioning something in an earlier thread about this.
    Well, I used the word "sloppy", which is a bit different from "lazy".
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    Whatever he's doing, it's working, so it doesn't bother me a bit.

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    I guess lazy is the wrong word. He's working his *** off, but it's just one small nitpick.
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    How can stats back up a claim of whether someones arms are straight up or not? Fouls yes, but as a I mentioned, whether you like it or not, he tends to get the benefit of the doubt, which he has definitely earned.
    I'm just saying if it was something to worry about at all it would show up somewhere other than just maybe a couple times a game he's not keeping his arms perfectly straight. Remember if you can get to the ball you don't have to keep your arms perfectly straight so maybe that is what you are seeing. Plus against smaller guys who cannot leap even with him he has a little more space to move his arms. The reason he has to stay so perfectly vertical against a guy like Lebron or Carmelo is that those guys are big enough that he moves his arms down he will make contact with them. Against a smaller guy like Curry, Roy has more room to take up air space without fear that Curry can easily leap into him if that makes sense. Perhaps that is what you're seeing.

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    I'm just saying if it was something to worry about at all it would show up somewhere other than just maybe a couple times a game he's not keeping his arms perfectly straight. Remember if you can get to the ball you don't have to keep your arms perfectly straight so maybe that is what you are seeing. Plus against smaller guys who cannot leap even with him he has a little more space to move his arms. The reason he has to stay so perfectly vertical against a guy like Lebron or Carmelo is that those guys are big enough that he moves his arms down he will make contact with them. Against a smaller guy like Curry, Roy has more room to take up air space without fear that Curry can easily leap into him if that makes sense. Perhaps that is what you're seeing.
    As I recall, the games Roy HAS been in foul trouble were games where he was coming forward with his arms. It isn't so much that he will be called for them all the time, it is that it is a vulnerability that could be exploited by a team like Miami in a long series.
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    Is that you, Lebron?

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    Defensively I'm very pleased with Roy this season, he's and incredible defensive presence. His hook shot and his finishing near the rim could use some improvement, but not much to complain about with Roy though, the Big Dog has been eating.
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