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    CBS, disappointed that its NFL pregame show fell further behind rival Fox in the ratings this season, is internally discussing major changes to the show, multiple sources tell The Big Lead. FOX NFL Sunday had its best season ever, averaging 4.8 million viewers in 2013, while The NFL Today on CBS was a distant 2nd at 3.3 million viewers. A CBS spokesperson had no comment this week when asked about the following changes that the network is considering. It’s unclear which – if any – of these will actually happen, but sources say the following is being discussed:

    • Bringing in recently-retired tight end Tony Gonzalez to replace Shannon Sharpe. Gonzalez and CBS have been in talks about joining the show, but he’s West Coast-based, and the show is out of New York. Gonzalez is wrestling with the idea of weekly travel during the season. FOX’s show is based in LA and appears to be an ideal fit, but it can’t offer him a spot because it isn’t going to tinker with the show’s chemistry. Given the option of Fox Sports 1 or NFL Today on CBS, what would you do? The other issue is that Gonzalez and Sharpe or apparently close friends. Another option: Simply adding Gonzalez. But is six people on the set too many?

    • Replacing Dan Marino. There was plenty of scuttlebutt last year that Marino would be replaced after the “love child” stories hit the press. CBS, the most conservative of the networks, didn’t make a move. The problem with replacing Marino this year? There aren’t any star QBs retiring to take his spot. Unless …

    * The other name to watch is Peyton Manning. While there are no indications that Manning will retire if he wins a second Super Bowl, CBS privately has discussed the idea of pitching Manning a dual role: a spot on the new CBS College Football Saturday set and a spot on The NFL Today. Manning will be immensely coveted by all the networks whenever he retires, and his background in the SEC playing for Tennessee, plus the fact he spent his entire career in the AFC, are no-brainers for CBS.

    * One source said that CBS had been hoping to land Rex Ryan if the Jets had fired their coach. He was a perfect fit for CBS – proximity to New York, knowledge of the AFC, and his blustery nature. But the Jets retained Ryan, reportedly on a 1-year deal. There’s a chance both Ryan and Manning would be available after the 2014 season. Or neither could be. Then is CBS stuck with the same group for two more years?

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    IMO, the ratings discrepancy between FOX and CBS is because the NFC has most of the big market teams, therefore FOX benefits in the ratings. Personally, I just flip it on early to whatever channel the Colts are on. So 14 times a year that is CBS, and twice a year it is FOX. If I were say a Niners fan, it would be the opposite. I have a feeling that most people are like that.

    NFC big markets: The most popular NY team, Philadelphia, Dallas (huge national following too), Washington, Chicago, San Francisco (large national presence too), Green Bay (huge national following).

    AFC big markets: Stepchild NY team, Boston (decent national following), Miami (how many people there care though?), Pittsburgh (huge national following), Houston (franchise has no history though), and I guess you could say that Denver is big since they are the only big city in the region, plus that team has a bit of a national following.

    It's not even close. The NFC encompasses virtually all of the major US markets. They also have virtually all of the teams with the huge national followings aside from Pitt. FOX will always have an advantage because they carry the Conference with the mega markets. Trading Shannon Sharpe for Tony Gonzalez isn't going to fix anything. FOX securing the NFC package in the mid 90's was absolutely brilliant.
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    Honestly, I just watch ESPN Sunday NFL countdown. ESPN does a lot of stupid things and I can't stand them, but their NFL coverage and team I think is the best of the 4 networks.
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    Honestly, I just watch ESPN Sunday NFL countdown. ESPN does a lot of stupid things and I can't stand them, but their NFL coverage and team I think is the best of the 4 networks.
    I always turn ESPN on at 10 and like their program, but I'm usually ready for a change by noon. Noon is when I change the channel and get into Colts mode.

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    If it's a 1:05 kickoff, I turn the TV on at 1:04.

    I don't care for any of those pregame shows - or the people on them. And how does anyone understand what Sharpe is saying anyway ??

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    Its kinda like ESPN vs TNT for basketball. Fox is just more entertaining.

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    If it's a 1:05 kickoff, I turn the TV on at 1:04.

    I don't care for any of those pregame shows - or the people on them. And how does anyone understand what Sharpe is saying anyway ??
    Most of it is background noise for me to be honest I mean it kills time till kickoff it goes by fast.

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    If it's a 1:05 kickoff, I turn the TV on at 1:04.

    I don't care for any of those pregame shows - or the people on them. And how does anyone understand what Sharpe is saying anyway ??
    This is what I do. I cannot stand any of the pregame shows and I just check my fantasy team about a half hour before kickoff.

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    If it's a 1:05 kickoff, I turn the TV on at 1:04.

    I don't care for any of those pregame shows - or the people on them. And how does anyone understand what Sharpe is saying anyway ??
    Me too, although I don't cut it that close, I like to get settled in before the game actually starts. Usually the only time I will tune into pregame stuff is when I have nothing to do that I can finish before the game starts, which is never for the NFL (church), and rare for the Pacers (maybe once every ten games or so).

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    Whoa I've heard rumors but I didn't think they were actually going to do it.

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    CBS Dumps Dan Marino and Shannon Sharpe, Adds Tony Gonzalez

    CBS Sports has finally overhauled its NFL pregame show.

    CBS announced Tuesday that Tony Gonzalez has joined “The NFL Today” as an analyst, working alongside James Brown, Bill Cowher, and Boomer Esiason. The Big Lead first reported CBS’ flirtation with Gonzalez.

    CBS also announced the departures of Dan Marino and Shannon Sharpe, wishing them “the best” as “they pursue other professional opportunities” (CBS, 2/18). Marino and Sharpe both had long tenures at CBS, the former joining the network in 2002 and the latter in 2004.

    Gonzalez is the first addition to the CBS pregame show since Cowher joined the cast in 2007. Meanwhile, Marino and Sharpe are the first departures since Greg Gumbel was replaced by Brown in 2006.


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    Good riddance to Sharpe, that marble mouth sucked. Marino was OK usually though. Jeff Saturday's not on any of ESPN's pregame stuff is he? Somebody's gonna poach him if he isn't soon, he's been really good in the Sportscenter stuff I've seen him on.

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    So they're getting rid of two and only adding one, yet they expect it to help their ratings? I get dumping Sharpe for Gonzalez, but the move to get rid of Marino is a bit perplexing. He's not the greatest analyst ever, but he is decent at it and has a lot of clout since he is one of the greatest quarterbacks ever. I just don't get how trading Sharpe and Marino for Tony Gonzalez, someone who has never done this before, is going to fix anything. Maybe they will be adding someone else who hasn't been announced yet?

    Regardless, I don't think this will change anything. Like I said earlier in the thread, FOX has the NFC, which contains most of the large market and popular teams. FOX will always hold a ratings advantage over CBS because of this. I'm guessing that a huge percentage of people are like myself and simply turn on the TV to whatever channel their favorite team is on. I like the FOX pregame show, but the Colts are usually on CBS so I turn it on CBS early by default since they are the ones who will be talking about the Colts upcoming game.

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    I'm curious why they fired Marino though I mean who are they going to replace him with?

    If it was over the love child scandal they would've fired him last year why wait till now?

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    I'm curious why they fired Marino though I mean who are they going to replace him with?

    If it was over the love child scandal they would've fired him last year why wait till now?
    You have to think that they have their eye on someone else. I don't see how anyone could think that trading Sharpe and Marino for Gonzalez is going to be some magical ratings cure all. It just makes no sense.

    It would really be funny if Gonzo decided to play again and they lost two people for nothing.

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    Fox is just more entertaining.

    A few things I don't like about CBS
    1) Their jokes are way too corny and mostly unfunny
    2) I get sick of regardless how awful the Steelers are, Cowher still picks them to win, and tries desperately to convince everyone WHY they will win.
    3) Shannon Sharpe acting like certain things would/wouldn't happen if he were in that lockerroom and just his overall condenscending upon others.

    A few reasons why I like FOX
    1) Both FOX and CBS analysts are knowledgable....but FOX knows their stuff, and they have fun with it.
    2) Unlike Cowher, these guys aren't bias about picking against their old teams.
    3) I was never a big, big fan of Frank Caliendo, but some of his old pick segments were funny...and Riggle's had some hilarious pick segments that's had me rolling.

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    You have to think that they have their eye on someone else. I don't see how anyone could think that trading Sharpe and Marino for Gonzalez is going to be some magical ratings cure all. It just makes no sense.

    It would really be funny if Gonzo decided to play again and they lost two people for nothing.
    It could a total revamp of the format to the point they want fewer voices giving more time to existing voices or to utilize the time differently... Maybe more time for clips or filmed reports or something.

    Or heck... Just a way to do the show cheaper. Maybe the ratings won't matter as much if they can really cut costs on the show while not harming ratings?
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    They may not need to add another they will have 4 people which should be enough: J.B., Cowher, Boomer and Tony G

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    This could be interesting

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...-today-in-2014

    Bart Scott joins CBS Sports' 'The NFL Today' in 2014


    Former Ravens and Jets linebacker Bart Scott will join The NFL Today in 2014, CBS Sports announced Monday. Scott spent Sundays last season on CBS Sports Network's The Other Pregame Show (TOPS).

    "Bart joining The NFL Today is a natural progression from his outstanding work during his first season on TOPS," said CBS Sports Chairman Sean McManus. "Bart brings a dynamic personality and unique perspective as a recently retired player providing strong opinions on all the hot-button issues on a weekly basis. We are confident he will continue to bring that perspective and those opinions to The NFL Today."

    Scott and former Falcons tight end and future first ballot Hall of Famer Tony Gonzalez will be the two new faces on set. They will join James Brown, Boomer Esiason, Bill Cowher and insider Jason La Canfora, while Dan Marino and Shannon Sharpe are departing the Sunday pregame show.

    "Having just stepped off the playing field, Tony brings a fresh and insightful perspective," McManus said of Gonzalez last week. "As a future Hall of Famer, we are excited for him to share his knowledge, experiences and opinions with our viewers. Tony was one of the most respected and hardworking players in the NFL and a tremendous teammate. We look forward to him bringing these attributes to CBS Sports."

    Scott's NFL career spanned 11 seasons, including a four-year stint with the Jets that coincided with Rex Ryan's arrival and ended in 2012.

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    Tony Gonzalez leaving CBS after three years

    If CBS wants to add Peyton Manning to the pregame studio show, it currently has a spot for him.

    Via Richard Deitsch of SI.com, tight end Tony Gonzalez has left CBS after three years as a member of The NFL Today.

    “I have had an incredible and rewarding three years at CBS and wish it could be more, but traveling to New York each week during the season is not what is best for my family at this time,” Gonzalez said in a statement provided by CBS to Deitsch. “While I hope to remain in broadcasting I will look to do so in the L.A. area. I can’t thank CBS enough for their support.”

    If Gonzalez wants to remain in broadcasting in L.A., NFL Network makes plenty of sense — especially in light of the league-owned outlet’s affinity for gold jackets. Gonzalez will have one in two years.

    And with Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin currently facing accusations that could (should) spark an internal investigation under the Personal Conduct Policy, a seat on the set of NFLN’s Sunday pregame show could be coming open, in time.

    FOX also could make sense, if/when Michael Strahan ever decides to stop flying from New York to L.A. and back again for 17 weekends now that he’s a full-fledged member of Good Morning America.

    At CBS, the question becomes who will replace Gonzalez. Maybe the real question should be whether to replace Gonzalez at all. With only an hour to review the Sunday slate of games and with ratings for the Sunday morning/afternoon pregame shows at all of the networks consistently shrinking, the right approach could be to stick with Boomer Esiason, Bill Cowher, and Bart Scott as the analysts with James Brown as the host.

    Gonzalez may not be the only departure from CBS. Rumors swirled a year ago that the network’s intense pursuit of Manning caused resulted in potential changes to be tabled for a year.

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    wait, what'd Irvin do?

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    wait, what'd Irvin do?
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    NATE BURLESON JOINS CBS SPORTS AS ANALYST ON "THE NFL TODAY"


    Former NFL wide receiver Nate Burleson joins CBS Sports as an analyst for the CBS Television Network’s NFL pre-game show, THE NFL TODAY, and will contribute to CBS Sports Network’s Sunday pre-game show, THAT OTHER PREGAME SHOW (TOPS). The announcement was made today by Sean McManus, Chairman, CBS Sports.

    Burleson will join host James Brown, Bill Cowher, Boomer Esiason and recently announced analyst Phil Simms on THE NFL TODAY.

    “Nate is a rising star in this business with a dynamic personality and is the perfect complement to our veteran cast,” said McManus. “He is knowledgeable, passionate, opinionated and, having recently played, we look forward to his perspective during the discussions and spirited debates with JB, Coach, Boomer and Phil. The addition of Phil and Nate to the show gives us one of the strongest casts for THE NFL TODAY in years.”

    “THE NFL TODAY is one of the few trademark shows in all of professional sports, and I am truly honored to be joining the team,” said Burleson. “I’m very excited for the opportunity to work alongside JB, Coach, Boomer and Phil, who are among the best in our business.”

    Burleson currently serves as a co-host of "Good Morning Football" on NFL Network, and will remain in that role in addition to his work on THE NFL TODAY.

    Burleson played 11 years in the NFL as a wide receiver for the Minnesota Vikings, Seattle Seahawks and Detroit Lions. He was drafted in the third round by Minnesota in 2003. During his tenure with the Vikings he reached over 1,000 receiving yards and is the only player in NFL history to have three punt returns of 90-or-more-yards. In 2006, Burleson signed with the Seattle Seahawks and then signed with Detroit in 2010 where he finished his career in 2013. While a member of the Lions, he received the “Good Guy Award” for his positive interactions with the Detroit media.

    He was a member of the Nevada Wolf Pack at University of Nevada, Reno. In 2002, Burleson recorded 138 receptions, the second highest total in NCAA history. He currently holds the WAC and Nevada all-time records for single game receptions with 19.

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    Default Re: CBS discussing potentially major changes to NFL pregame show

    I am not an every week football guy any more, but my best buddy out here lives and dies by it so I meet up with him to watch football on the weekends sometimes during the season. As hardcore of a fan as he is, we never watch the pregame shows and always turn the game on at 1:00 pm. I mean, we can't sacrifice our whole Sunday watching football until 8 pm or whatever. 8 am - 1 pm is for walking my dog, cleaning up my apartment for next week, etc. I am sure there are lots of hardcore football fans who are in a similar boat.

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    I used to never miss Fox pregame. Now I'm lucky if i remember to DVR it in case I want to see one segment or two.

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