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    Pacers, I'm told, have NOT made a formal offer to Andrew Bynum. But they were among original eight teams to call Bynum's camp this week

    Sense is Pacers' interest here is more about keeping Bynum away from Miami than actually bringing Bynum in to test their treasured chemistry
    Keep him away from Miami! Lebron would make Bynum return to form guarantee that!

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    We should get him. Roy will get in foul trouble vs Miami, and Bynum would be a minimal drop off
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    Keep him away from Miami! Lebron would make Bynum return to form guarantee that!
    I trust Larry Bird would do a better job handling Bynum than James
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    I'm against it, but I trust Bird so it's his call

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    We should get him. Roy will get in foul trouble vs Miami, and Bynum would be a minimal drop off
    Bynum is a HUGE drop off from Roy.

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    Bynum is a HUGE drop off from Roy.
    I wouldn't say HUGE because I think Bynum can be good off the bench in spurts. I dont think he can play more than 30 minutes a game anymore.

    He had some really nice games for the Cavs but hes inconsistent because he just isn't healthy anymore.

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    If we got him, we could trade Ian's 4 mil and Copeland's 3 mil plus the 1.2 exception and pick up almost a 9 mil expiring that could actually help the team's bench. This would also shed 7 mil to resign Lance easily this summer. We wouldn't lose much if Bynum got hurt either cause we would just give Scola more minutes and he'd run with West more instead of Ian, which will prolly happen anyways come playoff time.
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    I wouldn't say HUGE because I think Bynum can be good off the bench in spurts. I dont think he can play more than 30 minutes a game anymore.

    He had some really nice games for the Cavs but hes inconsistent because he just isn't healthy anymore.
    Bynum is working off of name reputation at this point. Honestly, I'm not sure he's an upgrade over Ian Mahinmi at this point. The guy just cannot move.

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    Aside from the immaturity and childish antics, my biggest concern with Bynum is that he openly considered retirement. I just don't think he's in the right frame of mind to be a key piece on a championship team. His body is failing him and he's failing to adapt to his dwindling status. He can't demand the ball anymore. Some players adapt well to their decline, some go out like Stephen Jackson, failing to grasp the opportunity of a championship while clinging on to their self-inflated egos.

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    cause we would just give Scola more minutes and he'd run with West more instead of Ian, which will prolly happen anyways come playoff time.
    The Scola - West frontcourt does not work defensively.
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    The Scola - West frontcourt does not work defensively.
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    I know Bynum hasn't been consistent in forever, but I did watch that game he had against the Bulls and he looked pretty good to me. Wouldn't expect that kind of play very often obviously, but I think he's definitely better than Ian when relatively healthy. His health and passion for basketball are questionable, but he's still got something in the tank I think.
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    http://www.82games.com/1314/13IND11.HTM#5man

    There are two five man units that include the West-Scola front court.

    One of them is the G.Hill-Stephenson-George-West-Scola line-up that has seen 22 minutes of play. It has posted a 1.30 defensive rating which is pretty bad.

    The other is the Watson-Stephenson-George-West-Scola line-up that has seen 9 minutes of play. It has posted a 1.22 defensive rating which is bad as well.
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    As long as this restarts the debate about how awful our bench is, then I'm all for it.

    (By 'it', I mean pages of forum posts, not actually doing anything or suggesting remote possibilities.)

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    Scola and West? I wish it worked...but it certainly does not. If it worked we'd never see Ian out there.

    So, with that said:


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    Scola and West? I wish it worked...but it certainly does not. If it worked we'd never see Ian out there.

    So, with that said:

    It will work come playoff time. It's called time management during a grinding 82 game season. Ian's minutes went down in the playoffs by half and we didn't have Scola or Granger. Ian won't see the floor in this years playoffs, except mop up time.
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    It will work come playoff time. It's called time management during a grinding 82 game season. Ian's minutes went down in the playoffs by half and we didn't have Scola or Granger. Ian won't see the floor in this years playoffs, except mop up time.
    I sincerely hope you are right but there's simply no way. It would be a layup drill for Miami if we had Scola or West protecting the rim. Against some teams it might possibly work but so far not so good.

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    If we got him, we could trade Ian's 4 mil and Copeland's 3 mil plus the 1.2 exception and pick up almost a 9 mil expiring that could actually help the team's bench. This would also shed 7 mil to resign Lance easily this summer. We wouldn't lose much if Bynum got hurt either cause we would just give Scola more minutes and he'd run with West more instead of Ian, which will prolly happen anyways come playoff time.


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    It will work come playoff time. It's called time management during a grinding 82 game season. Ian's minutes went down in the playoffs by half and we didn't have Scola or Granger. Ian won't see the floor in this years playoffs, except mop up time.
    Why would it work in the playoffs against better teams if it isn't working in the regular season? They are bad together in the frontcourt defensively--there is absolutely no rim protection, and when you have Scola on the court, you absolutely need it. Vogel knows this, which is why he only plays them together if both Roy and Ian are in foul trouble.

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    Bynum is working off of name reputation at this point. Honestly, I'm not sure he's an upgrade over Ian Mahinmi at this point. The guy just cannot move.
    That's the kind of info i'm looking for. Haven't seen him at all in a good while. That's why I asked if he was healthy.

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    Bynum struggled with his health as a Cav but still avg 8.4 ppg and 5.3 rpg and 1.2 bpg in 20 minutes a night. He is huge and would be a low post threat when Roy sits. This team has solid leadership I think the team unity is strong enough that Bynum would not be a locker room problem if he is you release him. Hibbert has averaged around 30 mpg this season, so Bynum getting 18-20 minutes a night fits well .

    Worth a risk he can be dropped easily if its not working
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    Pacers, I'm told, have NOT made a formal offer to Andrew Bynum. But they were among original eight teams to call Bynum's camp this week

    Sense is Pacers' interest here is more about keeping Bynum away from Miami than actually bringing Bynum in to test their treasured chemistry

    That coincides with the thread I posted before when Vogel's name was mentioned on NBA TV of the list of coaches who could keep Bynum focused. Indy was on the original list of teams all along. Doing this to keep him from Miami would be very shrewd and smart.

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    That's the kind of info i'm looking for. Haven't seen him at all in a good while. That's why I asked if he was healthy.
    He's a shadow of his former, All-Star self. With that being said, I wouldn't want the Heat to sign him. He's big and has some bulk, unlike the rest of the Heat "bigs". That alone would slow Hibbert down, even just a little, on offense.

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    It will work come playoff time. It's called time management during a grinding 82 game season. Ian's minutes went down in the playoffs by half and we didn't have Scola or Granger. Ian won't see the floor in this years playoffs, except mop up time.
    It wasn't only Ian's minutes that went down in the playoffs last year. Tyler's minutes went from 16.9 to 12.7 as well. The minutes of our whole bench went down last year with the exception of DJ Augustin and that only happened because he played well in the New York series and Hill got injured and missed a game.
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    He's a shadow of his former, All-Star self. With that being said, I wouldn't want the Heat to sign him. He's big and has some bulk, unlike the rest of the Heat "bigs". That alone would slow Hibbert down, even just a little, on offense.
    Indy has the inside track though. We're the top team in the league, in the East, and we have minutes for him. In Miami, he'll play behind Bosh and Birdman. In Indy, he'd be first after Hibbert. Ian is no threat to score or even bluff to score. Plus Bynum is bigger, so he'd clog up the lane more.

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