Lance isn't the cause of the turnover problem. That much is obvious. The cause of this problem is the increased motion that our offense has. Simply put, the sets are more complex and they involve more options and sometimes the players read their teammate's movement wrong.
Lance's turnovers are just easier for people to remember because they tend to be flashy.
Lance and Hill really compliment each other in this regard. Lance will make the tough pass that carries the risk of being stolen but that same pass can also open up the defense. Hill will make the solid pass that may not open up the defense but will carry minimal risk of being stolen. If Hill was paired with another player that wouldn't make the risky pass then our offense would become too predictable and thus become stagnant. If Lance was paired with another player that would make the risky pass then our offense would be extremely turnover prone. It's great that we have both of them and can achieve the right balance between risky and safe passing.
The thing about our Magic (Senator, I knew Magic Johnson, he was a friend of mine, sir, you are no Magic Johnson) is his BB IQ still isn't high enough to put the ball in his hands full time. He is getting better, but there are moments where his 1 on 3 fast breaks smack of grade school basketball. High risk, high reward. We need the easy baskets his style provides (which the Pacers as an organization have never really had) but not at the expense of lots of lost possessions.
And this becomes even more pronounced on the road and in the playoffs. Everyone plays with a higher intensity and turns the screwer tighter on the defensive end. Sometimes you just want to take care of the ball, run the offense and just get a shot (think Jax), not an over the head bullet from 25 feet to Ian (50-50 he catches it) under the basket for an O-My moment.
At this point, I (IMHO) do not believe we can afford to put our fate exclusively in his hands. Just keeping tuning to find the right mix, right %, the right recognition. Or by analogy, my brother was lucky to get 3 really quick kids who could handle on the the same 8th grade team. They loved to run. But until he got them to understand the concept, "if it ain't there, pull it out and run the offense" they were a high octane mess.
The real Magic knew that instinctively. Not there? Back it out, wait for Kareem, dump it in and watch the sky hook go in. Include everyone in your show. Win titles not ESPN air time (or triple double records). Plus Magic Johnson had people to run with him and more often than not, the trailer scored. Lance, not as much.
Hopefully, Lance will become so good we will have have to upgrade from Born Ready to Magic to The Second Coming.
So, what I'm saying is that Lance's ability to create and assist opens the floor up for other players to get open looks...even if Lance isn't getting the assist.
With Miami it can get tough. Augustin wasn't big enough to handle Chalmers and Cole. Hill is barely able to handle it and there pressure has gotten the best of him on occasion. Lance can hold the ball away from those clowns, see over them to pass and can drive and power through them for an And-One. They physical pressure isn't going to shut down Lance and if anything it will motivate him.
I don't know if driving and dishing is Hill's game or not. We never ask it from him and thus I don't know if he can do it or not. I'm pretty sure that our players can do more things than they are asked to (heck, Roy hit a corner 3 yesterday) but there's no reason to attempt it most of the time.
I'd also say that Hill is very beneficial to our ball movement. Take a look at this -> http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingP...&sortOrder=DES
Hill averages 55.6 passes per game which is a team high for the Pacers even though his USG% is 9th for the team (only Ian has a lower USG% out of the players that receive regular minutes). In other words, he is actively moving the ball every game.
Lance obviously helps us a lot but so does Hill. As I said, it's a nice balance between those two.
But my argument was never about the quality of the pass. You said that Hill is mediocre at moving the ball and I disagreed. I used this statistic in order to prove that Hill does indeed move the ball around.
And I will further defend my point using the following:
Total Touches per Game:
George Hill: 69.1 per game
Paul George: 71.3 per game
PG touches it more but he makes less passes. And that's perfectly normal since PG is looking to score whereas Hill looks to get everyone else involved.
Speaking of SG's, Paul is really our SG on offense and he has more assists than our PG. Lance is closer to doubling the assists. Not ripping on Hill but this talk about him moving the ball doesn't really add up.
Josh McRoberts has more assists than Hill because the Bobcats run their offense through him. We don't run our offense through Hill and that's why he doesn't have a high assist number.
Hill is asked to give the ball to our wings or dump it in the post and then spot up. That's his function in our offense. That's also exactly what CJ Watson is doing when he is in the game. That's what our system requires our PGs to do. Dump the ball in the post or to our wings and spot up.
I feel that you mistake a player's individual ability with out offensive scheme and I don't think that this is particularly fair.
Personally, I believe that it's our offense. We have incorporated a lot more PnRs in our offense this season and that's something that we really didn't do a lot in our last seasons. PnR plays can lead to higher quality shots but they can also lead to more turnovers. I believe that this explains why both our eFG% and TO% have increased.
I would rather be the hammer than the nail
I would say Lance is already more of our PG than Hill is
I also think that Vogel is doing an amazing job at building our scheme around the players.
That's exactly why Lance is asked to create and why Hill is asked to play off the ball and shoot 3s.
Lance is our best creator and Hill is probably our best 3 point shooter (he has the highest 3p% after Butler and Hibbert). That's why Hill plays off the ball. The issue is not that Hill cannot create. The issue simply is that Lance is a better creator than Hill and that Hill is better suited as a shooter anyway.
It has to do with taking advantage of each player's strength.
Here's a list about SGs -> http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...tio/order/true
Here's a list about PGs -> http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...tio/order/true
Here's a list about SFs -> http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...tio/order/true
Lance has a 13.5 TO ratio according to Hollinger's stats.
Jeremy Lin has a 15.5 ratio and he's significantly higher than Lance. Norris Cole has a 14.3 ratio and Mario Chalmers has a 14.1 ratio so we can easily say that Lance turns it over less than either of Miami's PGs.
Ricky Rubio has a 13.4 TO ratio and he is only 0.1 lower than Lance. Derrick Rose and Eric Bledsoe have a 13.3 ratio. Deron Williams is at 13.0 and even Stephen Curry himself is at 12.9.
In the SG list, we can see that rookies like Victor Oladipo, Nick Calathes and Giannis Antetokounmpo are significantly higher than Lance (15.8, 17.6 and 15.4 respectively). Same goes for veterans like Chauncey Billups and Ben Gordon even though they don't play a lot. Tony Allen has a 13.6 ratio as well. James Harden is at 13.0 and only slightly lower than Lance.
In the SF list, we can see that two prominent passing SFs are very close to Lance. I'm talking about Andre Iguodala and Nicolas Batum. Both of them are 13.2 and only slightly lower than Lance.
The TO% is beside the point. Lance Stephenson is an all-star caliber guard. He may be the best player on this team if he keeps this pace. He's already the 3rd best on the best team in the NBA.
Edit: Seriously, if I had to rank players only Paul and Roy are above him. DWest is expendable with Scola and CJ Watson could do a nice impression of Hill.