It's amazing all the ailments that winning cures...
not at all im just saying the nfl could have easily put the game on sunday to avoid any issues w the local cities
a lil goodwill between two professional sports organizations, but no one seems to give a damn about that so whatever
i was hoping the colts game woulda been blacked out w the pacers game being a sell out, send a lil message. but alas meijer stepped in and bailed the nfl out of a pr fiasco
carry on, ill be at blf for the tip im sure itll be half full until the horsies get done w their game
It's not the NFL, I believe NBC specifically chose that game to air on their Saturday time, over Cincy/Chargers. They got to choose 1 AFC game and 1 NFC game and the others air on CBS/Fox on Sunday.
"It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."
----------------- Reggie Miller
I firmly believe that the Colts ticket problems are a direct result of
A. Crazy high prices that make it pretty much unaffordable for the noise bleed seats when compared to the TV at home.
B. Families have already spent their entertainment income on Pacer games. Most people plan their sporting events a month out. Last month the Pacers were already rolling, and the Colts looked like a team that was in a downward spiral.
C. Most fans do not believe this Colts team is a real contender, thus they aren't going to shell out for high priced tickets.
You can't get champagne from a garden hose.
Most teams simply can't keep winning forever. If your players are likeable, fans will stick around during hard times. If they aren't, fans will bail. Reggie retiring had much to do with the attendance slump because no one was left for fans to hang a hat on during the rough period.
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A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...
Well, this is pretty funny. You might want to tell Peyton that he actually has two rings. They also won in 2006.
Anyway, back to reality. One run in the playoffs wasn't going to come close to fixing the mess the Pacers made during the JO era. Business people who take clients to sporting events were not going to touch the Pacers with a 10 foot poll during that era. It wasn't good business. Personally, I have been offered to go to Colts games multiple times but vendors never have mentioned the Pacers. That's because the Pacers are simply not as popular. There are only so many fans who will spend big money to go to these games and just because the Colts cannot fill their stadium does NOT mean they are less popular generally as compared to the Pacers. Even today, while I am not a Colts fan, they are still more popular with the masses.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the weather reports for cold air approaching and a major winter storm on the horizon as a potential factor too. With Colts' playoff tix at extremely high prices how many people wanted to risk buying a ticket they weren't sure if they could use due to weather?
Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.
"A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatís teamwork."
Don't underestimate how many people are Colts fans because they think they have to be.
Not many people claim to be Pacers fans without the ability to name more than three players. There are a lot of Colts fans who couldn't name a player on the team right now beyond Luck or Wayne.
These sorts of "fans" don't really care about the Colts. They just care about having something in common with their friends, families, and coworkers. These people were Pacers fans in the 90s, and they didn't know anyone on the team not named Reggie or Rik. They aren't really bandwagon fans. They are social fans. They have a sense of community with their fellow fans, but in all reality, they don't care a whole lot about their team.
Trust me, you will start to see a lot of people who are Pacers fans, but only know of Roy and PG. There is nothing wrong with that. They didn't stop being Pacers fans because we lost, they stopped becoming Pacers fans because everyone else stopped and you lost the sense of community with the Pacers.
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You can't get champagne from a garden hose.
Uhm, can you say in 49 states, its just basketball, but this is Indiana?
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Pacers game tonight is selling for about 20% above face value, colts selling for about 20% under face
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There is some truth to this. But I just have to add that, while there might be a growing stable of Pacer bandwagon fans who only know a few players, you will never see as big a bandwagon as the Colts. When the Reggie era had its run, the Pacers were very popular but not nearly like the Colts even pre-Super Bowl. You didn't see massive numbers of people wearing Pacer jerseys like you do Colts. You didn't see the massive numbers of parties held at people's houses for Pacer games. Heck, my neighbor 3 doors down has a Colts party bus he drives to the games. It's probably one of many such buses. These "Colt" fans don't really want to watch a 7 game series when they can go to a Super Bowl party and get it over with. Yes, you are right. Lots of social fans that barely understand the game of football.
Also IIRC, there was a Pacer shop at Circle Center mall, but it closed up. The Colts pro shop is still in business. It is what it is. The Colts have been and will probably always be more popular with the masses in Indy.