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    He shouldn't shy away from it. It's nice to have a player with emotion in sports, and he's right about being the best. Targeted twice in that game, and one was an interception caused by him.

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    But Reggie Miller and his choke sign back in '94 is ok??
    and Chuck Person. and Lance. love em if they're yours I guess.

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    and Chuck Person. and Lance. love em if they're yours I guess.
    I must've missed the Chuck Person one when did that happen?

    I remembered Lance did that to LeBron and we lost the series....

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    I must've missed the Chuck Person one when did that happen?

    I remembered Lance did that to LeBron and we lost the series....

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    Person never did the choke sign far as I know. I'm talking about massive shittalkers.

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    The Brady Patriots remind me a lot of the Jeter Yankees. The Jeter Yankees won 4 out of 5 championships at the beginning of his career, but then they went on a drought until 2009. They added a lot of flashy talent during that time period (A-Rod, Sheffield, Giambi, etc) and continued to win a ton of games, but they just couldn't win another ring until 09. The Brady Patriots are a perfect analogy. They won 3 out of 4 Super Bowls at the beginning of his career, but have come up short since then. They've added some flashy talent over the years (Moss, Welker, Gronk, etc) and have continued to win a ton of games, but they just haven't been able to get another ring.

    I still think that Brady will play in one more Super Bowl.

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    But Reggie Miller and his choke sign back in '94 is ok??
    that was pretty classless too, to be honest

    We accepted it because he was ours and because it was part of the long-running ongoing give-and-take between Reggie and Spike Lee. He also kept his antics to an on-court-only self-motivational sideshow.

    If Reggie had gone off in on-camera interviews to a reporter, like Sherman did to Erin Andrews (and even 15 minutes later in his media session), I tend to think that we'd all think a bit less of Reggie for it.
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    8 conference championship games in 12 years is a pretty nice stretch. Imagine if IU basketball won the Big 10 championship 11 times in 12 years, while being tied for the best record the other time, and then made it to 8 final fours in that stretch of 12 years.

    It would be just a step behind UCLA in the 1960s, even with only three banners hung. Duke once made 8 of 14 final fours, with 3 titles in that period (1987-2000).

    We (IU) can't seem to make an elite 8 these days.

    I know that there are 300 D1 basketball programs, but really only about 30-40 programs are legit title contenders even over decades of time.
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    that was pretty classless too, to be honest

    We accepted it because he was ours and because it was part of the long-running ongoing give-and-take between Reggie and Spike Lee. He also kept his antics to an on-court-only self-motivational sideshow.

    If Reggie had gone off in on-camera interviews to a reporter, like Sherman did to Erin Andrews (and even 15 minutes later in his media session), I tend to think that we'd all think a bit less of Reggie for it.
    My problem with Sherman is he has no problem talking trash when he wins, but when SEA loses he disappears off the field.

    I heard someone try to compare him to Ali this AM on the radio, and all I could do was laugh.

    Whatever, I cant wait to get back to watching football.

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    Weird to realize that the Colts were 3-0 this year against Denver, Seattle, and San Francisco. We're really close, guys. If we had stayed healthy the Super Bowl may not have been out of the question.
    I know that plenty of recent teams have won Super Bowls after winning multiple road playoff games, but having home field advantage is always going to be the most desirable path. HFA needs to be our goal next year so that we don't have to travel to Foxboro or Denver. That certainly won't be easy given Brady and Manning's record of winning, but it needs to be the goal.

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    I mean Sherman is the best CB in football. I have no problem with him talking and being cocky.
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    His 15 sec rant has made him the talk of the country today on every news outlet. Mission accomplished on his part
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    that was pretty classless too, to be honest

    We accepted it because he was ours and because it was part of the long-running ongoing give-and-take between Reggie and Spike Lee. He also kept his antics to an on-court-only self-motivational sideshow.

    If Reggie had gone off in on-camera interviews to a reporter, like Sherman did to Erin Andrews (and even 15 minutes later in his media session), I tend to think that we'd all think a bit less of Reggie for it.


    Remember his interview after the 8 in 8.9? "John Starks choked..."

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    Probably not a good idea to have it out the day before the game was played unless it was a deliberate jinx(then well played)

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    There is still time left to purchase New England’s AFC championship t-shirts. All any fan needs to do is get online, purchase an airline ticket to a third-world country and starting searching for that memorabilia.

    According to the Boston Herald, Modell’s Sporting Goods spent $500,000 to have AFC championship clothing to celebrate New England advancing to the Super Bowl in select stores. In fact, Rick Friedland tweeted a picture of a Patriots t-shirt he saw for sale at a Modell’s in New York City.

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    Spoiler alert: New England did not win.

    Leagues print gear for both teams every year (the hats and shirts the Broncos were wearing minutes after the game were printed ahead of time, obviously, and the Patriots would have had the same gear if they won), but Modell's wanted the merchandise ready for fans the moment the game ended and paid for it. Denver defeated New England, 26-16, in the championship game, leaving the department store with plenty of stuff nobody wants to buy.

    “We took a tremendous risk, but you know what? People expect us to have the merchandise,” a source told the Boston Herald prior to the game. “We printed up everything: hats, shirts, T-shirts, novelties, pennants — you name it — for men, women, kids.”
    That unsold merchandise will be donated to a third-world country.

    “We’re not allowed to sell it,” a source told the Boston Herald.
    This is probably not the charitable effort New England wants to be identified with.

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    His 15 sec rant has made him the talk of the country today on every news outlet. Mission accomplished on his part
    Yeah, he's a genius. A cornerback hasn't received this much attention since Deion Sanders back in the day. Peyton Manning just beat the Pats to go to the Super Bowl a mere two years after a vicious injury.....and it's not even the main story! Sherman definitely succeeded in grabbing attention. I'd take 10 Shermans on my team.

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    Have to admit I'm surprised it wasn't one of the Pats WAGs that did this

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    What a douche. The guy can coach his *** off, but he's still a douche. Hopefully the league sends him back a video of all the pick plays the Pats run with the title "STFU."
    If it was anyone but Welker I'd say he has a point but what about Welker screams "enforcer" especially since he's been battling concussions for a while now.

    And the Sherman thing was calculated the more I think about it which I think is a good thing for the Broncos being under the radar(well as under the radar as one can be for an SB team)

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    Denver has been running those pick plays all season, but it's not like their receivers have been injuring a ton of defenders in the process. Talib is a great player, but he just seems a bit feeble for an NFL defender. This is the second straight postseason where he's had to leave the AFC Championship Game because of injury. If getting hit high by Wes Welker takes you out, then odds are that you're going to have trouble consistently staying healthy in the NFL.

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    Welker didn't run a pick play. A pick play is where you get in the way, make the guy change his route a little, brush him, something like that. This was a cross-body block, just before the ball arrived.

    Was it offensive pass interference? Yes.
    Was it intentional play to hurt somebody? I doubt it.
    Was it just another pick play? No. You set a pick by running in a guy's way on your route, but not by initiating contact while not running a route.
    Did BB have anything to gain by even mentioning it? No way. Should have said nothing.



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    Welker veered off his line into Talib from the side. It wasn't two players running headlong into one another. Not only that, Welker was never even looking back at the QB but was looking at Talib the whole time. His role was to block Talib but IMO he made a mistake and threw the block a second early.

    So I think that BB should have indeed chosen to STFU. You can't guess intent and it's not like Welker dove for the knees.

    But it 100% it should have been called a penalty. This was a penalty on #47 running into #52 on a more typical pick play on the Patriots drive just before. Hoomanawanui ran into a guy without leaving his feet. OPI Penalty. Deserved. But a lot less egregious.



    We cannot read Welker's mind as to WHY he threw an illegal block like that. Talib’s reaction shows that, at minimum, he immediately felt that it was a dirty play.

    Clearly it was illegal, but I’d give Wes the benefit of the doubt as to his intent, mainly because he does not (to my knowledge) have that reputation, and Fox does not have a reputation for coaching crap like that. If it were a turd like Jeff Fisher we'd know for sure (Pats fans remember Fisher openly celebrating a take-out hit on Rodney Harrison, new Years eve 2006). Harrison missed all of the 2006 postseason, including the loss to the Colts in the AFCCG. http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../gamelog/post/

    Several Patriots saw Titans head coach Jeff Fisher wink and smile toward the field after the Harrison injury. Typically level-headed Tedy Bruschi flew into a rage and had to be restrained from entering the Titans bench area by teammates and by a game official.
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    Totally agree with Slick ^ Penalty for sure, but not worth complaining about really.

    I'm definitely rooting for Sherman and the Seahawks now. I love the actual honest answers in post games. Someone may be a douche in actuality, but I'd rather know that then hear some standard responses.

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    Welker didn't run a pick play. A pick play is where you get in the way, make the guy change his route a little, brush him, something like that. This was a cross-body block, just before the ball arrived.
    Sounds like the only thing that you're saying is different than a pick play and Welker's play is how hard Welker hit the defender.
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    I mean Sherman is the best CB in football. I have no problem with him talking and being cocky.
    I have no prob with Sherman. He backs it up on the field and has no off the field issues. Plus he's in the same fraternity as me, so I'm kinda biased lol
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    Sounds like the only thing that you're saying is different than a pick play and Welker's play is how hard Welker hit the defender.
    other things that I'm saying are different than a pick play:

    1) leaving your feet to throw an illegal block
    2) altering your passing route to throw that block
    3) not even pretending to be a receiver on the play

    It was not a pick play but a play in which a receiver is primed to throw a downfield block, but does so too early to be legal.

    To be honest though, if they aren't calling it then it's very smart to keep doing it. You see the exact same tactic on screen passes, when blockers starts barreling over defenders before the receiver even catches the ball. Denver did that on a couple of occasions with no OPI call, and were wise to keep doing it. The Patriots might have done the same, I don't know.
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    I don't care for Erin Andrews either but I saw nothing wrong with how she reacted to Sherman's rant

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    Screen Shot 2014-01-20 at 12.42.13 PMSo last night, while sitting in bed, I thought more and more about Richard Sherman. I hated how he behaved. Absolutely hated it. But, as I pondered the whole scenario, I kept returning to something else. An entirely separate issue.

    Namely, Erin Andrews.

    The Fox sideline reporter, who stood there as Sherman blathered away, makes a reported $800,000 annually, and has a net worth—after advertising—of $3 million. In the immediate aftermath of the Sherman outburst, I offered Andrews a slight Twitter compliment, saying she handled things pretty well. Then, I watched again. And again. Um, I was wrong.

    Erin Andrews was a deer in headlights. She did not know what to do or what to say or how to respond. Someone in the control booth clearly told her to send things away from Sherman—and she did. In short, she wasn’t to be trusted with the situation, and Fox’s heads knew it. As much as America responded negatively to Sherman, he was also—after a must-see game—must-see television. Why was he so angry? How far did this go back? Did it stem from something? Would he confront Crabtree afterward?

    Nothing.

    Good reporters—even good television sideline reporters—are trusted to interview. To probe. To dig. To report. They do so subtly, yes, and in limited doses. But they do, indeed, do so. Think Bonnie Bernstein back in the day. Think Pam Oliver at her best. Think Jim Gray.

    Andrews, however, was not signed away from ESPN (by Fox) because she’s a high-caliber reporter, or because she possesses a unique view of the game, or incredible knowledge. She was hired away from ESPN (by Fox) because guys think she’s hot.

    There is no debating this point.

    We all know it to be true. Even (I’m guessing) Erin Andrews.

    The thing is, Erin Andrews has done nothing wrong. She was born pretty, she was a college athlete, she speaks well and she likes sports. If someone wants to pay her huge amounts of money for that, well, so be it. She’s the Kardashian of televised sports—and being a Kardashian has worked out pretty well for the actual Kardashians. The problem comes when something like the Richard Sherman situation arises, and Fox’s sideline star looks overwhelmed and out of her league and lost. Bonnie Bernstein (the gold standard, in my opinion), fires right back—hard. So does Jim Gray—confrontational, edgy, oft-hated—but a guy who doesn’t digest an athlete’s nonsense with an crooked smile and a “Back to you, Troy …”

    Sigh.

    To me, it’s the crime committed by the networks against legitimate female reporters: If you’re not pretty and perky and young, you—with rare exception—have no shot. We’ve come so far in this field, as far as diversity, and, yet, not as far as one would think. Women walk the sidelines and tell us stories, but they’d better be pretty and busty enough to keep a guy’s interest, pre-Budweiser commercial. Otherwise, no thank you. Find a radio gig, m’am.

    Here’s the problem, if you’re Fox: Erin Andrews makes a ton of money for someone who’s not especially good at her job. There are now—in her wake—dozens of similarly blonde, similarly pretty, similarly perky reporters working the TV sports circuit. They’re younger than Erin Andrews, fresher than Erin Andrews, probably even more talented than Erin Andrews. Before long (if it hasn’t already happened), Fox will realize it surrendered a ton of dough for a ballplayer who did her best work at ESPN, just as ARod did his best work in Seattle. Her prime was 2008.

    See, surface beauty only travels so far before people demand something more to stay tuned. Sports fans, ultimately, want insight and professionalism and high-caliber questions. They want follow-up reporting.

    Or, sadly, they want 28 and wrinkle-free.

    Sigh.

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    other things that I'm saying are different than a pick play:

    1) leaving your feet to throw an illegal block
    2) altering your passing route to throw that block
    3) not even pretending to be a receiver on the play

    It was not a pick play but a play in which a receiver is primed to throw a downfield block, but does so too early to be legal.

    To be honest though, if they aren't calling it then it's very smart to keep doing it. You see the exact same tactic on screen passes, when blockers starts barreling over defenders before the receiver even catches the ball. Denver did that on a couple of occasions with no OPI call, and were wise to keep doing it. The Patriots might have done the same, I don't know.
    2 & 3 are applicable on pretty much every pick play as well. They don't have to alter their routes all that much, because the route is designed to go after the defender, but offensive players still change their course in order to get a piece/get in the way of the defender.

    EDIT:
    The New England Patriots lost a critical component of their defense in the second quarter Sunday when Denver wide receiver Wes Welker wiped out cornerback Aqib Talib. Though the play resulted in an incompletion, Welker easily could have drawn an offensive pass interference penalty — earlier, the Patriots were flagged for running a pick play, as TE Michael Hoomanawanui began blocking downfield before Tom Brady completed a pass attempt.
    http://nfl.si.com/2014/01/19/aqib-ta...ts-wes-welker/
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    The Hoomanawanui play was in the 3rd gif I posted earlier. Notice that "Hooman" (#47) doesn't leave his feet, doesn't stop running his route, his feet never even stop moving, he has head head up the whole time looking back at the QB, and yes he does bump chests with the linebacker. Thus it was properly called offensive pass interference.

    If you are saying it was somewhat similar to the Welker play, I'd agree. In that was pass interference, though less obvious, but it was actually called that way. The point was that the far more obvious version was not flagged at all, the defender was hurt on the play, and the injury as well as the actual non-call may have changed the outcome of the game.

    2nd and 19 at their own 9, if the penalty is called
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    3rd and 9 at their own 19

    They completed a pass to Welker on 3rd and 9, drove the field and scored a TD to go up 10-0.

    Maybe they would have done the same given 2nd-and-19, deep in their own territory, true.

    Now look at the game situation on the call on Hoomanawanui. It erased an 8 yard gain to the 25 yard line on a pass on 3rd and 10 to Collie. No call and it would have been 4th and 2, a 42 yard FG to tie the score at 3 was in order. But... with the play called (properly) it became 3rd and 20 at the 43 and a punt resulted.

    If the two plays are both no-calls, the Patriots gain 3 points (>80% certainty that Gostkowski makes a 42 yarder, at altitude).

    If the two plays are both called OPI, there's a pretty decent chance that Denver's first TD doesn't happen.

    The inability to make two calls the same way is annoying. It's not at all related to Belichick's opinion (misguided, I think) that there was intent to injure. It's just a gripe about calling obvious calls the same way.
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