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    Jermaine Oneal?


    I know his past left a stain but he's cheap, experienced, plays tough and can shoot. We could get rid of Ian and probably get a pick.
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    I like JO, he's been a warrior fighting through all the injuries and he is a good guy. He still CAN NOT stay healthy though, so no.
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    Jermaine Oneal?


    I know his past left a stain but he's cheap, experienced, plays tough and can shoot. We could get rid of Ian and probably get a pick.
    By any chance did you read the Q & A with Larry Bird?


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    I would welcome JO back in a heartbeat. I also realize I am in extreme minority.
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    In a word: No

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    Yes! I think the Nba would pay part of his salary too if that hasn't changed. And he can still play. I just never thought it possible with Bird running the show

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    By any chance did you read the Q & A with Larry Bird?
    I did. JO was a max contract player making 20+ mil/year when Larry traded him. He was the face of the franchise.

    Now he'd be a 3rd string center/PF (not reliably healthy enough to replace Ian, sorry) making what, league minimum? It's a bit of a different situation.

    I don't have a problem with JO coming back as a role player but I don't see where he'd get minutes. He'd have 2 players ahead of him at both the 4 and 5. I could see a Rasual Butler type scenario maybe but honestly I don't see why the Pacers would be interested in that from him at this point.

    Too bad he's hurt, I'm headed to the GSW/Spurs game in a little while

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    I did. JO was a max contract player making 20+ mil/year when Larry traded him. He was the face of the franchise.

    Now he'd be a 3rd string center/PF (not reliably healthy enough to replace Ian, sorry) making what, league minimum? It's a bit of a different situation.

    I don't have a problem with JO coming back as a role player but I don't see where he'd get minutes. He'd have 2 players ahead of him at both the 4 and 5. I could see a Rasual Butler type scenario maybe but honestly I don't see why the Pacers would be interested in that from him at this point.

    Too bad he's hurt, I'm headed to the GSW/Spurs game in a little while
    Strictly for more size for the playoffs. I know miami goal will be to put Roy in foul trouble plus Roy lack aggressiveness

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    Would I? Yes. (Just for size against MIA)

    Will Bird? Not in this life time....

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    I did. JO was a max contract player making 20+ mil/year when Larry traded him. He was the face of the franchise.

    Now he'd be a 3rd string center/PF (not reliably healthy enough to replace Ian, sorry) making what, league minimum? It's a bit of a different situation.

    I don't have a problem with JO coming back as a role player but I don't see where he'd get minutes. He'd have 2 players ahead of him at both the 4 and 5. I could see a Rasual Butler type scenario maybe but honestly I don't see why the Pacers would be interested in that from him at this point.

    Too bad he's hurt, I'm headed to the GSW/Spurs game in a little while
    J'O would be backup center. His per is twice Ian's. I don't see why GS would give him up though.

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    Strictly for more size for the playoffs. I know miami goal will be to put Roy in foul trouble plus Roy lack aggressiveness
    It was his aggressiveness that put him in foul trouble last night.

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    We could use him...and I was once a BIG JO fan (only Bobblehead I own)....until he whined like a little girl. But others are right that Bird would never acquire him. Bird is nothing like JO and doesn't respect him IMO. I do think Bird had to like Artest though. I don't know these things, but I believe them to be true.

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    "I think the situation you have here, you had one guy making a lot of money and everybody just took it as he's going to be leading us, and in some instances that was true. But I think more now that since it has opened you'll see a number of guys stepping up."

    Guys like Danny Granger and Mike Dunleavy Jr. are prime candidates to provide leadership in Indiana this season.

    "You can't let your ego take over," Bird said. "It can't be about you. It has to be about the team . . . whoever it is, they will follow because they've been needing it for a long time. . . . There are a few guys down there that other guys will gravitate to."

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    By any chance did you read the Q & A with Larry Bird?
    Where can i find that?

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    Where can i find that?
    http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/q-and-larry-bird-2013

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    Wut

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    Thanks I had read that, I guess I did not read as much into it.

    I just think Mark would not have ok'd picking him up if the word from the pacers was bad.

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    JO rhymes with NO .... I don't think that occurs without a reason...
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    JO is probably out for the season he just had surgery, time to close the thread.

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    Dude I laughed so hard lol

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    JO is probably out for the season he just had surgery, time to close the thread.
    Wait, what??? NO.....

    He said he would dominate the paint...

    He PROMISED...

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    Wait, what??? NO.....

    He said he would dominate the paint...

    He PROMISED...
    Well, according to himself he isn't:

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    I'm always surprised when this is asked. He had more fans than I realized. He is still a viable back up now, but not like a great one, imo. He's not on the level of Scola by any means, I don't think.

    I don't think the memories of that time are worth trudging up for what he can give you. It was the darkest time for the Pacers, not saying he's to blame, but he illicits bad feelings for me, its basically the exact opposite of when they brought DD back.

    It's not like he'd come back for a farewell tour and get huge ovations for coming back, I don't think. It's sad because I think he was great for a few years and I know he seems wistful towards Indy. He was just put in a position he wasn't equipped for on a team that imploded.

    I guess its probably an age thing, if you became a huge fan during that time period, that would be your marquee guy you identified with the franchise. For me, its the opposite, he had some great years on a team I had followed for years and is identified with huge disappointment and subsequent dark times. Different perspective.

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    I can't wait for the guy to retire, so this monthly topic can die.
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    I guess its probably an age thing, if you became a huge fan during that time period, that would be your marquee guy you identified with the franchise. For me, its the opposite, he had some great years on a team I had followed for years and is identified with huge disappointment and subsequent dark times. Different perspective.
    I am 42 years old and have followed the team since 1993 and I would welcome JO closing our his career here. I respect what he did here, I really admire him for asking to be pulled in the game he set his career high so he would not break Reggie's record in a game that had been decided. I expected to hate him, they traded DD for this kid are you kidding me! But around him they rebuilt a pretty damn good team that could have won a title were it not for meta world headcase. Maybe my memory is bad but didn't he punch those two idiots because he thought they were coming after Reggie?

    I don't care if he actually plays, he can be the 15th guy just there to cheer from the bench but I would love to see him retire as a Pacer.

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