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    Question Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    Simple question I would like to know why Vogel is not giving Scola more minutes even when he is playing well? Scola is averaging 18 minutes per game and West is averaging 30.

    I think Scola should be getting more minutes specially when he is playing well and hitting shots, Vogel should also try to cut Dwest's minutes to keep him fresh, anybody here feels the same way?

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    Simple question I would like to know why Vogel is not giving Scola more minutes even when he is playing well? Scola is averaging 18 minutes per game and West is averaging 30.

    I think Scola should be getting more minutes specially when he is playing well and hitting shots, Vogel should also try to cut Dwest's minutes to keep him fresh, anybody here feels the same way?
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    I'd like to see more of West and Scola playing together if the matchups work. Scola's too good to play less than 20.

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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

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    Frank uses the egg timer.

    I'd like to see more of West and Scola playing together if the matchups work. Scola's too good to play less than 20.
    I agree....I would much rather break it up to a consistent 28/20 split where Scola only plays backup PF minutes.

    I'm not so crazy about playing a West/Scola frontcourt....where Scola or West plays some backup C minutes. I know that we see that lineup from time to time....but I only would prefer to play that rotation when we have no choice ( where Mahinmi and Hibbert are in foul trouble...like yesterday ), based off of matchups and only when we have solid perimeter defenders that will help limit drive penetration.
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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    Gives up a lot on D and the boards.
    Offense is no better than West's.

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    Gives up a lot on D and the boards.
    Offense is no better than West's.
    Scola is grabbing as many rebounds as West in the same amount of time and is shooting a higher percentage than West.

    I'm going to give you the defense thing but I don't think he is that bad and sure Lebron made him look bad yesterday but who doesn't look bad against Lebron?

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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    Yes, and I think the season goes on, we'll see more minutes headed Scola's way to keep West fresh.

    But for goodness sakes, keep Scola and Lance on the floor at the same time as much as possible. They've got something absolutely awesome there offensively.
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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    I don't think anyone should get predetermined minutes. If Scola is hot go with him. And if West is hot go with him. Scola against Detroit. West against the Heat.

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    I don't think anyone should get predetermined minutes. If Scola is hot go with him. And if West is hot go with him. Scola against Detroit. West against the Heat.
    I don't think is about predetermined minutes but I have seen Scola on fire and Frank replacing him as soon as his time is up, it just doesn't make sense to me, I mean Scola is averaging 1 more minute of playing time than Tyler last year that is crazy.

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    when Scola and West are in together our defense has been awful.

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    I don't think is about predetermined minutes but I have seen Scola on fire and Frank replacing him as soon as his time is up, it just doesn't make sense to me, I mean Scola is averaging 1 more minute of playing time than Tyler last year that is crazy.
    Personally I would rather have West than Scola. But I want West in the spring. I think Scola should get a couple more minutes a game. I never want to see David in the entire 3rd until April.

    I think Vogel values the chemistry of the starting lineup. That is why I think Lance and Hill will stay as our back court the rest of the year. That chemistry has not helped when our offense fails to rotate the ball. So either that has to start happening more smoothly or Frank is going to have to bend on the whole starting unit stance.

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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    I really think Vogel is so hard on that stance that he didn't take Hibbert off the court like Collins was saying in the 2nd quarter.

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    Scola is grabbing as many rebounds as West in the same amount of time and is shooting a higher percentage than West.
    I would not have guessed this.

    And I also would not have guessed that Scola has more TOs per 36 than West.

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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    Scola will get more minutes when we need to rest West down the stretch.

    One of the main reasons that Scola doesn't get more minutes is that a West/Scola line-up does not work defensively. We all saw how bad our defense looked last night when both Roy and Ian were on the bench. On the other hand, Frank should probably stick with Scola in the Detroit game. He was playing great.
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    when Scola and West are in together our defense has been awful.
    True, but our offense has been really good. I'd like to try Scola with the first unit more. With Paul, Lance, and Hill out there (and maybe a tweak in the defensive scheme) I think they'd be OK. Then maybe bring Hibbert back in with the second unit to play a few minutes with Lance and Louis. Just a thought.

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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    Why Luis Scola shouldn't be getting more minutes: Because David West is a significantly better player.
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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

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    Why Luis Scola shouldn't be getting more minutes: Because David West is a significantly better player.
    Wrong.

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    I feel ok with either West or Scola on the floor. Scola to me appears to be a weaker rebounder, and a much weaker defender.
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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    I would play Scola about 2-3 extra minutes per half. West needs to be gassed up and ready for the playoffs. We don't need to rely as heavily on him in the regular season as we did last year.

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    Why Luis Scola shouldn't be getting more minutes: Because David West is a significantly better player.
    Why Luis Scola should be getting (at least a few) more minutes in the regular season: Because David West is a significantly better player and he is also 33 years old.

    You want all of the minutes you can get in the postseason from your very best players. To ensure that, some older guys like David need to have their minutes managed. Yes, Scola is older too, but nobody wants him to play as many minutes as West. Just a little more in the direction of being a 60/40 split, and yes it does potentially sacrifice regular season success to an extent.
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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    ^But this year seems to be different since we are putting so much emphasis on getting home court. we can't give any games away.

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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    Scola is playing by far the fewest minutes of his career this season. Now that's certainly very understandable to a point since the Pacers are by far the best team he's ever played on. But he played mid 20's MPG his rookie year, low 30's for the next four, and then mid 20's last year. He is currently averaging 18.5 MPG.

    I'd like to see him at about 22-23 MPG and chip off some of D West's minutes. D West is certainly the better defender, but I think that it would ultimately be a good move since all of those rested minutes would add up for D West.

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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

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    ^But this year seems to be different since we are putting so much emphasis on getting home court. we can't give any games away.
    Scola has won us some games this year I wouldn't worry about losing games because of him.

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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    How much do we want to cut down West's minutes? 30 isn't too much for him IMO. He's already playing 3mpg less than last season. I like Scola, but until we can feel comfortable with a West/Scola front court, I just don't see how taking minutes away from West is a good idea. We don't go to him enough as is.

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    Default Re: Question: Why Scola is not getting more minutes?

    Honestly, when we're playing bad teams that we should be able to handle with relative ease, I wouldn't have a problem with a 50-50 breakdown between West and Scola. But of course there are situations like last night against an elite team where you want to give West playoff-like minutes because of what he brings to the table. I don't think that we really need a rigid formula because things can change on a game to game basis, but as a whole, I'd definitely like to see more minutes for Scola. More minutes for Scola means more time for him to develop even more chemistry with our players, which could pay dividends in the playoffs.

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    I would play Scola about 2-3 extra minutes per half. West needs to be gassed up and ready for the playoffs. We don't need to rely as heavily on him in the regular season as we did last year.
    I agree with that. I feel pretty comfortable with Scola on the court and I would be ok with him receiving more minutes as long as he is on the court with Hibbert or Mahinmi. But we have to make sure that Lance is going to be on the court when Scola is out there as well. They have good chemistry together and Lance can make the most of Scola's abilities.
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